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Post by liquidpolicenaut on Jun 21, 2009 18:35:53 GMT -5
I mean, I'm looking forward to the game itself and it'll be nice to play as Adol once again and seeing Dogi brought a smile to my face....but I just don't like the artwork, specifically the character art for Adol and Dogi. Adol's face looks a little too feminine for me....and why does Dogi have such a square jaw?!?!? Is it his jaw that now does the wall-crushing for him?! I know I'll probably be beaten down for this view....but its still my view....and, regardless, I'm looking forward to the game
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 21, 2009 18:43:18 GMT -5
Well, before all else, you have to specify WHICH artwork style you're talking about. xD You do know there are 2 different styles that were presented so far, don't you? The first, more stereotyped one, is kind of too "normal". The second one is really good to me. xD I liked that "wall-crushing jaw" of Dogi's, as you put it. xD And Adol does look mature to me, and I can't see him as being with a feminine look... at all. Still, it's not like we will ban you or anything for not liking. xD lol (Not more banned than nunuu and I are, at least. )
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Post by liquidpolicenaut on Jun 21, 2009 19:00:46 GMT -5
Well, before all else, you have to specify WHICH artwork style you're talking about. xD You do know there are 2 different styles that were presented so far, don't you? The first, more stereotyped one, is kind of too "normal". The second one is really good to me. xD I liked that "wall-crushing jaw" of Dogi's, as you put it. xD And Adol does look mature to me, and I can't see him as being with a feminine look... at all. Still, it's not like we will ban you or anything for not liking. xD lol (Not more banned than nunuu and I are, at least. ) I guess it would be the second style since thats the current and final one, correct? The artwork thats in the "Ys SEVEN" thread here and the ones currently on the official site. On the official site, I think I hate Dogi's jaw even more! lol I also just don't like Adol's nose in those pics....although the rest of his look does look more mature (I said feminine in haste I guess. The pics in the Ys SEVEN thread just make his face too child-like for his age)...
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 21, 2009 19:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the second one alright. xD
Well, I do think it's a bit strange for you not to like it in particular, but it's only a mere matter os tastes, too. xD
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Post by liquidpolicenaut on Jun 21, 2009 19:20:42 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the second one alright. xD Well, I do think it's a bit strange for you not to like it in particular, but it's only a mere matter os tastes, too. xD 'Tis true...'tis true. At least we can agree that we ARE looking forward to the game, right?
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 21, 2009 19:37:31 GMT -5
Yeah, of course. xD I don't care about the artwork that much, anyway.
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Post by Incog Neato on Jun 22, 2009 15:56:07 GMT -5
I wanna see Nomura do Ys character designs. I wonder how many belts and zippers he can put onto Adol's armor?
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Post by Yakra on Jun 22, 2009 17:25:02 GMT -5
I wanna see Nomura do Ys character designs. I wonder how many belts and zippers he can put onto Adol's armor? ...This statement is putting very odd visions in me mind. ... VERY odd. X'D Hm~! I feel like making Nomura-esque Adols!!!!!!! And I like Dogi's square jaw, by the way!
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Post by Ashurei on Jun 22, 2009 18:56:23 GMT -5
I'm quite fond of this art, personally. I've seen everything but that of 4 and 5 so far, and I'd have to say Katsumi's depictions of Adol & the gang are my favorite! I wouldn't say Adol looks feminine at all, myself; rather, he looks very mature! That's part of why I like it so much I think... I like those older dudes in RPGs, playing as a crew of teenagers can get old. Fact: Auron was a badass dude in his 30s. Adol looks like a badass dudes in his 30s (or nearing them, at least) now. I really like his art for Tia, too. She's quite cute.
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Post by liquidpolicenaut on Jun 22, 2009 20:08:26 GMT -5
I'm quite fond of this art, personally. I've seen everything but that of 4 and 5 so far, and I'd have to say Katsumi's depictions of Adol & the gang are my favorite! I wouldn't say Adol looks feminine at all, myself; rather, he looks very mature! That's part of why I like it so much I think... I like those older dudes in RPGs, playing as a crew of teenagers can get old. Fact: Auron was a badass dude in his 30s. Adol looks like a badass dudes in his 30s (or nearing them, at least) now. I really like his art for Tia, too. She's quite cute. I actually like the other character portraits but...I still dont like that shot of Adol (or Dogi and his wall-crushing jaw) on the Ys Seven website. Im all for older characters (it is true that it gets tedious playing teenage or younger heroes...especially now since a few get a little too emo for my tastes) and while Adol does look more mature, I just dont think his nose looks right on him. I still feel the nose is a bit too feminine and it just distracts me everytime I see him on the site! lol. Are there any other portraits of him to see if he looks the same in all of them?
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Post by Adol on Jun 23, 2009 3:08:06 GMT -5
I like the artwork on the site. The other junk that's floating around, less so.
In the end it's just pretty concept art, though. The game graphics are some Animal Crossing looking garbage. They're sub playstation. That crap is just unacceptable to me.
