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Post by Neo Kaiser on Dec 30, 2006 19:17:08 GMT -5
It seems that Falcom is using backgrounds events that have nothing to do with the game story to create confusion and ex peculation or maybe they are trying to relate this game to another future Ys game that will probably be Ys VII. I'm talking about the Eye inside a glass container in the Ruins of Amnesia just behind Alma's Sanctuary. The ruins by themselves appear to be some kind of bio-mechanical lab or factory. The statues by themselves look like a mechanical golem army of some kind. Why such horrible place is close to Alma's Sanctuary and more importantly why this gruesome eye is doing there? What the hell is that eye and why it was also presented on the anime intro? Is this a Galba's Beast Embryo? Is this a evil being that will appear in other Ys games as Neo Galbalan or something? Galbalan also was represented by a huge eye and it also have a huge eye that served as he's core. I don't think that this is pure coincidence. I know that only Falcom have the answers but...
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Post by Vert on Dec 31, 2006 1:32:00 GMT -5
It's a Galbalan, plain and simple. I'm guessing the Eldeenians... weren't as peaceful as they'd like to make themselves appear. Or, at the very least, were prepared for the worst. When they went missing, their creations started wrecking havoc. Maybe. I'm guessing the translated Felghana patch will help bring things together better.
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Dec 31, 2006 1:44:27 GMT -5
So the Ruins of Amnesia could be a Galba factory and Perhaps Galbalan was created in that factory. The funny thing is that Adol and everyone who got to Alma sanctuary din't pay any attention to that eye. Maybe they said "Oh look what a cute eyeball" "Oh it is just a ordinary monster" I think that Adol was stupid to let that thing live. What if the Romun empire got their hands on it? Some time Falcom don't give to much intelligence to their characters on their story. Lucky for them it is incomplete and without a body.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Dec 31, 2006 2:07:19 GMT -5
At the same time, setting it free might have been a very foolish thing indeed. For instance, who knows what the tube might contain in the way of preservative/generative fluids or gases for that eye thing? Be a shame to break it open, only to suffocate on some sort of gas that is quite harmless to it, but poisonous to more natural creatures.
Alternately: What if it were intelligent and non-hostile? Or even friendly?
Given, I fully expected it to be an optional boss.
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Post by Ranzor on Dec 31, 2006 7:00:33 GMT -5
Yeah, they did it too in Ys I&II Complete.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Dec 31, 2006 12:04:29 GMT -5
Yeah, that eye-thing also made me wonder what it was. While I was playing Ys VI for the first time and I saw that Eye I said to myself "Nah, I'm sure it will be explained later in the game.".
After I finished the game, I fastly thought "So...wtf was that Eye?! o.O"
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Post by gnosis301 on Dec 31, 2006 15:45:08 GMT -5
At the same time, setting it free might have been a very foolish thing indeed. For instance, who knows what the tube might contain in the way of preservative/generative fluids or gases for that eye thing? Be a shame to break it open, only to suffocate on some sort of gas that is quite harmless to it, but poisonous to more natural creatures. Alternately: What if it were intelligent and non-hostile? Or even friendly? Given, I fully expected it to be an optional boss. Well, if the first boss in VI was an indication, I'd think that they initially possess an animal-like intelligence. Assuming they are the "wandering calamities" that the Rhedans (no time to check spelling) fight occasionally, then I don't think they're non-hostile. I'd like to think that they were more prototypes, and the Galbalan from III was an updated version.
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Dec 31, 2006 18:36:09 GMT -5
At the same time, setting it free might have been a very foolish thing indeed. For instance, who knows what the tube might contain in the way of preservative/generative fluids or gases for that eye thing? Be a shame to break it open, only to suffocate on some sort of gas that is quite harmless to it, but poisonous to more natural creatures. Alternately: What if it were intelligent and non-hostile? Or even friendly? Given, I fully expected it to be an optional boss. You have a good point! "Never mess with those things that you can't understand." But that eye looks a little bit evil. Galbalan was evil without a reason and maybe this is evil as well.
