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Post by deltath on May 23, 2006 3:06:14 GMT -5
This is a question I've asked myself a few times. I tend to think that the Ys I storyline is interesting and enjoyable, though I've often wondered what reasons (other than "seeking adventure") did Adol dare to cross the Storm Barrier to reach Esteria.
I've not played Ys II, though I've played Ys on the NES and Ys I Complete and I do intend to play Ys II in the near future. So, my question is two fold. Is Adol's reason for traveling to Esteria answered in Ys II or a later Ys game? If so, then a simple yes would be great (as I don't want later plot to be spoiled). If not, then I'm curious if it's either never really explained or if I just missed something altogether in Ys I.
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Post by deltath on May 23, 2006 8:59:42 GMT -5
EDIT: Actually, you can also get a slightly more concise version of Adol's reasons for going to Esteria by running the file "OpeningOld.exe" in the Ys I Complete folder. Evidently, that was the opening to Ys I Eternal, and was left in the folder for Ys I Complete. -Tom Aye, I did notice the extra bit of info in OpeningOld, but it was mostly just that he had a "sense of adventure" or some such.
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Post by gnosis301 on May 25, 2006 21:37:53 GMT -5
Well, I imagine if there was a place where you could bump enemies off-center and get cash for it, you'd want go there too.
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Post by SkyeWelse on May 30, 2006 8:19:06 GMT -5
Well I was playing Ys Eternal yesterday and the only thing Adol really states in the game in the first town is that "he had heard that the land of Esteria was cursed" and we can see Adol sailing out to Esteria alone on a sailboat during the opening sequence. So by that I gather that Adol indeed wanted to come to the island for some reason, either it was calling to him or curiousity got the better of him after hearing legends and tales of Esteria (which is further explained a bit in the Ys anime) and he journeys out to this island to see if he could make it past the storm barrier and is actually lucky enough to make it. Either way, he is destined to come to Esteria hereby says soeth by the sage Sara. (Say that 3 times fast!)
The better question is, and I've asked myself this before, did Adol have swordsmanship experience before coming to Esteria? Is Esteria actually his first adventure or has he accomplished something great before he travelled to Esteria that boosted his confidence that he might actually make a difference. I wish someone could explain the story of Ys Strategy to us, since it is rumored that the hero of Ys Strategy, Abel (who has red hair) might be Adol's father, or ancestor of some kind. If that is true, I like the story that perhaps Adol hears a tale about this particular family member's heroic actions and based on this story, Adol takes up a sword as well to see if he is made of the same stuff of that of his past family member's accomplishments.
-SkyeWelse
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Post by FM-77AV on May 30, 2006 15:07:23 GMT -5
Read this thread. I dare to say that Abel is definitely not Adol's father*, and since Ys Strategy isn't written by Falcom, it can not be included in the Ys timeline (just like Ys IV The Dawn of Ys). *In the Ys COMPLETE opening you can see someone that you can safely assume is Adol's father, and he's certainly not red-haired.
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on May 30, 2006 17:04:59 GMT -5
Looks more like it could be his father or grandfather to me. Adol looks too young in the picture to be traveling yet.
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Post by FM-77AV on May 30, 2006 17:08:44 GMT -5
That's my point. Adol looks like a kid in there. I read somewhere that Adol's father taught him about fighting and stuff.
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Post by Vert on May 30, 2006 22:31:38 GMT -5
Didn't notice how young he looked, before... but, his hair does look kinda grey, so who knows? Maybe it WAS red, once... -Tom Maybe he just took after his mother.
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Post by laughing on Nov 2, 2006 21:58:15 GMT -5
i heard something about him being a former soldier...and setting out for adventure when he left the military.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Dec 13, 2006 10:23:37 GMT -5
Well I was in the middle of typing up a introduction for the Ys series for XyZ when I hit a snag and remembered this thread. Has anything else been discovered as to whom the gray-haired man is in the opening to Ys Eternal? I always thought of Adol as an orphaned child who was raised in Promalock without ever having known his father, playing on the mystery of why he would be considered a fated or chosen warrior destined to travel to and save Esteria. I mean if he had a father just waiting on him in Promalock, wouldn't there be stops where Adol would at least "check-in" with him to see how his family is doing? I mean afterall isn't it suggested somewhere (Ys III?) that Dogi has relatives somewhere that he keeps in touch with? I could be mistaken though. But then again, Seldane mentioned somewhere that it is believed that Adol's father taught him how to use a sword... Is there a source for this information that just needs to be translated?
