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Post by Aveyn Knight on Jan 21, 2010 16:08:11 GMT -5
Does anybody know where I can find a decent sized image of the Ys world map, like the one you can find on the back of Ys 6's box (with great place names such as Britai, Eulope(?) and Romn)?
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Post by Este on Jan 21, 2010 19:35:45 GMT -5
I like how there's only one alp. That map makes me think they have plenty of idea for games in the future... I recall the Ys eternal loading screen say something in particular about the Tigres river. I'd personally like to see one take place at the heart of the Romun empire.
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Post by Lunar on Jan 22, 2010 1:01:28 GMT -5
I like how Puerto Rico is an eternal whirlpool in the Ys world
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Post by Ashurei on Jan 22, 2010 3:47:42 GMT -5
That's a wee bit far north for Puerto Rico, no? I like how everything not related to Europe is clouded over "Here be Dragons"-style. I also have to admit, I just like saying Here be Dragons~! and that was the sole purpose of this post, haha.
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Post by Este on Jan 22, 2010 3:57:23 GMT -5
I think that depends on how big the Atlas Ocean is in the world of Ys. I know it's based pretty heavily on actual land formations, but say the Atlas Ocean is bigger than our Atlantic, then maybe Canaan is more in the middle of the ocean. If it's proportional to the real world, then yeah, Puerto Rico is F'd.
I think the map is a little misleading, those aren't land formations to the left side of the map, but rather clouds (I guess representing unexplored territory). The first few times I looked at the map I thought that was supposed to be the Ys equivalent of North America.
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Post by jtb on Jan 22, 2010 11:39:52 GMT -5
Has Falcom stated or hinted as to the location of Felghana? Northern Italy? Fergana in Eastern Uzbekistan?
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jan 22, 2010 12:27:49 GMT -5
Well, Dogi was an orphan who lived in Felghana during his childhood, but I don't think it was ever stated he was born there, directly or indirectly.
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Post by Este on Jan 22, 2010 15:06:20 GMT -5
That Ys Eternal loading screen seems to indicate Adol is from the Ural Mountains. That'd make him Russian too!
Edit: Or indignous Ural/Siberian folk.
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Post by Aveyn Knight on Jan 22, 2010 16:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by edelritter on Jan 22, 2010 20:02:53 GMT -5
Hold on...Ferghana / Felghana couldn't be in Uzbekistan. Judging from the map, the Romun Empire's borders are outlined, and they seem to be fairly accurate, since you can see Celceta / Selceta / Crazy forest land of doom on the border with Ispani. Now, since Felghana has a Romun Lord (McGuire / McGaya / I want official romanization ;- , it would have to be within its borders, wouldn't it? Or at least, that's my theory.
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Post by Este on Jan 22, 2010 22:50:11 GMT -5
That's an interesting point there. Not sure why, but I always assumed it was somewhere around central europa, I guess on the coast. The only thing is, the names are taken pretty blatantly from actual cities/regions, so presumabley it's no exception. I wonder if there are there any other Felghana-like names in the real world.
At any rate, welcome to the boards! Very insightful first post!
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Post by edelritter on Jan 23, 2010 12:06:35 GMT -5
Thank you . And, that's a good point. Ferghana could totally be an occupied area or recently conquered region, looking back at how the people of Redmont didn't really like McGuire in OiF. I guess that could be due to...uh...other spoilerific reasons too. Again, thanks for the welcome.
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Post by kaeldarkblade on Nov 12, 2010 13:09:07 GMT -5
Hmm soz for ressurecting an old topic, but it kinda makes me wonder, what actual time they are basing Ys world, cos i kinda see it as ancient europe... pretty obviously romun is Rome, the boreders are pretty close to the real ones... and like Altago seems to be Carthage. So like in the storyline its mean that altago and romun had been in war pretty recently, dont remember the years. Which thou would be it around second half EU years 200 B.C (well in reality Carthage lost one war after another with Rome tho ). Hmm... and well again back in that time Rome wasnt that big eheh.