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Post by Mejilan on Dec 31, 2006 18:56:58 GMT -5
Actually, in YsF EN, Galbalan does have a few things to say, and he does mentioned the Ark briefly.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jan 1, 2007 6:09:20 GMT -5
Actually, in YsF EN, Galbalan does have a few things to say, and he does mentioned the Ark briefly. Does he now? That's not something I've heard up til now. I have another reason to want a translation patch for YsF!
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Jan 1, 2007 13:51:45 GMT -5
If Galbalan came from the Canaan islands then it is most likely that the eye in the glass could be another one. The other glass containers where broken except that one with the eye.
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Post by Mejilan on Jan 1, 2007 15:09:28 GMT -5
He does. Lemme boot up the game and see what exactly he says before the final fight.
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Post by Mejilan on Jan 1, 2007 15:19:00 GMT -5
END-GAME SPOILERS: OK, Galbalan's chamber is called The Black Throne. Blah blah blah Key to revival. Blah blah blah Elena. Galbalan stirs. "G-Ge... nos... Who... sealed me away... with that sword... Those... with wings... Will des... troy winged men... Will... reclaim... black ark... Those... who... made me... Who... controlled me... Kill... humans... Leave... none... alive... Blah blah blah Chester. FIGHT! *Note, I may have screwed up some of the '...' placements. There were a ton, and the text scrolls quickly. Still, you get the point. Some clear Ys VI references there. Assuming Nightwolve and Deuce didn't pull this from out there asses (highly unlikely) and that it's a fair translation (quite likely)...
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Jan 1, 2007 19:04:23 GMT -5
So at least we know the name of a villain that will appear on the next Ys games. Genos huh?
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Jan 1, 2007 22:37:54 GMT -5
Forget it I misunderstood! Genos was not a villain but a hero who sealed Galbalan away in a isolated island, He is Elena and Chester ancestor. Now it seems that there are another type of winged race....Maybe the Edians where evil....or they had enemies with wings....
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Post by Mejilan on Jan 2, 2007 0:16:05 GMT -5
Descendants of Genos (IIRC) is the name of a bonus song that came with one of the YsF bonus discs (Pre-Arrange album?). The song wasn't used in the actual game, unfortunately.
Yes, these Descendants of Genos are in fact Elena and Chester, though Adol winds up proving himself more worthy than they, sadly.
As to the winged race, considering that Galbalan mentions them together with the black ark (of napishtim), I doubt they represent another race, but the same race discussed in Ys6.
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Post by gnosis301 on Jan 2, 2007 0:35:17 GMT -5
I don't think the Eldeen were good or evil as a race. However, power tends to corrupt. If the Eldeens had the power to alter the weather on a planetary scale, I can only imagine their society's full capabilities.
The two things that bother me are:
Has Falcom ever said anything about Feena and Lair being Eldeen?
How old is the Eldeen civilization compared to that of Ys and its contemporaries and when did the Eldeen civilization die out?
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Post by Mejilan on Jan 2, 2007 0:50:30 GMT -5
As to the Eldeen being good or evil, I'm sure that would come down to an individual level, not a race-wide one.
I couldn't tell you the details, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Lair and Feena were in fact Eldeen. Too many coincidences otherwise, no?
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Post by Neo Kaiser on Jan 2, 2007 1:36:12 GMT -5
But one person from the Eldeen race try to commit genocide on the human race by using Galbalan. I wonder if Eldeel have something to do with this.
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Post by Mejilan on Jan 2, 2007 2:05:02 GMT -5
I don't know. Was Galbalan's escape ever explained? YsF only mentions that he comes from beyond the seas, and doesn't discuss who sent him or why. Perhaps he just was an experiment that ran out of control?
I don't remember enough of Ys6's story to know if this was ever even hinted at there.
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