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Post by gnosis301 on Jan 7, 2006 12:15:30 GMT -5
Assuming there will be a remake of Ys IV, which would you prefer for the final boss theme?
A Great Ordeal
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The Final, Decisive Battle
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Post by zeomare on Jan 7, 2006 20:47:17 GMT -5
preferably both, the more great Ys music the Better.
chris
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Post by soulmancer on Jan 4, 2007 3:16:19 GMT -5
Well the first choice to me doesn't sound like it makes a very good boss track... Good music but I wouldn't use it for a boss track...
I never cared much at all for the Final Battle music... In my opinion it was the weakest final boss track out of all the Ys games... Well aside from 6.
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Post by yotaka on Jan 11, 2007 15:58:04 GMT -5
A Great Ordeal was a regular boss battle song in Dawn of Ys, I say leave it there. It just doesn't sound epic enough.
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Post by Lumi on Jan 11, 2007 21:04:02 GMT -5
The Final Battle sounds pretty mean and all, but on the same token... it's rather uh.. repetitive. If they added some additional melody to it, it might work out nicely.
A Great Ordeal never, ever caught my attention at all. ^^;
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jan 11, 2007 21:06:42 GMT -5
Whichever one Yngwie Malmsteem "inspired"
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Post by Vert on Jan 11, 2007 22:03:32 GMT -5
Whichever one Yngwie Malmsteem "inspired" The Great Ordeal is the one Falcom... pretty much out and out robbed from Malmsteen. I have a copy of the Malmsteen song and you can match the two songs up side-by-side and the resemblance is note for note.
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Post by FM-77AV on Jan 12, 2007 9:20:23 GMT -5
I love comparing the two, it is just so.... lame! They basically took the entire song and just re-recorded it.
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Post by Inochi 命 on Jan 13, 2007 4:32:24 GMT -5
Dwelling of Doom from Castlevania II on NES (if you don't know which I'm talking about, you can hear it in any mansion area) sounds a LOT like Far Beyond the Sun as well. There's a lot of proof showing that quite a few Japanese developers are inspired by Malmsteen... in more ways than one (JDK is a prime example of that!).
Still, I love listening to A Great Ordeal and Dwelling of Doom much more than Far Beyond the Sun. Especially A Great Ordeal. I can't seem to get sick of it. I'd have to totally disagree that Falcom copied it note-for-note, but yeah they are damn similar.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jan 26, 2007 18:12:42 GMT -5
The Castlevania one is a bit more explainable: Both Castlevania and Malmsteem draw inspiration from baroque styles of music. When I first heard Malmsteem, I seriously thought he was a remix artist doing Castlevania stuff.
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Post by Rogles on Feb 9, 2007 10:16:15 GMT -5
I love comparing the two, it is just so.... lame! They basically took the entire song and just re-recorded it. Oh come on now guys. Falcom DID add that one new part to the song. So it's not like it's a 100% copy. More like... 80%-90%.
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Post by Inochi 命 on Feb 9, 2007 18:05:13 GMT -5
Actually, A Great Ordeal is the best boss music in the whole series. Well, that's my opinion, of course.And Far Beyond the Sun is Malmsteen's best as well. But that changed part of A Great Ordeal before the music repeats is what helps overshadow Malmsteen's music, IMO. Then again, In Ys 1 I bet most people like Termination while I like Chase of Shadow much better.
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 9, 2007 18:13:24 GMT -5
The Ys series does not feature good boss music (except maybe Ys 2). Boss music should be threatening, not happy. A great ordeal is one of the most cheerful songs I've heard in a game.
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Post by Inochi 命 on Feb 9, 2007 18:37:26 GMT -5
Oops. I meant Tension. Ys's Boss battle music is cheerful...? ...gosh, I haven't heard Termination in a while. I think I forgot about it (AKA I'm not done Ys II complete yet).
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 9, 2007 18:37:36 GMT -5
Don't know what The Strongest Foe is, but Termination is good (as I stated earlier, sort of) but I can't think of any other good boss music in the Ys series. I'm not saying the music is bad, but I don't think it fits as boss music.
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Post by Inochi 命 on Feb 9, 2007 18:42:44 GMT -5
I like what Ys does with boss battle music than what Castlevania and a ton of other games do... repetitive, fast, sometimes annoying and/or random sounds with barely a tune to them. They give me a sense of nothing, they just make the battle feel a bit more daunting/annoying.
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 9, 2007 18:46:44 GMT -5
OH! That reminds me! The boss music in Ys 5 is great! You should listen to it, THAT's EXACTLY what boss music should sound like. Threatening, hysterical, it's perfect! Boss music shouldn't be full of cheerful melodies and guitar solos, that only makes it cheesy and completely ruins the mood.
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 9, 2007 19:07:50 GMT -5
Bad Species is the one I'm talking about (which is the main boss music in Ys 5). I don't know what the other one is.
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Post by Inochi 命 on Feb 9, 2007 19:41:25 GMT -5
I haven't heard any of Ys V's music yet... but I know you liked TP's boss battle music a lot, seldane. When playing TP I didn't notice ANY of the boss battle music, except for the one in Snowpeak (I didn't exactly like it, it was noisy and repetitive, but it really added to the boss's character). Nothing stood out. Now that I've heard it again after beating the game, all I can say for the music is that it matches their respective battles well... but I would NEVER listen to that stuff outside of the game. Its either ambient and repetitive, or noisy and repetitive. Repetitive = boring to me. Oops. I meant Tension FINAL BATTLE. So, let me say it again... most people like Final Battle the most in Ys 1, but I enjoyed Chase of Shadow more.
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 10, 2007 9:48:18 GMT -5
Did I say I liked the TP boss music? I don't remember saying that, and I don't remember that music either. I did say that I loved the music that plays right after you finish the bosses though - you know, the music that plays when Midna says where to go next. THAT's some incredible music. Zelda Majora's Mask ... that game has incredible boss music!
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