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Post by yotaka on Nov 12, 2010 13:36:20 GMT -5
The war between the Romuns and Altagans literally just ended before Seven started. That's why Adol and Dogi decided to go there. As for timing, don't think about it or the geography too hard or your head will explode.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Nov 15, 2010 10:31:21 GMT -5
a little ancient history factoid...
Rome and Carthage was at war from 264 BC to 164 BC also known as the Punic Wars... there were actually 3 phases of the Punic War 264 to 241 BC, 218 B.C. to 201 B.C., and the last one 149 B.C. to 146 B.C. in which Carthage was destroyed so bad that it never recovered as a city.
The Roman border was as far as current day Northern Ireland (indicated by Hadrian Hall) and Persia (Iran/Iraq). They knew of India and probably made trades but can't be certain if they knew Russia existed.
so to tie this in... if Ys 7 takes place after the wars between romun and altagans, you are looking at "historically" around 140BC.
But that also means the Vortex of Canaan is a mysterious land because North America did not "exist" in Roman time. The world "ended" at the Pillars of Hercules.
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Post by regalsin on Nov 15, 2010 17:49:16 GMT -5
Okay lets not get over our heads. Ys did not take place during any roman times, biblical, or Egyptian times. Ys is not Conan at all. Ys is a work of fiction, that takes place in ancient times. Basically Post apocolyptic for the old world. The world that nobody really knows anything about. Like Atlantis, the Labriyth, the waterways, the crators, and a few fossillized animals. If Ys was real, it would have taken place around Conans time "The age of Swords an sworcery". As with Conan it would be like this. Great times, ---------------------------This is where Ys might have taken place The big bang Conans Time, Biblical times Ancient times Again All J-RPG games is from the DAD board games. All of those games is from the Dark ages, and the Midevil times. The enlightenment Darkages...............This is where Ys obviously took place along with other DAD The Renassances. About Roman Times, and etc. These are pre/post biblical times. You also have to remember many other series have done the exact same thing as Ys, and is in the present day era, in which Ys was created. Another thing to consider, being a fictional work, none of the Statues are painted, In the real roman/greek periods they statues/pillars was all dressed in gold, and various colors of sort ( not kidding ) after years, years of corrison they statues was washed cleaned of there paint, that people remember them for today. ////////////////////////// I would think the exact same thing you would think. These games was somehow historical. The truth is this. The creators of the game and or artists, generated fake worlds or used examples that played out in there heads. Trust me, it is called syncronicity. When one person thinks or generates something based on simularities. Remember Sonic the Hedgehog and we all dreamed about a red blurr following Sonic? Maybe it is the psycic link that is shared by our dreams, that generates wants that we all beleive in.
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Post by Peytral on Nov 15, 2010 18:28:51 GMT -5
Well, a greatly altered version of the timeframe of the Roman empire, at least. They didn't have ships with cannons on them back then, dammit! Hell, or even cannons at all. Or clock towers.
... Or automated robotic tanks with cannons, machine guns, and missles. Fucking Zirduros.
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Post by Incog Neato on Nov 15, 2010 18:31:33 GMT -5
If Ys took place in the time of Conan the Barbarian ... hirm ....
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Post by Peytral on Nov 15, 2010 19:33:59 GMT -5
Really, it seems like Ys and Golden Sun are the only games that try to draw parallels between their worlds and ours. And Ys does it a lot more synonymously.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Nov 16, 2010 10:06:12 GMT -5
woah... it's just a game... why so serious??
but if you say the game (Ys 7) takes place at the height of the roman empire (which can be highly debated), it would be the timeline during the 5 good emperors AD 96 to AD 192
but since if we suggest that altego is carthage and it's during the Punic Wars then you're in the Roman Republic which is the start of Rome's influence in the area (again, around 140BC). Remember, Hannibal took his elephant and almost destroy Rome in the 2nd Punic War. (218–203 BC) The only reason he failed was his elephants couldn't handle Italian's cold weather.
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