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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Oct 6, 2010 14:42:23 GMT -5
Question is a spoiler, it is hidden below. Thanks for your help!
Is it possible to beat Scias when you first fight him in Altago City? (After he defeats Driesen) I see the story continues if you lose, which makes me think losing against him is part of the story. I'm just wondering. I don't want to miss out on anything if you can beat him, but right now even at level 51 I keep getting whipped.
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Post by Rebel40000 on Oct 6, 2010 15:18:08 GMT -5
You're not supposed to beat him, because he starts getting ridiculously powerful the more you hurt him. I have heard that if you somehow manage to pull it off, however, the game freezes up or something.
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Oct 6, 2010 16:09:09 GMT -5
Thanks guys! I had to make sure before proceeding. There's a fight with Eldeel in Mask of the Sun PS2 that you don't have to win, but you can if your level is high enough. Nothing changes though. I just kept thinking Scias might have some different dialogue if it was possible to beat him there.
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Post by Disgaeamad on Oct 6, 2010 16:30:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I was kinda annoyed at that actually. When he entered God Mode I was still holding my own against him pretty well until I decided that he definitely couldn't be damaged any further.
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Post by korzic on Oct 6, 2010 17:11:40 GMT -5
This is what Rebel40000 is referring to, I believe: en.nicoviewer.info/sm9021005Technically possible to get him to 0 HP (via a lot of stat item farming), but no way to advance the game.
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Oct 6, 2010 17:27:56 GMT -5
Wow, that's awesome! Thanks for posting that link, it was cool to see.
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Post by CrazyJo82 on Oct 7, 2010 10:24:29 GMT -5
what about Geis? is he beatable at the 1st meet?
i didn't bother... i'd figure the story will continue anyway. lol
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Post by HJ on Oct 7, 2010 11:01:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Geis can be beaten rather easily. I think he stays pretty much the same throughout the entire battle.
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Post by Este on Oct 7, 2010 11:41:18 GMT -5
If you can time flash guarding, Geis is a pushover. The only tricky thing he does is that one ranged attack every now and then (looks like his wind slash, but there are 5 of them).
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Post by Peytral on Oct 7, 2010 14:25:53 GMT -5
If you can time flash guarding, Geis is a pushover. The only tricky thing he does is that one ranged attack every now and then (looks like his wind slash, but there are 5 of them). But... that's his easiest attack to Flash Guard. D:
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Post by HJ on Oct 7, 2010 14:35:04 GMT -5
I didn't even flash guard, I just dodged and styled on him like a bawse. I flash guarded like a motherfucker in the arena battle, though.
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Post by Este on Oct 7, 2010 14:38:33 GMT -5
I had a really easy time flash guarding his standard attacks. Especially if you wait until the 4th hit, you can see it coming, plus there's a pause to give you extra time. Then I'd counter with a skill and dash away. If he used that wind slash, I was typically sitting back and feeling safe and would have to dodge on impulse.
The fact that I remember these details makes me think I've played the game too many times. But then I remember it's an Ys game, and there's no such thing as too many.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Oct 7, 2010 14:57:12 GMT -5
I usually don't Flash Guard. I never did against Geis, but I sure as heck did in the arena as well! I'm on Hard mode, so flash guarding became more of a necessity than usual. On normal, I could beat the arena without flash guarding. I've been saving all of the points before boss battles up until the Wind Dragon. I accidentally overwrote the bird/chariot fight, though. I'm a little miffed about that.
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Post by Peytral on Oct 7, 2010 21:11:30 GMT -5
Because it felt like cheating? I thought you didn't use it because you weren't very good at it.
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Post by Peytral on Oct 7, 2010 21:19:53 GMT -5
HEY, HEY EVERYBODY!
THIS GUY'S A PHONY! A BIG FAT PHONY!
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Oct 7, 2010 23:31:20 GMT -5
I actually didn't flashguard once the entire game. And for good reason:
Just where the hell in the game do they explain flashguard??? I didn't even know about it till I read something in a gamefaqs thread after beating it! Obviously I overlooked something pretty fuckin' important!
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Post by Peytral on Oct 7, 2010 23:42:43 GMT -5
Ys I & II needs a manual?
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Post by Incog Neato on Oct 8, 2010 1:17:43 GMT -5
I dunno, man. I figured out Mask of the Sun (me first Ys game) just fine.
BUT, I also believe -- as I mentioned a few times before -- that people that play Chronicles for the first time after Felghana, SEVEN, and Napishtim may FROWN MIGHTILY at the game due to its simplicity.
Hopefully, there are many that appreciate the older battle system and all though. :D
<3s Ys Eternal~~~~
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Post by Incog Neato on Oct 8, 2010 2:17:00 GMT -5
Ehh, in my experience, people had a hard time figuring out the bump system even AFTER I explained it to them... so I think your case is the exception, not the rule. All I know is, I shall be VERY, VERY CLEAR about it in the manual! Be sure to include cute little diagrams too! TT *............ imagines them to be Adol attacking pikkards >_>*
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Post by HJ on Oct 8, 2010 4:08:24 GMT -5
I didn't RTFM in Ys Seven because by the time I got the manual, I had completed the game.
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