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Post by Cleria on Sept 11, 2004 0:57:01 GMT -5
I'm hearing all these Japanese titles, could someone give me a list of them all, including the English games? Please and thank you.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Sept 29, 2004 12:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by FM-77AV on Sept 30, 2004 4:35:47 GMT -5
You forgot Lord Monarch -Falcom 10th anniversary- and Tombs & Treasure
Also, the games are called Dragon slayer.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Sept 30, 2004 5:37:03 GMT -5
I'll refrain from gouging my eyes out and simply reiterate:
"Not all Falcom compilations, ports, or remakes are listed."
Moreover, if you wish to be Captain Semantics then the games are titled, "Dragon Slayer" not, "Dragon slayer."
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Post by FM-77AV on Sept 30, 2004 6:03:23 GMT -5
I'll refrain from gouging my eyes out and simply reiterate: "Not all Falcom compilations, ports, or remakes are listed." Moreover, if you wish to be Captain Semantics then the games are titled, "Dragon Slayer" not, "Dragon slayer." Those games are not "compilations, ports, or remakes", they are, in fact, unique games. Although Tombs and treasure originated on some other system than NES originally.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 1, 2004 22:05:48 GMT -5
Has "Lord Monarch -Falcom 10th anniversary-" gone by another name?
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 2, 2004 14:06:48 GMT -5
Nope. Never. (10th anniversary means that it was released 10 years after Falcom's founding.) This game is the first game in the (awful) Lord Monarch series. At least I think it's awful.
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 4, 2004 8:02:00 GMT -5
Oh, you also forgot Brandish VT. And Romancia is not called Dragon slayer III. Romancia is called "Dragon slayer JR: Romancia". It does not have a number. There is also an expansion to Xanadu that COULD be concidered the "real" Dragon slayer III. "Xanadu Scenario 2". OK, I can see that you put Lord Monarch in there as Dragon slayer VII. (It was actually released for many systems: PC-9801, Super Famicom, Mega drive and FM towns.) Also, there's a game that is actually called "Dragon Slayer II: Dorasure gaiden". It is for Game boy. It is NOT Xanadu, but in fact a unique Falcom game. Dragon slayer I was also released for Game boy but Falcom actually developed this game. Another thing, Falcom did not make the original Dragon slayer I. Square did. Falcom just published it for them (Square was a VERY small company at that time). Take a look at this image, see the Square logo on the box? (Note that Falcom developed the Game boy version) The Dragon slayer "series" is a confusing one, but in fact it is NOT a "series". Falcom had a rule to call all games created by "Yoshio Kiya" Dragon slayer. When he left Falcom, all the actual game series within Dragon slayer could walk their own way. Hence the later "Legend of heroes" games are no longer called "Dragon slayer". Actually, I think I will make a thread explaining the Dragon slayer series further sometime. These are the actual names for the "Dragon slayer" games: 1 - Dragon Slayer (by Square) (1984) 2 - Xanadu (1985) 2.1 - Xanadu Scenario II (1986) 3 - Dragon Slayer Jr: Romancia (1986) 4 - Dragon Slayer IV: Drasle family (1987) 5 - Sorcerian (1987) 5.1 - Sorcerian Additional Scenarios Vol.1 (1988) 5.2 - Sengoku Sorcerian (1988) 5.3 - Pyramid Sorcerian (1988) 6 - The Legend of Heroes (1989) 6.1 - The Legend of Heroes II (1992) 7 - Lord Monarch (1991) 7.1 - Advanced Lord Monarch (1991) 7.2 - Monarch Monarch (1994) 8 - The Legend of Xanadu (1994) 8.1 - The Legend of Xanadu II (1995) As you can see, only three of the games are actually called Dragon Slayer in the title. And there are millions of these games.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 4, 2004 10:50:33 GMT -5
"Another thing, Falcom did not make the original Dragon slayer I. Square did."Yeah, I remember the title screen to Dragonslayer reading, "Presented by Square. Licensed by Falcom." "Also, there's a game that is actually called "Dragon Slayer II: Dorasure gaiden[.]"I've since added it to my list. Thank you. "Oh, you also forgot Brandish VT."I thought it was Brandish 4 (or update thereof). I came to that conclusion from a Falcom licensing page. "Romancia is called 'Dragon slayer JR: Romancia[.]'"Yeah, I remember the title screen for that as well. "As you can see, only three of the games are actually called Dragon Slayer in the title. And there are millions of these games."I'm not sure what you mean by this. The Legend of Heroes definitely has "Dragon Slayer" on the title screen. The Legend of Xanadu lists itself as "Dragon Slayer VIII" in the credits. Lord Monarch lists itself as "Dragon Slayer VII" in the game. I believe Sorcerian even listed itself as Dragonslayer in the game (though I cannot remember for certain). I'm not really sure why all these title semantics matter unless you're a historian. 9.5 out of 10 people will refer to Romancia as "Dragonslayer III" Accuracy for the sake of reference is all well and good; however, I'm not sure how much it matters in this instance. EDIT: As an aside, is Dragonslayer Square's first game? Apparently, only the MSX version of Dragon Slayer mentioned it was "Presented by Square." These pictures of the PC-8801 version don't mention Square at all, heh. What do you have in that picture? Is that an MSX cart? If so, is it known for a fact that Square developed Dragon Slayer or may they have simply been the ones to port the 1985 version to MSX? Cheers.
