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Post by aaronlambert on Nov 5, 2009 19:58:34 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about playing this again for the PC but last time I played I got stuck in the ruins, do you absolutely have to do the dash jump to get further?? If so I don't even know if I want to play again...
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Post by Justin on Nov 5, 2009 21:02:36 GMT -5
Just get a decent PC controller, and practice for like 3 minutes. I never had a problem with the dash jump... its 2 button presses
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Post by Incog Neato on Nov 5, 2009 21:13:30 GMT -5
It's all a controller thing! Really!
I can do the dash jump non-stop with the keyboard with little or no problems getting to those optional places but with my stupid Dual Shock 2 controllers (one with buttons 5 and 7 that are permanently down according to Windows and the other has a semi-responsive X key), it's pretty difficult to get it down. >:(
Ugh. Forgot about the Tablas in the Ruins of Amnesia (which is the double dash-jump part wyrd is talking about, I believe). Oh, that one is gonna be fun to get.
I think it's time for me to get back into controlling Adol with the keyboard! :3
Edit: Oh wait, I think the 2 dash-jump bit was in the section with the broken platforms and the one stinking pillar in the middle. Screw you, Capla Water! I'm not going after you this time!
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Post by Justin on Nov 5, 2009 21:44:45 GMT -5
I use one of those official Sega Saturn PC controllers, which I can't recommend enough btw. I can't remember having a problem when I was playing the PS2 version as well.
Really? You need to sit down with Marvel VS Capcom for like a months straight. Strengthen those hands, quicken those reflexes, and you better do with with a headband on too!!
To The MAX!
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Post by Justin on Nov 5, 2009 22:11:03 GMT -5
Very understandable, but to someone who enjoys the genre, the Dash Jump technique was a really nice addition to Ys VI.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 6, 2009 19:07:34 GMT -5
One doesn't have to necessarily enjoy fighting games to enjoy the feature, though. xD
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Post by aaronlambert on Nov 6, 2009 19:58:05 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to start playing Ys VI again, I got pretty bored with Ys V not knowing what's going on etc...
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Post by aaronlambert on Nov 8, 2009 13:42:37 GMT -5
It says in the walkthrough that you have to dash jump to keep going, I'm to understand that you tap in the direction you want to go in and press attack and jump at the same time? That never works for me!? This sucks! How can you guys say it's so easy?
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Post by Incog Neato on Nov 8, 2009 15:22:50 GMT -5
You know what's weird? When I do a dash jump, I do slowly and it still works!
It's like hit direction key (since I'm using keyboard when I do it).
Pause for maybe 1.5 to 2 seconds.
And then hit Z and X together and off Adol goes!
Of course, this only works when I'm not panicking and being attacked by monsters. :P Because when THAT happens, I freak out and don't time it properly. :E
So basically, the slow method works well in the area with all the broken platforms and pillars in the Ruins of Amnesia. XD
Oh, and wyrd is correct. Unless you want EVERYTHING in the dungeon, you DON'T need to dash jump at all.
This is coming from someone that just spent oodles of time in that dungeon. XD
I should post my walkthrough for it so everyone can head-desk at its lameness. XD
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Post by Ranzor on Nov 8, 2009 17:14:16 GMT -5
Yeah, that's right, dash jump is completely optional, you don't have to do it once to beat the game.
As for performing the dash jump, it's easy once you get the hang of it. Just start mastering the dash attack: tap forward, wait half a second then press the attack button. Once you get the timing right, you can dash jump just as easily.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 9, 2009 10:22:26 GMT -5
"Practice makes it perfect."
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Post by Mutagene on Nov 9, 2009 23:41:36 GMT -5
Of course, this only works when I'm not panicking and being attacked by monsters. :P Because when THAT happens, I freak out and don't time it properly. :E I'm like that with every game. x3
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Post by Justin on Nov 14, 2009 4:10:18 GMT -5
Perhaps some time spent with games such as Devil May Cry 3, or God of War may help. Success in those games is all about reactionary timing, and if you mess up in blocking, your dead. I'm telling you, they are great games for speeding up brain>finger>button times.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 5:27:30 GMT -5
And as odd as it may be, Ouendan helps a lot, too.
Oh, and definitely Super Smash Bros. Melee if you're going pro. xD
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 13:31:35 GMT -5
Well, the reason I brought up Ouendan is because it's the only musical game I played for real. xD
And Smash Bros. (the series in general, which is what I think you were referring to?)... well, I guess it depends, and vary from person to person. For example, it can get boring if you always play it alone. Back in the day I used to play it with my cousin everyday for years. Kinda. Then I entered the competitive Smash scene in 2006 and left it at 2008. (But ever since, I still show up at some events people invite me for to have some fun with some veteran buddies.)
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 17:52:57 GMT -5
Indeed! xD
But I have to wonder,... I bet you didn't play with Items Off. Those reduce the luck factor a lot. Also, Brawl also sucks ALSO (xD) because of absurdly increased luck factor, which this time cannot be removed.
But aside Brawl, you have all the means to get the luck factor off the games. Not in an ABSOLUTE way, but certainly all the luck there is in practicality. Especially in the original N64 Smash Bros..
Anyway, nice, I didn't know that about you. xD
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 18:07:44 GMT -5
That's the thing, though: those are not random (at least in Melee; not sure about 64). They will ALWAYS appear at exactly the same time after the battle in the stage starts. You can do so much with those, even. xD
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 19:46:56 GMT -5
Final Destination, man. xD
Also, in tournaments, there are stages that are always banned. Which ones, though, depends on the championship in question. In SSBM in Japan, for example, they only allow Final Destination and Dream Land 64. While in most US tournaments you can choose many other stages as well. There's also a "mixed rule set", which is like the japanese one, but it adds Pokémon Stadium to it, which has only very light "obstacles". Etc..
You have the liberty to play the game in whatever way you wish. xD
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Post by Incog Neato on Nov 14, 2009 19:53:52 GMT -5
Final Destination, man. xD
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 14, 2009 21:52:01 GMT -5
Yup, I was waiting for someone to post that video again. xD
However, it does not illustrate things as how they exactly are. xD The competitive SSBM scene is NOT ignorant like what the video shows. But it certainly satirizes it really well. XD
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