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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jan 25, 2009 16:44:48 GMT -5
You know. Main character is female, right? I am totally hoping this guy will be the main love interest.
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Post by Justin on Jan 25, 2009 23:52:00 GMT -5
That would be grand. Almost as grand as this:
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Post by Incog Neato on Jan 26, 2009 17:07:13 GMT -5
OMG, Justin, you find the best photos for this thread. ^^;;;;
Man, I don't remember TOS that much, especially that episode. My poor childhood memories are fading away. :(((
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Post by Justin on Jan 26, 2009 18:26:36 GMT -5
The kiss between those 2 was the first interracial kiss ever broadcast on Cable TV.
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Post by Zoelius on Jan 28, 2009 15:19:05 GMT -5
na.square-enix.com/ff13/another new trailer is up, from the official site. Now its in english and gameplay. and a youtube version (Contains no subtitle)
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Post by Incog Neato on Jan 28, 2009 17:57:32 GMT -5
That was a cool video~! I don't have any idea what any of the terms and names mean though!!!
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2009 0:07:13 GMT -5
Wow that was... amazing!
Why can't this just come out sooner!!
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Post by Copyrighted Name on Jan 29, 2009 0:50:28 GMT -5
Gotta concur with Wyrdwad, I'm afraid. The newest trailer has actually made me less interested in the game than I was before. I was holding out on the hope that this game would be a return to form for the series, but now I'm convinced that Square just doen't get it any more. Oh well. It was great while it lasted. Goodbye, Square. We'll always have FF I-X to remember you by.........
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2009 0:54:06 GMT -5
You think Fragile has a better presentation than FF XIII? I know your one to support the niche titles, but give me a break man. Fragile is a poor game to compare FF XIII with, as they are two completely different styles.
There is definitely the Final Fantasy Square style in the game, and the gameplay looks pretty traditional and close to its roots. What's the problem with that? If anything, your point of complaining is the same as saying Ys is bland. IMO all your points could be tacked on to OiF and YsO, which are upgraded versions of past Ys games. I think your being too hard on the game.
I did say I was unimpressed with Fragile, but I won't go as far to proclaim its "soulless". There just isn't enough content to base a stance like that. Plus, IIRC your not a big fan of the series anyways so, what's the point of putting it down?
In all honesty I think you don't like the game for a few reasons: Its popular, its in your face, its flashy, and it has high production values <---- Qualities usually not found in games you like.
FFX was fantastic, XII was really good (For what I played anyways), X2 actually turned out to be a fantastic game. I am not really getting where your "board meeting creativity" outlook is coming from.
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Post by Zoelius on Jan 29, 2009 1:19:48 GMT -5
Sorry Wryd, but i gotta support Justin on this one, after playing Fragile for 7 hours, the gameplay is really bland and the only thing that keeps you going is the amazing atomsphere and story. I'll have to stick with FF13 on this one.
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2009 1:49:51 GMT -5
Sorry man, but the gameplay innovations between Final Fantasy 9 - 12 are paramount compared to what little changes occurred between Ys 6 and YsO. Last time I checked, there was a shitload of people working on Final Fantasy XIII, and just because the series is popular, doesn't mean its not someones "brain child". Tons of energy, love and ideas go into the game. Remember, Final Fantasy was once the original niche title you so crave. I don't think its fair to put the game down because of the series' overall success. I do understand you have your preferences, and I am not saying they are wrong. I just don't think its fair to harp on a game that bad, which isn't even out, and only has 10 minutes of content available at best. And Zoelius: Frankly, atmosphere and story are enough. As long as the gameplay isn't game-wreckingly abysmal, I can still guarantee I'll enjoy Fragile 1000x more than FF13. Because I can tell just from the trailers that Fragile has something FF13 doesn't: A SOUL. -Tom Wrong Wrong Wrong. Dude how can you say that when you have yet to play FF XIII. First of all, a Video GAME is supposed to be a GAME, not some interactive movie. Gameplay is the most important part of a video game, and quite frankly, if the gameplay is lacking, the game is ass. If a game doesn't play well, but its story is great, then its better off being an Anime, or some crappy cartoon/movie. You know what, Ill play both god damn games, and if Fragile is 1000X better than the "lackluster terrible ordeal" that is Final Fantasy XIII, Ill give you my entire game collection. Frustrating to say the least...... I am going to bed.
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Post by Kimimi on Jan 29, 2009 2:38:40 GMT -5
Now I'm certainly not excited by FF13, but give me that over the tripe Mistwalker have churned out any day.
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Post by Kimimi on Jan 29, 2009 2:49:41 GMT -5
That's a rather unfair statement which appears to boil down to "Only uneducated gamers who couldn't possibly know any better will see any merit in successful series"
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jan 29, 2009 5:19:26 GMT -5
You see. FF just isn't hip anymore.