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 5, 2004 1:39:59 GMT -5
It's the MSX version on the picture. (MSX1 cart.)
Edit: Oh, and there's Xanadu Next for N-Gage. As well as Sorcerian for Dreamcast (this is a new Sorcerian game using the old title).
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 5, 2004 14:23:40 GMT -5
Let's get back to square one. To clarifiy:
-"Lord Monarch -Falcom 10th anniversary-" is, in fact, Dragonslayer VII. -Tombs & Treasure is Asteka II. -Brandish VT is Brandish 4. -Sorcerian for Dreamcast is a remake of Sorcerian (The only significant game differences are the 3D graphics and the inclusion of five more missions. Otherwise, it's the same as the original game.) I understand I added Ys Eternal on my list and that is a remake. However, I did specify that not all compilations, ports, or remakes were listed. My goal is chiefly to list each unique game. That's what he was asking for, after all. Wasn't it? -Xanadu Next has yet to be released.
So, the only game that needs to be added to my list is Dorasure Gaiden.
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 6, 2004 6:37:04 GMT -5
Brandish 4 is a remake of Brandish VT, but Sorcerian for Dreamcast is NOT a remake. It is a new game. There are practically no similiarities from the original games. In the old Sorcerian, you only walk around in sidescrolling caverns. This is not the case for the new Sorcerian. Like I said, it is not a remake.
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Post by Graalwanderer on Oct 7, 2004 0:15:15 GMT -5
Thank you, EvaUnit02, I have been helped a lot by your list of Falcom titles. Since Falcom was founded in 1981 (I guess), I have been wondering what happened before 1984/85. What was Falcom doing before Asteka and Dragon Slayer? I recently found this page that seems to list Falcom titles: yukitin.webin.jp/Ys/falcom.htmlWhat can you people here in Ancient land of Ys tell us about those titles listed in 1982-1984? Are those titles forgotten Falcom games? Does anyone have information about them?
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 7, 2004 0:56:01 GMT -5
These games are more or less forgotten, and it does not surprise me at all.. Anyway, you can read about these old titles on Falcom's history page. Falcom actually created one of the first RPGs, I don't remember the title, but as far as I know, if was fairly similiar to Dragon slayer.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 7, 2004 11:00:20 GMT -5
I recently found this page that seems to list Falcom titles: yukitin.webin.jp/Ys/falcom.htmlWhat can you people here in Ancient land of Ys tell us about those titles listed in 1982-1984? Are those titles forgotten Falcom games? Does anyone have information about them? Wow! I've never heard of them before! I don't know anything about them. I'll see if I can dig up some information. From top to bottom the new games read: Release date: June 1982 Galactic Wars Release date: August 1983 Computer: The Golf (Gulf?) Release date: August 1983 Horror House Release date: October 1983 Birdland Release date: November 1983 Private College Girl (Private Stripper) Release date: December 1983 Mansion of Madness Release date: December 1983 Panorama Island ADV Release date: March 1984 Demon Ring Release date: May 1984 Northern Threat Private College Girl is the first game I had on my list. It's a pornographic puzzle game. The title screen lists an English title of, "Private Stripper." EDIT: I've confirmed the existence of Panorama Island and Demon Ring. Panorama Island is a typical Ultima-esque RPG. I've provided a screen shot of the title screen. I have no idea how Demon Ring plays. I've also found a game titled, "The Golf" either developed or published by a company named Microcabin. It was released in 1983 for the PC-88. That may very well be "Computer: The Golf"; however, Falcom's name does not appear on the title screen so, I'm not sure if they had any involvement or not. I'll clean up my list within the week and organize it much like this fellow has. I'll also expand the list to include remakes and expansions.
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Post by Graalwanderer on Oct 7, 2004 18:53:07 GMT -5
I'll clean up my list within the week and organize it much like this fellow has. I'll also expand the list to include remakes and expansions. That sounds great. Thanks a lot for the english translation of the titles of the old (1982-1984) Falcom games. Also, thanks for the information about some of the titles. It´s interesting to follow the Falcom history from the very beginning.
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 10, 2004 2:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by Gillian Seed on Oct 10, 2004 10:34:40 GMT -5
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Post by EvaUnit02 on Oct 10, 2004 10:51:40 GMT -5
There's only one VM Japan (and it's called "Mystic far east") released the 02/06/27 The VM Japan Power-up Kit was released the 02/09/27. Verified and corrected. Thanks. I mistakenly had the Chinese release dates listed. I don't quite know what you're talking about. That's what I have on the list. If you are aware of missing titles, I would prefer you list them. Remember that I will not add compilation games (E.g., "Best of" collections, "Complete Box" collections, "Classic" collections, etc.) Cheers.
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Post by Graalwanderer on Oct 10, 2004 11:24:54 GMT -5
This is a very nice list indeed.
I believe Brandish 2 - Expert for Super Famicom is missing.
I´m also wondering about Legend of Heroes VI, is it there?
Thanks again for a great list of games!
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