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Post by GuyInDogSuit on Oct 27, 2015 11:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by SkyeWelse on Oct 28, 2015 10:26:08 GMT -5
I ordered the Ys Seven Chinese PC Limited Edition set a few years ago and I was impressed with everything that came with the package overall. The game itself was cheap, but the shipping and handling (and middleman service markup) fees was what ended up making it kind of expensive. Not too sure about this set... A) Because it doesn't seem to have a whole lot of extra bonus items included with it (unless there is a larger set that I haven't seen yet which is more of a premium box set) Edit: There is apparently, a 199 set that comes with a Nendoroid. shop.pcjoy.cn/gamedetails.aspx?lid=10030&tid=3&sid=147 which is equally unimpressive and for twice the price.  B) I did not like the DRM implemented for the Ys Seven PC version. Even though I had purchased a legitimate copy of the game, when I moved computers I failed to "deactivate it" from my original computer thus making the key worthless on a new machine. If I had understood the Chinese language or did more research first, perhaps this could have been avoided initially, but the real kicker is this: Even though I had purchased new digital cd-key licenses for the game, some of which I gave to friends here and some of which I kept for myself, eventually at least 3 of those licenses just randomly stopped working for no reason at all. I ended up giving one of my friends, Xalphenos, who had originally purchased a cd-key from me one of my backup spare keys and that spare key that I had been saving in case of emergency no longer worked anymore even though we had never used it. My guess was that it eventually got used up through some kind of serial/cd-key generator, but that's still pretty unfair to the consumer. I once tried writing to JoyToPlay to see if something could be done about it and they never responded. C) I believe I read somewhere that the PS-Vita TV issue for Ys Celceta has been fixed for NA? Haven't tried it yet, but I believe I heard that some folks had success with it. If that is true, the graphics are already good enough for the Vita/Vita TV so you'd likely only get a minimal improvement graphically for the PC version. It makes more sense for the Ys Seven PC version as it has significant graphical and texture improvements over the original PSP version. D) For Hacking / Translation purposes, trying to make Ys Seven PC fully in English was beginning to look like a DRM / Securom nightmare, and pretty much not worth it, though I think some folks may have continued this project anyway. So I can imagine trying to do the same using the PSVita version as a basis would be equally difficult. So that pretty much breaks it down to it being only worth if for the limited physical goods and a cool looking box in my eyes. -Thomas |
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Post by BatteryShark on Dec 9, 2015 2:20:30 GMT -5
So I'm going to throw this out there and try not to step on too many toes, but the securom protection (especially in Celceta) is pretty easy to unwrap for the purpose of playing it sans activation and translation work - whatever team ports this stuff doesn't enable even half the options that make SR8 a nightmare to fix. I was able to strip out the securom stuff and get it running on 5 systems (with and without a debugger and various modifications) I've tested so far with about 4 hours of work; the game also starts a lot faster when it doesn't have to init the securomVM, haha.
It almost makes me wonder if this was intentional due to the fact that they butchered Ys7 stability and performance with so many options enabled with its Securom profile (Ys7 was far more aggressive and did a lot more crap than this one).
Anyway, not that I think we should all just pirate the game without paying (I own like 5 keys because... why not - they're dirt cheap), but if it comes down to it and you guys want technical help to translate the game - I would be willing to help. The PC version is probably not going to be released in the US for... god knows how long if at all. In addition, until the PSVITA version is dumped, translation is going to be pain.
I don't know exactly what the rules are, but I can imagine posting a link to the fixed exe here without asking probably wouldn't be a good idea - I'll defer to moderator judgement on that one. In any case, if anyone more senior on the board who already owns the game wants to help test the stripped EXE with me to make sure there aren't any bugs (there shouldn't be, but I havent tested many systems yet) , that would be helpful.
Cheers,
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