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Post by Varion on Jan 29, 2009 5:20:51 GMT -5
Now I'm certainly not excited by FF13, but give me that over the tripe Mistwalker have churned out any day. Agreed. As for the trailer, it was decent enough. Nothing exceptional but I'm not expecting anything exceptional from the game, either. Just some pretty graphics and a half-decent plot and gameplay. I skipped FF12 but I'll probably buy this unless lots of more interesting games come out around the same time, if for nothing else than to give my HDTV a workout.
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Post by Copyrighted Name on Jan 29, 2009 9:39:20 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Wyrdwad. While FFXII had too much Akitoshi Kawazu to have soulless gameplay, everything else about the game felt pretty darn uninspired. FFXI... let's not even go there.Suffice it to say I've never played it and probably never will.
One thing I can't agree with, though, is the claim that FF3-FF9 only made "minor tweaks". One of the defining elements of FF is that the series never does the same thing twice, or when they do, they make sure there's some big changes to make it feel fresh.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jan 29, 2009 9:58:06 GMT -5
FF: Generic RPG engine + story, Make your party, Medieval setting FF2: Character EXP scrapped for Stat EXP system, Static party, Medieval setting FF3: Character EXP returns, Job system, Magic equip/unequip system, Make your static party, Medieval + Pirate setting FF4: Static party, Medieval setting FF5: Make your static party, Medieval + Pirate setting FF6: Massive party with *too few differences*, Esper magic system, Medieval + Technology setting FF7: Massive party, Materia magic system, Sub-futuristic setting FF8: Massive party, Draw magic system, Futuristic setting FF9: Massive party, Equipment magic system, Medieval + Technology setting FF10: ...I haven't played it in so long, that I forgot. Futuristic setting FF10-2: ^ Same ^ FF11: I haven't played this at all. Generic MMO engine? Medieval setting? FF12: Masturbation battle system -- the game beats itself off (sic), so you don't have to. Diverse Medieval + Technology setting? FF13: ...no clue.
I think that about sums it up. X)
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2009 9:58:58 GMT -5
That's a rather unfair statement which appears to boil down to "Only uneducated gamers who couldn't possibly know any better will see any merit in successful series" I am glad someone else noticed too. Sorry man, but just because you work for a Video Games company, doesn't mean you see games in a better light than anyone else here. Captain is totally right, Final Fantasy isn't hip anymore, and that's why people bag on it. Its a joke. Um, you do know that Final Fantasy III was totally job system based. FF IV was Character and Story based. Final Fantasy V took the elements of both previous games, and fleshed them out to a higher degree. Final Fantasy VI had the espers, and the rate of customization was huge, not to mention the amount of characters in your party was the largest yet. Final Fantasty 7 was 32 bit first of all, then it had the Materia system. Final Fantasy 8 had the most complex system of all, seeing how you had to leech all your magic from enemys, and you were not encouraged to gain levels. Final Fantasy 9 was a return to older themes, but it maintained a charming style all on its own. Those are not very minor differences, and big nasty Corporate Square did a bang up job on all those games. Like I said before, its ok to dislike a game, but I don't value where your getting your opinion from. You don't like Square, and you don't like big name RPG's. That doesn't mean FF XIII is going to be this terrible statistically formulated hung of garbage. To me it just comes off like your pulling all this out of your ass, because you don't like Final Fantasy. Wait for the game to come out, play a bit of it, then knock the shit out of it. I am not saying its good, or bad, and its because I haven't played the game. BTW - Mystwalker, great company, but they have their own issues. Blue Dragon has been fun, but it has its problems.
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Post by psybuster on Jan 29, 2009 11:54:48 GMT -5
FF: Generic RPG engine + story, Make your party, Medieval setting FF2: Character EXP scrapped for Stat EXP system, Static party, Medieval setting FF3: Character EXP returns, Job system, Magic equip/unequip system, Make your static party, Medieval + Pirate setting FF4: Static party, Medieval setting FF5: Make your static party, Medieval + Pirate setting FF6: Massive party with *too few differences*, Esper magic system, Medieval + Technology setting FF7: Massive party, Materia magic system, Sub-futuristic setting FF8: Massive party, Draw magic system, Futuristic setting FF9: Massive party, Equipment magic system, Medieval + Technology setting FF10: ...I haven't played it in so long, that I forgot. Futuristic setting FF10-2: ^ Same ^ FF11: I haven't played this at all. Generic MMO engine? Medieval setting? FF12: Masturbation battle system -- the game beats itself off (sic), so you don't have to. Diverse Medieval + Technology setting? FF13: ...no clue. I think that about sums it up. X) FF10: Pseudo-turn based system, features Sphere Grid in place of traditional levelling. FF10-2: ATB with additional timing-based bonuses, Dress Sphere modifications to Job System used in previous games FF12: Single player version of FF11, seriously. License Board instead of Main Job/Sub Job mechanic, but that's about it.
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Post by Copyrighted Name on Jan 29, 2009 17:17:03 GMT -5
Just saw the trailer on the Fragile thread, and WOW. That game looks like what I WISH FFXIII looked like.
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