I really don't want to believe that we're headed for an era of gaming where the only mainstream console games are gonna be "SUPER BADASS ADRENALINE McSHOOTER GAME BROUGHT TO YOU BY MONSTER BE A FUCKING BADASS WITH MONSTER GLUGLUG AGGGGHHH!!!!" and all the good ideas, like a new Ys game or a remake of Final Fantasy 4, or a new 2d Castlevania game will get relegated to garbage systems with no potential and no future.
Best two games made lately have been Megaman 9 and Bionic Commando: Rearmed. Case in point; Rearmed actually out sold and out performed the next gen remake amongst critics. So what if you can't convince Sony to stick a 2d Ys game on a blu ray disc? Make that bitch and sell it on the PSN as a downloadable game.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jun 23, 2009 4:10:10 GMT -5
Hmmm... but I wouldn't say that VII's the best ever just because of its graphics. That'd be madness. Its graphics are outdated crap! I would say that the story of VII (and its spinoffs) would be it... and even then, if all those games were just a series of movies or something, I'd be happy enough with that. I really loved the Motorcycle Chase minigame, though. ...*gets shot for fanboyism* Anyway, what am I missing here? I like Ys Seven's artwork and the graphics are fine. Sure we don't have the beautiful sprites that we're used to, but hell with 'em! Graphics aren't what makes Falcom who they are -- FALCOM!!! You know, the KINGS of ARPGs, etc.? ...*gets shot for BLATANT fanboyism*
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jun 23, 2009 8:42:35 GMT -5
Yep, wyrd's exactly right on about how I feel about FFVII. How anyone finishes my sentences when I'm drunk, I'll never know.
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Post by liquidpolicenaut on Jun 23, 2009 10:23:00 GMT -5
I'll just state that I was referring to the character artwork only. The in-game grpahics themselves, however, is still a mixed bag for me. I'm in the consensus of "wait-and-see" as seeing the game in motion will really tell us fully what it's like. It makes seeing the first trailer for the game even more enticing, huh? As for FF VII, I think it definitely is one of the most overrated games....but still a good game nonetheless. I remember playing it when it first came out and even then I didnt like the crappy 3d-pseudo SD characters during the world map and then change to normal dimensions in battle sequences (although the battle screen characters and the CG were nice). I dont know though...I guess I DO believe that what makes a game classic is not having the flashiest graphics but an engaging storyline and memorable characters. I always felt as long as it has "good" graphics and music, its ok for me...
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Post by fireinthehole on Jun 23, 2009 11:11:23 GMT -5
As for FF VII, I think it definitely is one of the most overrated games....but still a good game nonetheless. I am not sure if we can still consider it overrated when half the people in gaming communities start bashing FF VII as soon as it is even mentioned. To illustrate, there was this one time in youtube when someone posted FF VII: One Winged Angel as his/her fake favorite battle theme (his/her real favorite theme was Persona 3's final boss theme, BTW) and people who only watched the fake part instantly accused him/her of being a FF VII fanboy/fangirl. Jeez. Anyhow, back on the topic, I actually think Ys VII's Adol looks considerably meaner (and more badass) than the previous incarnations. I love it! The ones that I do not like are Maya, Xisa, and Yue. Maya and the three homunculi look like children with adult faces. Sera, I can understand since she is the level-headed one of the three homunculi. But I sure wish the other three don't act too cute with those faces.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 23, 2009 11:18:04 GMT -5
Yes, graphics alone are nothing. Framerate, number of animations per given quantities of frames etc. are much more important, "graphic-wise". Of course this is just an extreme example, but what good is a game with gorgeous graphics working in, like, 10 FPS? Why is Kingdom Hearts' "graphical stuff" better than Kingdom Hearts 2's, for example? When seen still, they are the same, perhaps KH2's even better... but in ACTION, KH2 is pure (SE) crap... when compared to KH's, I mean. Smoother animation, maybe greater frame too (not sure). Ys SEVEN is going to kick ass. And look much more beautiful than any PS1 game. (As if any PS1 game ever had good graphics. 3D ones, at least. Unless you count CG cutscenes. lol) I'm only waiting to see how smooth the game plays and is animated etc.. On that regard, which undeniably matters the most, visually, I can't talk about for now, nor anyone else, of course. About the gameplay,... an absolutely perfect example regarding how much more important the gameplay is over graphics, including animation etc., is: compare Super Smash Bros. Melee with Super Smash Bros. Brawl AKA the series' black sheep in gameplay. =P (Of course, the greatness of one's understanding about this very comparison directly depends of one's knowledge in both games, though. ' Which has to be deep.)
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 23, 2009 11:26:58 GMT -5
I'd like to see the Yakra take on the Nomura take on the Ys art style. It would be... interesting. -Tom
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jun 23, 2009 14:04:23 GMT -5
Falcom? THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAA!!!
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Post by Adol on Jun 23, 2009 18:08:02 GMT -5
Falcom? THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAA!!! Farcom? THIS. IS. SUPARUTAAAAAA!!
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Post by Ranzor on Jun 23, 2009 18:37:42 GMT -5
Hey Red, which is better, Melee or Brawl?
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