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Post by Adol.Christin on Dec 29, 2004 5:08:18 GMT -5
Swap Disk only works with japanese PS2 games, not USA. if anyone has Swap Disks that are for USA games, post it here
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Post by LordDarm on Dec 29, 2004 8:49:18 GMT -5
Sideshow has got a point......new characters, new quests, Ys timeline etc plus the game will be in English the change in characters and sprites arent bad at all.....the music is another story but the new music isnt bad anyways......I am still excited to get this game!
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Post by sideshow on Dec 29, 2004 19:35:04 GMT -5
In order to get the swap magic discs to work on the new PSTwo then you need to get the brand spankin new swap magic version 3.3 discs. I believe the old 2.0 swap magic discs have problems on newer PS2 consoles.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Dec 30, 2004 0:31:42 GMT -5
i heard swap disc harms the ps2 tray, i'm not willing to take that chance...
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Post by sideshow on Dec 30, 2004 4:12:25 GMT -5
I've had swap magic for over 2 years and my tray still works great!
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Post by Jimmy Stewart on Dec 30, 2004 9:37:05 GMT -5
If Konami wasn't alowed to use the original Ys VI music for the console port, then why is it in the demo disc?
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Post by LordDarm on Jan 1, 2005 23:02:07 GMT -5
I still cant wait to get this game!!!!
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Post by Rogles on Jan 4, 2005 12:00:45 GMT -5
This thread is hilarious. Whine, whine, whine. An Ys game comes to the States for the first time in over a decade, and all I hear is complaining. Anyhow, the new music is an orchestral arrangement that's done by Hiroyuki Nanba... and for those of you who don't know, he's fulfilled arrangement duties on a number of official Ys-related CDs in the past. So gripe all you like, but please, spare the world any comments about it just "not being Ys." Because it's not a point of debate. History and the facts show that you're just wrong. You may not like his arrangements, but it's still Ys. I mean, really. I love Ys as much as the next guy (more, most likely), but come on. Well, actually it's not an orchestral arranged soundtrack. It's an original orchestral soundtrack. It's not like "Mighty Obstacle", "Mountain Zone", and the item tune were arranged orchestral style. They were completely replaced with unrelated music. Thanks for the heads up on who did the new music for the Ys VI PS2 version. I've been trying to find that out for some time now. I liked some of Hiroyuki Nanba's symphonic arrangements from the past Ys games (like Ys III Super Arranged Version), but then again, they were arrangements of the original tracks. All I know is from what I've heard so far, I'm not too impressed. The music doesn't really stand out very much and isn't really memorable (if you have a different opinion on that, and really like the new music, that's cool). Perhaps the tracks we've heard so far are the worst of the bunch and there are many good tracks on the new soundtrack. I admit, I kinda like some of the parts of the video demo music that uses Olha's flute theme. I'm surprised they've kept that tune considering they couldn't get the rights for the original music. Anyway, like I have said before (in other posts), I will still support the game and buy it when it comes out, especially since I'd like to see more Ys games come out in North America in the future. Just venting here. Better to take out some frustration on a post than somewhere else, ya know? I'm sure you were doing the same with your reply. You're frustrated with many people complaining about the new Ys game and I understand your concern.
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Post by sideshow on Jan 5, 2005 3:53:39 GMT -5
I'm just happy that this game is coming to America. Bring it on!
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Post by Jimmy Stewart on Jan 6, 2005 7:53:40 GMT -5
I'm saying it doesn't make sense that they aren't allowed to use the orginal Ys VI music, if it's in the demo. I also say for anyone that can mod the pc version, just take the Konami translation and use it for the pc version. Seems a lot easier then translating it yourself.
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Post by Gillian Seed on Jan 6, 2005 11:03:57 GMT -5
I'm saying it doesn't make sense that they aren't allowed to use the orginal Ys VI music, if it's in the demo. I also say for anyone that can mod the pc version, just take the Konami translation and use it for the pc version. Seems a lot easier then translating it yourself. IMO it suxx. Making his own translation is far better.
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Post by Jimmy Stewart on Jan 10, 2005 1:30:16 GMT -5
Well I'm still picking it up. It's just easier to buy it for the ps2, then order it internationally through falcom. Besides if Ys VI sells, we'll get more Ys titles. I just wish the rock music was left in.