Also, what exactly is Esteria anyway, an island or a peninsula?
I just wanted to try and clear this up as much as possible before moving on with the intro story.
Thanks,
-SkyeWelse
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Post by FM-77AV on Dec 13, 2006 10:38:26 GMT -5
Read this thread. It is pretty much implied that he was raised by his own parents. I think that old guy in the intro is Adol's father, as Adol himself looks like a kid in that particular part.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Dec 13, 2006 19:37:26 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for clearing that up. Knowing this helps piece the events together a bit more, though is there any mention of just how long he was staying at Promalock? Being so young around the time he first meets this "traveler" in this nameless mountain village and moving on foot and by ship to get to Promalock seems a bit out there for such a small child to accomplish by himself. It almost seems like the believable story was that he was intrigued of venturing to Promalock in hopes to uncover the mysteries of Esteria, but waited until he was older and could travel there properly at the age of 15 or 16. (the common age when most rpg lads set out for independence.) But all the shots we see of Adol during the various Ys I proglogues and introductions it leads us to believe that he's been living at Promalock for years... Unless I'm the only one who thinks this. lol
I wonder if something is missing from that story, such as the family "moving" to Promalock for some reason thus making it possible for Adol to have been living there for years until the proper RPG venturing age of 16.
Anyhow, I had not read that before Seldane... very interesting that it talks about some of his other adventures and some that we haven't even seen yet. But even more interesting is his planned death of what was it 63 years of age? Hehe, I didn't see that coming.
Thanks for pointing all of that out.
-SkyeWelse
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Post by FM-77AV on Dec 14, 2006 4:20:43 GMT -5
That Norton job part is very much canonical. It it mentioned in the Ys 1 manual (computer versions). From the looks of it, the story that is told in that book (because it IS a book) appears to be identical to that of the anime.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Dec 14, 2006 10:04:38 GMT -5
This is some great information. Thanks for providing it. This will help out a lot!
-SkyeWelse
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Post by FM-77AV on Dec 14, 2006 15:12:15 GMT -5
Probably not, but I might be able to scan this along with the covers etc, that I promised you.
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Post by LordDarm on Dec 14, 2006 18:54:02 GMT -5
In the Ys anime, as I recall, it was Adol's father who taught him about a land haunted by monsters (meaning Esteria,Ys) and that one day a hero would show up to save the land. The father also said, speaking to Adol, "That hero might even be you Adol." If I could only find the scene.....be back with more info.
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Post by Ryle on Dec 14, 2006 23:21:09 GMT -5
In the Ys anime, as I recall, it was Adol's father who taught him about a land haunted by monsters (meaning Esteria,Ys) and that one day a hero would show up to save the land. The father also said, speaking to Adol, "That hero might even be you Adol." If I could only find the scene.....be back with more info. Done! Allthough i did it with Fraps so it skips, but oddly enough ive had it up for quite some time vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=810267608
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Post by SkyeWelse on Dec 15, 2006 21:59:12 GMT -5
Wow! Even better. You know, this is such an interesting way to look at Adol's exploits when you think about it. It really makes the world of Ys seem gigantic, spanning so many different eras.
Thanks for posting this!
-SkyeWelse
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Post by FM-77AV on Dec 16, 2006 6:23:49 GMT -5
Hey, that's just the box text only slightly modified. Oh and they made "Project Ys" canonical, which is wrong.
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Dec 16, 2006 13:22:34 GMT -5
It seems they used a little of Project Ys, and mixed the two stories together.
Project Ys:
Unlike all the rest of Adol Christine's adventures, this story is not included in the volumes of diaries that Adol put together because it happened after he had completed the existing volumes. At the age of 63, adol heads for his long wished goal of unconquered North pole. However, since nobody had confirmed Adol's return from this venture, it is recorded that Adol failed to accomplish the goal. However on the contrary, Adol in fact reaches the north pole. He just doesn't return "in time". Adol discovers at the pole an entrance to another world. Every matter in that world existed as materializations of principles and spirits, and although an old man back on earth, in this world Adol returns to a young and powerful man he once was, as his spirit had always been. Through his adventures in this mysterious world, Adol discovers that he had wandered into the birthland of the goddesses of Ys. Now begins Adol's new adventure life beyond time and space....
I still love this idea, and the soundtrack for it. I wish Fukai would do an updated version of the music.
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