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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 10, 2008 20:55:00 GMT -5
Why did you play with the Japanese voices?
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Post by Inochi 命 on Feb 10, 2008 22:23:31 GMT -5
Numerous reasons... which I thought I already explained...?
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Post by michaelchaoslord on Feb 14, 2008 19:13:27 GMT -5
I pronounced Ys as wise. When the family found out it was actually pronounced yeast or whatever, they ignored it and kept it with wise (even me). I like the psp intro better than the ps2 but the loading time for the psp version was god awful. The voice acting to me wasn't that bad. I've heard worse.
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Post by Incog Neato on Feb 16, 2008 11:38:04 GMT -5
Aside from Terra, the intro wasn't all that poorly voiced, I didn't think. I loved Dogi's "Huuuuhhh?" (: d00de, is there ANY game out there that has totally crap voice acting? You seem to be (usually) easily impressed. :P
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Post by afiqys on Feb 17, 2008 14:01:24 GMT -5
I think the 1st Resident Evil game has terrible voice acting and timing... Thank God they made a remake.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Feb 17, 2008 14:19:16 GMT -5
I've actually heard that the caching on the new PSPs nearly eliminates the load times on the PSP release. Can anyone confirm/deny this? I'm sure Wyrdwad knows more about this, but I heard from him in some topic that the PSP's new model, the PSP Slim, cuts off the load times very significantly. By the way, I'm going to get a PSP Slim just because he confirmed us that. xD
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 17, 2008 20:16:05 GMT -5
Just get a custom firmware and download the game. Why have some load times when you can have zero? Also, don't be fooled and buy another PSP just because they did some minor changes.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Feb 18, 2008 2:00:19 GMT -5
And to respond to nunuu's comment: I actually dislike voice-acting in games more often than I like it! In fact, a lot of games that get praised for having excellent voice-acting are ones that I tend to find really bad. Odin Sphere, for example... no clue why people always praise the English voices in that. I honestly think it's one of Atlus's worst dubs of all time, and I switched to the Japanese voices sooooo quickly, as I found the English ones to be simply AWFUL. I even went back later, convinced that I must've just been in a foul mood or something, and that the voice-acting couldn't have been THAT bad... but no, it was just as bad! -Tom Read: Wyrdy's not allowed to like it if it's popular.
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 18, 2008 10:04:05 GMT -5
Just get a custom firmware and download the game. Why have some load times when you can have zero? Also, don't be fooled and buy another PSP just because they did some minor changes. Agreed, as I mentioned: I guess I forgot to mention the custom firmware. I'm not worried about 3.90 m33 though, when I have 3.52 m33... I don't have anything that breaks the barrier yet. Anything good (games, misc. features, etc.?) I really need to upgrade for? I can't afford an 8 Gb MSPD... and I don't see the need for it outside of convenience. I have the m33 on my PC, just never bothered really. Just upgrade it. If you have 3.52 M33-4, you can upgrade straight to 3.90, no need to get the FWs in between first, and nowadays they're using Sony's own upgrader, so it is even easier to upgrade now. Just put the 390 firmware file and the installer in the GAME150 folder, and press OK. PS: Very nice blue PSP. Wouldn't mind having that (I WOULD mind buying one though - 300€, that's insane!). But I prefer white myself... and I already have a phat white PSP.
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Post by yotaka on Feb 18, 2008 12:43:25 GMT -5
d00de, is there ANY game out there that has totally crap voice acting? You seem to be (usually) easily impressed. :P The best example I can think of is the original Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, but it reminds me of so many beloved b-movies that I can't bring myself to hate it even though it's suchncheesy crap. Ancient Ys Library (anyone here remember that site?) even compared it to Ys III PCE, in a trivia question asking what the US versions of both games had in common besides being cd-based. ;D
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Post by Lumi on Feb 21, 2008 18:06:22 GMT -5
Since this thread's veered off into the realms of voice acting, I can think of another one with some truly "UGH!" inspiring voices: Baten Kaitos. Normally, I'll suffer through a game with bad voice acting, just because it feels somewhat wrong to turn the stuff off if it's available and it's been intended to be there. (I'm weird like that; I always kept default names for characters back in the day, too.) This game... marks the first time the voices were so ungodly awful to me that I simply had to turn them off to progress. I enjoyed the game a hell of a lot more after that, too. Odin Sphere itself is an excellent game. I just can't stand the English voice-acting. ...And wyrdy, why the hate on Odin Sphere's voices? I'm guessing you're not fond of the rather formal speech they took it with? Kinda helped the mood for me; it seems very much like it's meant to be a fairytale, so I expected the characters to speak accordingly. It's awkward next to modern speech, but I thought it worked really nicely in the context of the game. That's just me, though. ;P
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Post by FM-77AV on Feb 21, 2008 18:10:26 GMT -5
Rule of Rose. Best voice acting in any game, ever.