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Post by TekkamanBlade on Jan 17, 2005 12:54:47 GMT -5
This news is truly sad, but it's not Konami's fault. Konami bought the rights to Falcom's Ys series, but the Ys series itself and the JDK Band music are two separate copyrights. Because Falcom was unwilling to work out a deal allowing Konami to purchase rights for the games and the music, Konami had to settle only for the game and make new music for it. If you're going to blame someone, blame Falcom for being unreasonable.
I'm grateful that Konami is even trying to bring a series that has been exclusively in Japan for 13 years back to the US. Changed music and altered graphics aside, it's a really great idea. If this game is a hit in the US, it just might be enough to jump start the series over here. Perhaps then Konami will purchase the music once they know they have a success on their hands.
Now let's assume that Ys VI is going to be a total financial disaster, which is quite possible in the wake of games like Resident Evil 4 and upcomming titles like Dynasty Warrriors 5. It would've been pretty stupid for Konami to buy rights to both Ys and JDK's music just to release a game that sold abysmally.
I know some of you are pissed, but I understand Konami's plight, and I'm still grateful that they're even giving Ys a shot when no one else would.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Jan 17, 2005 16:36:12 GMT -5
I totally agree. I haven't even heard, look and played YsVI so, Konami's port shouldn't be as bad as some people make of it.
Of course, we all want the "original" but sometimes you can't have it all.
If it's successful, maybe Falcom and JDK would be nice enough to do one of those "Limited Edition" release thing... (or not)...
But I'm happy it's coming... now, if only they did that for Ys: Eternal Story! :\
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Post by TekkamanBlade on Jan 18, 2005 1:50:07 GMT -5
Now that I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind if Konami changed the music in that at all. I didn't like Eternal Story's soundtrack (at least not the PS2 version). It was weak in all the areas that the Turbo CD's music was strong. Overall, I think the Turbo CD version of Ys I & II's soundtrack is the best out of the series.
Let's not forget which company is publishing this game. Konami is responsible for the only soundtrack that can be held on the same level as Ys Book I & II; Dracula X.
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Post by FM-77AV on Jan 18, 2005 6:23:21 GMT -5
Well I'm still picking it up. It's just easier to buy it for the ps2, then order it internationally through falcom. Besides if Ys VI sells, we'll get more Ys titles. I just wish the rock music was left in. Rock music? What rock music? The original soundtrack of Ys VI is basically techno. Well, at least there are several techno tracks in there. (Kishgal, final battle, etc etc). There's also the typical "video game music". There's one rock song (more or less) and that's the boss music - Mighty obstacle, which is highly overrated, in my opinion. All in all, though, the Ys VI soundtrack is good, maybe even in the top three Ys music list (if there is such a thing), what I mean is, it might be one of the best sounding Ys games .... so far. What you mean is, sometimes you can only have it all, right? I mean, YsVI for PC is $29.99 in some import store (can't remember which) - but it's the Chinese version, so any possible translations will probably not work with that one.
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Post by Rogles on Jan 18, 2005 13:20:26 GMT -5
I concur. Why don't you guys give Konami a chance? We are. Don't worry, I believe most of us have said we will still get the game anyway.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Jan 18, 2005 16:30:29 GMT -5
What you mean is, sometimes you can only have it all, right? I mean, YsVI for PC is $29.99 in some import store (can't remember which) - but it's the Chinese version, so any possible translations will probably not work with that one. I mean, you can't have ps2, original music, north american release AND english all in one disk... sure, there's translation patch... but to have it in the original state without downloading 3rd party things. (no offence because you guys are doing a great job with the translation!)
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Post by Adol.Christin on Jan 18, 2005 17:00:55 GMT -5
Well my biggest problem is that, I live in europe so when I want Ys VI for PS2 I need to get a modded PS2 and import Ys VI. so that would be very expencive and if it has the music we heard in the last demo's I'm not gonna do it. If it comes to Europe (and the chances to tha are very slim, euorpe sucks) then I'll buy it ofcourse...I might buy it for PSP since the PSP is region free
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Post by Jimmy Stewart on Jan 18, 2005 19:33:40 GMT -5
Rock music? What rock music? The original soundtrack of Ys VI is basically techno. Well, at least there are several techno tracks in there. (Kishgal, final battle, etc etc). There's also the typical "video game music". There's one rock song (more or less) and that's the boss music - Mighty obstacle, which is highly overrated, in my opinion. All in all, though, the Ys VI soundtrack is good, maybe even in the top three Ys music list (if there is such a thing), what I mean is, it might be one of the best sounding Ys games .... so far. Yeah that's nice. It shouldn't of been changed regardless.
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