I'm pretty certain there's something up with that darned cat and I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find that Celine is the next sacred beast, even though we literally just had that twist.
Tita... isn't really supernatural in any way. KeA is a special case and unlikely to be replicated again (plus, she's lost her powers). Renne and Tio have Gnosis to thank for their abilities and since Miriam is the right age and has the right eye color, I wouldn't be entirely surprised to learn that she's another D.G. victim. I'm also expecting her to be a Legion; nothing says Ouroboros only attacked Paradise. Overused? Maybe but lolis with robots seem to be popular so what can we do?
Speaking of robots, who knows what the black giant is but the ones in the OP that appear just after Osborn are almost certainly on loan from Ouroboros.
Still, I wouldn't put out the possibility that Miriam is KeA Mk.II since Mariabelle, who was descended from the alchemist line that created KeA, joined Ouroboros as the replacement for Weissman. As for the humanoid robots, this one is the one that I am interested in:
The other robots (sans the black giant) probably are the loans from Ouroboros, as you say, but this particular one has been appearing with the protagonists in the two separate images so I am little curious.
Considering there will lots of school elements and commoners vs. nobles power struggle in this game, one of my expectation for the Erebonian empire series is that after Osbourne wins the power struggle in this game, students from commoners will start creating extreme activists groups that go around bullying lesser nobles and destroying old properties, claiming that they are from the era where nobles unjustifiably exploited commoners. Of course, Osbourne will let these groups run wild so that he can solidify his power even further. In this case, some potential scenario for Trista radio station is that it will be sympathetic to commoners in this game but once commoners go too far in the next game, Trista radio station will criticize them. This prompts the above mentioned extreme activist groups to attack and destroy the radio station, leaving it up to our heroes to save the radio station's crews. Maybe something along this line can provide the epiphany for Machias that commoners can be just as greedy and corrupt as nobles.
The huge problem with Miriam being KeA 2.0 is that it doesn't fit in the timeline. Falcom has told us that Sen will run more or less parallel to Zero, which means that Mariabell isn't in Ouroboros yet when Miriam is running around Erebonia. Given how much time it took to create KeA in the first place and how closely linked she was to the lands of Crossbell and Demiourgos, I just don't see it happening again. Admittedly, I have an issue with Falcom's timeline because it mucks up some The 3rd/Zero connections (based on the former, the two games should take place simultaneously) but I'm going with the proposed theory that anything weird can be blamed on KeA not quite getting everything right when she rewrote the timeline in the first place.
I really like your idea for post-civil war strife and imagine that something along those lines will probably be a huge part of Machias' character arc. Really looking forward to him and Jusis' interactions.
On the black giant... whatever, I have semi-jokingly proposed at XSEED's board that it's the true form of Celine. I've also seen speculation (in both the English and Japanese communities) that it might in some way actually be Arianrhod. We already know there's something unnatural about her (if only because she's looking awfully good for someone who is supposed to have died 250 years ago) so it's not completely out of the question.
Post by fireinthehole on Jul 13, 2013 20:36:41 GMT -5
Oh well, we will have to wait and see. In the meantime, I read through the VA interview for some characters and apparently Misty and Claire have some secret sides to them. Maybe one of them is (or both of them are) a hidden villain? I'd say Misty is more likely since her job and popularity make it easier for her to get into and manipulate any situations at the Erebonian empire. Those stickers that she send out may be tracking devices for all we know.
Post by fireinthehole on Jul 19, 2013 6:13:38 GMT -5
Well, four new characters: Celine, Crow, George, and Millium. Considering Crow and Millium will be playable at some point, there seem to be lots of characters who will come in and out of the party throughout the game. I guess the game will be that long, which may explain why they had to cut some parts of the end game and turn them into the drama CD.
Considering Millium has a codename "white rabbit" and is about the same age as Tio and Renne, she may be an agent of Ouroboros, which would explain her vaguely humanoid robot. Maybe she is the replacement for Renne?
BTW, does anyone else think that Celine may have a human form?
It's so ridiculously obvious she's Ouroboros that I'm certain they're not even trying to pretend it's going to be a twist. She's got an autonomous robot companion that looks far too advanced to be anything but a Workshop Thirteen product and she's got all the other signs of being another Gnosis victim, which could explain where the society found her.
I don't think she would have been recruited specifically to replace Renne (more likely she's been in the Legion candidate program for a while) but she might pick up that number in the same way Mariabell is the new Third Pillar. Or she could be XVI. I'm almost certain that Shirley will become the next XIII or XV, since she fits the tarot symbolism behind both numbers.
For Celine, there has to be Something Up with that cat. She even has a character profile! Human form, giant form, avatar of Eidos Herself, who knows but I refuse to believe she's just a cat.
I'm suspicious of nearly every female over the age of about 20 as far as being 'The Abyss' goes. She's one more possibility, assuming they reveal another one this game (and that my longstanding but would be glad to be proven wrong "Lechter the Fourth Pillar" theory doesn't pan out)
One way or the other, I'm expecting a long performance with multiple songs around halfway through the game and perhaps a dramatic chandelier moment and a battle in the rafters.