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Post by Lumi on Feb 21, 2008 22:08:59 GMT -5
I've heard Origins was significantly improved from the first game (like that's HARD ) but I haven't gotten around to picking it up. I should.. but I'm still plugging away through Dawn of Mana. ^^; Hm... I won't argue taste with you, but I didn't see the voice work as being THAT horrible. It's certainly not the greatest I've heard, but it seemed to fit pretty well and felt solid to me for most characters. I will say that a couple of the characters occasionally fell a little flat at times, but it wasn't frequent enough to piss me off, at least. And hey, not EVERYTHING Namco Bandai localizes is badly done. Tales of the Abyss was a thing of beauty from the script to the voices. I was VERY happy with the job they did. Wish they'd done so well with the Legend of Heroes games, dammit. *SULK*
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Post by Lumi on Feb 22, 2008 2:35:57 GMT -5
I like that reasoning, and shall thusly steal it.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Feb 22, 2008 10:17:08 GMT -5
(I'm weird like that; I always kept default names for characters back in the day, too.) This would be because you aren't a retard. And I shall also take to blaming Bandai.
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Post by Lumi on Feb 22, 2008 15:34:18 GMT -5
(I'm weird like that; I always kept default names for characters back in the day, too.) This would be because you aren't a retard. I knew I liked you for a reason. Why, thank you. I actually was *heartbroken* to hear the English voices, because I loved the Japanese cast so much. ;o; Meh.. I kinda liked the English voice they pegged on Kalas, but everyone else ran the gamut from mediocre to OH-GOD-MAKE-IT-STOP awful.
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Post by Incog Neato on Feb 24, 2008 12:56:32 GMT -5
I actually dislike voice-acting in games more often than I like it! In fact, a lot of games that get praised for having excellent voice-acting are ones that I tend to find really bad. Hirm! I've yet to come across a game where people go "yay!" over the acting and I go "nay!". Methinks the problem is that companies don't put the time and money to look for REAL talent. Instead, they simply just go for people that can read the script without tripping over every other word. I'm not asking for Warner Brothers or Disney cartoon or The Simpsons quality actors -- okei, maybe I am. :P But man, just ... argh ... just people that can portray characters realistically and naturally. Off the top of my head, here's my list of oohs, okeis, and ughs in gaming. (Judged by overall acting in the game.): Ooh!: Koudelka Grand Theft Auto III Okei: Gurumin Tales of Legendia (I ADORED Norma and that male Bantam Bouncer.) Shadow Hearts: Covenant The Sword of Etheria Kingdom Hearts II Tales of Destiny II (a.k.a. Tales of Eternia US) Ugh!: Dynasty Warriors 3, 4, and 5 Warriors Orochi Samurai Warriors Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Knights of Xentar Grandia (Why in all hell did Koei REMOVE the option to switch to Japanese voices in their later games? >:E) I didn't list any Ys games since I had the pleasure of never being subjected to their English voice acting. XD
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Feb 24, 2008 18:15:02 GMT -5
Well. Part of the problem of quality is that companies tend to mistake "quality" with "celebrity". Example: High budget anime dubbing.
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Post by Varion on Feb 26, 2008 10:36:37 GMT -5
And hey, not EVERYTHING Namco Bandai localizes is badly done. Tales of the Abyss was a thing of beauty from the script to the voices. I was VERY happy with the job they did. Wish they'd done so well with the Legend of Heroes games, dammit. *SULK* Agreed, definitely. I really enjoyed the voice acting in Abyss. It's funny, people always praise Takehito Koyasu's voicing of Jade as 'the role he was born for' yet somehow I can't imagine anyone fitting him better than his English voice actor, who did an exceptional job. There's an undubbed version floating around I could use with the hard drive, but seriously, when I replay it I'll probably just stick with the dub. Symphonia's dub on the other hand... yeah. I had to turn the voices off entirely as soon as Colette opened her mouth
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Post by Lumi on Feb 26, 2008 19:20:54 GMT -5
Agreed, definitely. I really enjoyed the voice acting in Abyss. It's funny, people always praise Takehito Koyasu's voicing of Jade as 'the role he was born for' yet somehow I can't imagine anyone fitting him better than his English voice actor, who did an exceptional job. There's an undubbed version floating around I could use with the hard drive, but seriously, when I replay it I'll probably just stick with the dub. Symphonia's dub on the other hand... yeah. I had to turn the voices off entirely as soon as Colette opened her mouth Agreed on all counts. The only cast member in Abyss I was kinda "meh" on was Tear; she had a tendency to sound a little flat at times... but it wasn't unbearable. And she did pretty good on most of the lines that really mattered, so hey. Symphonia's dub was pretty good, but there were definitely a few voices that I could've done without. Some of the voice direction seems like it might've been a little off, too--the delivery of some lines just didn't feel like it jived. It's not always a noticeable thing, but it tends to twitch at me when you can TELL the lines weren't all recorded at the same time or place. Tends to kill the whole illusion, if that makes any lick of sense, even if the acting itself is great.
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