JonahTHD
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Post by JonahTHD on Jul 12, 2010 0:42:26 GMT -5
*Kinda-sorta grew up with such game.* though the closest thing to a hard game I grew up with was Blaster Master at my friends place. But yeah, I love playing Prinny, but I'm stuck at Darth Moab right now
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 0:50:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Prinny's final boss is terrible. I would have actually loved the fight if not for that freaking timer not letting me play defensively.
And lol, Prinny isn't hardcore. Hardcore is stuff like the original Super Mario Bros. and the classic Megaman games, where the controls WORK and you're rewarded for good reflexes, tight execution and making tight jumps, which is what Prinny DOESN'T do. Well, actually, the bosses certainly do require tight execution, but other than that.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jul 12, 2010 1:14:40 GMT -5
The controls work, believe me; some of us just aren't coordinated well enough to use what we're limited to. In the end, I agree and see where you're coming from; it's a shame the developers didn't at least make a mode that was easy enough to run through for those who can't make the cut. There are still plenty of really good games.
Also, when I said hardcore, I was talking about the difficulty, being able to plan your jumps before attempting them, utilizing your attacks to adjust the timing of your jumps in midair, etc.; there is a strategy involved, it's just not a simple one. It makes you think about *how* you play the game, versus having you play the game.
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JonahTHD
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Post by JonahTHD on Jul 12, 2010 1:23:40 GMT -5
Funny you should mention an easy mode, as I heard Prinny 2 will have one called "Baby Easy Mode" or something like that.
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:26:56 GMT -5
I'm sure it's unintentional, but you come off as kind of condescending in that first paragraph. Besides, more health or less enemies would hardly fix the game, since aside from the final boss and that huge cooking robot, my problems were not with the bosses.
But you don't plan your jumps. You take a leap of faith and then OH NO THERE'S AN ENEMY/BOTTEMLESS PIT, but you can't dodge it because you can't steer in the air! Goodbye, Prinny. And this happens so many times, it doesn't matter if you have enough lives to weather through it, it just makes you feel like a chump, it's not at all rewarding, and it's immensely frustrating. I know attacking in midair can save you sometimes, and boy did it save me a lot in that ninja fire stage, but it doesn't always work.
The reason the weird jump works in Super Mario Bros. is because you can pretty much always see where you're jumping, but in Prinny you can't, and that destroys it beyond repair. Anyway, this is probably going to end up like the Secret of Mana or FFVII arguments (except this time me and Wyrd are on the same side!) arguments that ended up just being circlejerks at the end, so... >_>
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JonahTHD
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Post by JonahTHD on Jul 12, 2010 1:32:07 GMT -5
Sorry, HJ I didn't mean to sound that way. It's just that UM mentioning how it's a shame that the dev's didn't make an easy mode or whatever reminded me that Prinny 2 will have an easy mode in it, is all. I never try to look down on people or anything like that and I'm sorry if I ever make it seems like such.
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:33:40 GMT -5
Oh no, not you. You just posted while I was typing my reply to Unsavory. Sorry for that misunderstanding, haha. Is it seriously called Baby Easy Mode, though? That IS kind of condescending!
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Post by JonahTHD on Jul 12, 2010 1:36:08 GMT -5
Alright, as long as we're all OK with each other and stuff. but yeah, it's seriously called Baby Easy and it's supposed to take out most of the sadistic challenge out of the game for more 'casual' players.
but other than that, I do indeed agree that we'll probably never eye-to-eye on the matter as of us are masochistic Gamers and others are just not as masochistic.
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:40:12 GMT -5
Well unless it fixed the jump or removed the timer on bosses, but with those two fixes I would probably have liked Prinny a lot.
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Post by Peytral on Jul 12, 2010 1:40:49 GMT -5
Only reason I'm arguing is because I didn't notice any bad controls or fake difficulty. And now I can play the game on Hell's Finest mode, where you die in one hit. <_<
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:44:02 GMT -5
Well, it's not like it's a BAD thing if you enjoy it lol, I just get argumentative, especially when people say it's because I'm not good enough or I "can't make the cut" when I'm actually of the opinion that it's just terribly unfair design keeping me from stylin' all over that game. (plus I did make it to the last boss >_>)
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:47:41 GMT -5
Haha, I was swearing like a sailor at the later levels.
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Post by JonahTHD on Jul 12, 2010 1:48:33 GMT -5
You know, I guess you could say in a sense, Prinny is the Retail version of I Wanna Be The Guy! Even more so on Hell's Finest! XD
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Post by Peytral on Jul 12, 2010 1:52:24 GMT -5
HJ, I -will- agree with you about the Chefbot-9000 though. He is the most broken boss ever.
EDIT: Also, even though I personally couldn't get into the game, I'd suggest the Power Stone Collection. Pretty neat 3D fighting game, and it's kind of like what you'd get if you took Super Smash Bros. and turned it 3D.
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 1:58:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it classifies as a must have, but Shadow of Destiny is worth checking out if you haven't played, or can't play, the PS2 version.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jul 12, 2010 2:45:06 GMT -5
I didn't intend to come off as condescending at all -- but I argue for the same reason peytral does. I don't notice anything particularly unfair, bad, or otherwise impossible about the game design or the controls. Did you get all of the secret notes from the area where you talk to all of the Prinnies? That's a good way to brush up on your jumping skills.
Also, apparently you actually get a special attack if you die enough and save the game.
Chefbot-9000 was pretty mean for having that tight time limit, but nothing's worse than the final boss.
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Post by HJ on Jul 12, 2010 2:51:50 GMT -5
I think I missed one note, but other than that, yeah. The time limit is what made those bosses so hard for me. Well, Chefbot was just tough in general, but I lost like ten times to the final boss only due to timeout. Unless he has some wicked new attack he only unleashes when he's on the ropes, then that might have got me.
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Post by Mutagene on Jul 12, 2010 4:19:29 GMT -5
I thought they butchered the port of Shadow of Destiny?
Also, what the hell, Power Stone Collection and I didn't know? FFFFFUUU-
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Post by Incog Neato on Jul 12, 2010 7:47:27 GMT -5
Best games on PSP? Aside from Ys SEVEN~~~
NOTHING BUT DJMAX PORTABLE GAMES ... except Fever. Although the PSN version is supposedly more playable because they fixed a few bugs.
The Taiko no Tatsujin series and Pop'n Music Portable are quite fun too!
Oh yeah, I also like Rock Band Unplugged quite a bit.
(Gee, I like rhythm games much?)
And I'm probably about one of the only people here that would recommend Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. :B
Crisis Core and Half-Minute Hero have already been mentioned~~
(This is like ... the extent of my PSP collection. XD)
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Post by Lunar on Jul 12, 2010 8:15:44 GMT -5
Is this really a must-have PSP games topic without Monster Hunter
r u guyz srs
I'll definitely add Monster Hunter Freedom Unite to the list. Also, Aedis Eclipse: Generation of Chaos is one of the secret best SRPGs on handhelds(but try it before you believe me, my taste is kind of weird in that department. Rondo of Swords is my favorite handheld SRPG ever >_>)
Eye of Judgment is fantastic too, same with Thexder Neo. And while it's easy to dismiss Lumines as a hacking tool for early PSPs, remember, it's still the system's best puzzle game
Japanese-speaking gamers(or people that don't care about a language barrier), remember that there is also a port of Tales of Rebirth! That game was too good. The dual remake of Tales of Phantasia/Narikiri Dungeon shows promise too, especially from the demo
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