Post by fireinthehole on Jul 30, 2013 20:43:11 GMT -5
One thing I noticed is that Phi seems to be the only person in the Class VII who doesn't seem to have any information on her backgrounds revealed. There is actually an interesting theory about her on one of the fansites that I found today:
Her gunblade weapons bear some similarities to Randy's and Shirley's rifles (guns with blades attached to them that can be used for both ranged and close combat). Also, in one of the movies released, she is the only one out of the party who notes the smell of the gunpowder, which may show her connection to one of the Jaeger corps. In fact, it's possible that she is the daughter of the king of the Jaeger who killed and was killed by Randy's father, which is mentioned in Ao no Kiseki.
I am little curious about the reason for her recruitment. I can definitely see the purpose of the Class VII as an attempt to draw the bridge between the nobles (Rin, Eliot, Jusis, and Laura) and the commoners (Alisa, Machias, Emma, and Gaius). Alisa's and Machias's parents have strong influences in the empire and Emma and Gaius are the exemplary students who won the scholarship and the recommendation of one of the imperial officers respectively, which explain their inclusion. So Phi is like the only odd woman out. Unlike the Special Support Section from the Crosbell series, the Class VII should be considered prestigious so I wonder what is the meaning of her inclusion and who actually put her in there.
Thors was originally designed to be egalitarian and that makes it the perfect place for Olivier to try to work from within the system, by bringing the school back to its roots with this new experimental class. I'm pretty certain he selected every single member (Gaius for example is hinted to have gotten his recommendation from Mueller) which means that Fie is there for a reason. I'm certain Osborne has some of his Iron Breed at Thors undercover to keep an eye on Olivier's machinations but I'm also fairly certain that Class VII's members were very carefully screened for that kind of thing.
Interesting theory if they want to develop that apparent side-plot more.
Wasn't that man the leader of the 'West Wind Jaegers' or something? That could fit with Fie's Wind-themed attacks and if she's ex-Jaeger it would explain her mysterious past. Plus, we know Red Constellation aren't Olivier's favorite bunch and the fight that led to the mutual Jaeger leader deaths took place around the time Sen should be beginning. I could see Olivier seeking out his daughter and offering her a deal: Give me your fighting skills and I'll give you a semblance of a normal life and a shot at revenge with more support than you could get on your own. If the theory is true and Fie is anything like Randy, she'd probably leap at the chance.
I like it. Of course, I also like the idea I've proposed at XSEED's board that Fie is one big red herring and the only reason her past is mysterious is that she's from an unfashionable part of the Empire and she's embarassed to admit it.
Post by fireinthehole on Aug 1, 2013 21:34:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah, another thing I noticed now is that Misty and Vita (the opera singer) really look like, from their eye color, beauty mark, and even hairstyle. They could be siblings or even the same person. Maybe that's the secret side to Misty that her VA was talking about? Since Vita is the only character in the official homepage that doesn't have a VA listed, it's definitely possible.
Post by fireinthehole on Aug 3, 2013 17:56:54 GMT -5
Well, it looks like Bleu Blanc will appear in the drama CD. According to the interview of the VAs, the drama CD's scenario is apparently taking place during a vacation of some sort. I guess it would be too silly to put something of a filler episode in the middle of the end game where the mood is definitely going to be serious.
A Misty/Vita connection seems likely, nice call. I'm thinking siblings but either way it should be interesting to watch play out. Also, Bleublanc is clearly appearing as himself in the main game as shown in the newest scans (and implied by the previously revealed artwork) and not just in disguise. Wonder if that means Class VII will get to fight him. Either way, I want to see him steal crazy things this time. My bet: A first kiss.
Got our terrorist trio who are totally not the Clan of Darkness from Celceta in a new universe... except that Gadis 2.0 uses a gatling gun and Bammy 2.0 raises all kinds of eyebrows, not because of that outfit but because she's using a Temple Sword.
Post by fireinthehole on Aug 9, 2013 1:29:43 GMT -5
Yeah, the trio looks like the obvious pawns for Ouroboros even though Scarlett may be working for the church in secret. While Ouroboros seems to be the obvious identity of the backer for the terriorist group, it is still strange for Ouroboros to help the terrorist group that is obviously working against Osbourne, who is allied with Ouroboros, unless the terrorist is a willing / unwilling pawn of Osbourne / Ouroboros. Then, I guess it would make sense for Scarlett's being an undercover agent from the church. Still, even if she is from the church, I think she is probably one of those lesser knights like Ries and that certain someone from Zero no Kiseki. Also, nice to see Toval's finally appearing in the game. I wonder if a S-rank bracer other than Cassius will appear this time.
In this specific case, I doubt it. If Erebonia was home to one of the other three S-Ranks, it wouldn't have been the right stage for Campanella's plan to keep Cassius busy during the events of FC. Either that Bracer would have handled the matter or he/she would have been targeted (prompting the Guild to send Cassius)... in which case we would have heard something about it during that Star Door.
Maybe we'll get more information about one or more of them though. A couple of Bracers were mentioned by title in Zero in the same breath as Arios (who's almost S level) so it's possible they'll give us something work with in Sen indirectly.
For Scarlet(te?), my guess is that she's an ex-Grals Ritter rather than an undercover operative. Having a heretic would present interesting possibilities to see the Church from a slightly different angle (distorted maybe but it could be revealing all the same) without replaying the same plot yet again. Either way, she's definitely either a Squire or Knight and not a Dominion. For one thing, she doesn't have green hair.
Post by fireinthehole on Aug 14, 2013 2:26:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess Scarlett could be an ex-knight-turned-an-agent-of-Ouroboros, which makes her a likely candidate for Ouroboros's performers. After all, Ouroboros had at least one former church member in its ranks.