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Post by Wanderer From Ys on Mar 20, 2009 14:41:28 GMT -5
It's not the same situation at all, and Square is unjustly singled out. Nintendo dropped the ball by not moving to the CD format, and everyone jumped ship. Take Capcom for example. Their N64 Library consists of Mega Man 64 and Resident Evil 2, both ports of playstation games that had been out for a few years. Or Konami. If it weren't for Castlevania 64 I would've swore they didn't have anything on n64. Square takes the blame, but really it would've been Nintendo holding everyone back. There really wasn't a choice for any 3rd party company.
This is the natural progression, but it's not exactly what we are talking about here. Falcom is willingly take a step backward here. They aren't going from SNES to Playstation so to speak, they are going from Playstation to SNES in order to keep things the same. That's not the natural progression of things, it's decision, and a questionable one at that.
Outselling it at times mean nothing, it's like winning the battle, while losing the war. DS is still way ahead of PSP in Japan. 26m units sold to 11m. The numbers are pretty similar in all other regions as well. Selling more units for 1 week means nothing.
It pains me to say this, but the last few Falcom games would only be accepted on the major consoles if they were Xbox live arcade games for 10 bucks or so. Graphic whoring is out control this gen, and honestly I'm not even sure where it would fit in best among the current consoles. Xbox360 seems to cater most to American PC fanboys, PS3 seems to mostly be a blueray player, and Wii almost requires games to be interactive, plus it has the least hardcore following. I guess 360 has the most jrpgs this gen, but it's doing horrible in Japan, so Falcom would never go for that.
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Post by Varion on Mar 20, 2009 15:07:41 GMT -5
So they were able to basically match their current graphics capabilities My Sora no Kiseki dynamic shadows ;_;
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Post by Varion on Mar 20, 2009 15:12:08 GMT -5
When I tried it it still didn't have the proper shadows though, just the little round ones. Other than that I was impressed at how faithfully they'd reproduced it, though... except for the kanji.
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Post by Varion on Mar 20, 2009 15:30:53 GMT -5
Well, unless they're secretly making a PC version But yeah, I'm more hopeful but even during the regular dialogue for some of the kanji with more radicals it was a case of 'if you know it, you can read it, if you need to look it up... poor you'. Still, haven't tried it via TV output to see what that looks like because I don't actually own any of the PSP versions. Floofy's going to check though so we shall see.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 20, 2009 15:56:26 GMT -5
Perhaps when the 3000 series gets hacked, or in a future firmware upgrade, they'll allow you to stretch the display size to either fill, or widescreen modes -- just like the new DVDs lately!
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Mar 20, 2009 16:43:47 GMT -5
I wanna see some sources for all the sales numbers flying about here. =|
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Post by Wanderer From Ys on Mar 20, 2009 17:47:56 GMT -5
I wanna see some sources for all the sales numbers flying about here. =| The only site you'll ever need. www.vgchartz.com/
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Post by klee123 on Mar 20, 2009 17:51:53 GMT -5
I don't think overall userbase really means much in the end considering that for third parties the PSP is just as viable of a platform as the DS is.
DS games may rule the charts, but the majority of them are Nintendo made games.
The Wii is even in a worse position considering that third party games sell even worse on that system.
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Post by nectarsis on Mar 20, 2009 18:42:58 GMT -5
[ Outselling it at times mean nothing, it's like winning the battle, while losing the war. DS is still way ahead of PSP in Japan. 26m units sold to 11m. The numbers are pretty similar in all other regions as well. Selling more units for 1 week means nothing The funny thing is so many people bash the psp vs DS...there's one thing to remember... NO ONE has come anywhere near the market share vs Nintendo portables in what 20 years. That alone deserves respect. If sony would get their heads out of their assand support the psp better, it would do even better.
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Post by zoothe on Mar 20, 2009 18:45:02 GMT -5
I personally don't have a problem with this. I love (LOVE) my PSP. Not so much for the gaming... that's kinda a plus... but it's a wonderful little system for watching movies, listening to music, and internet. For what it costs vs what it can do, I think it's worth the money.
I have Ys 6 for it and think it played fine. And you have to remember that it was a PORT from the PS2 version.
When you think that Ys 7 will actually be developed FOR the PSP, I would imagine the game would work even better than 6.
Localized version or not, the region free PSP platform will also mean that fans will have no problems purchasing this game. No more sending emails full of credit card info to Falcom... just pick it up on Playasia! I likey.
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Post by undamned on Mar 20, 2009 19:03:09 GMT -5
Well I would surely prefer a PC version for sure, especially since the game would look so much nicer with a nice graphic card (which I have) and a nice HD computer monitor (which I have) and decent sound/speaker setup (which I have) for the sure to be awesome music that will be in the game. But I'm not devastated or anything. I just means that now I'll have to get a PSP at some point (which I don't have). Same boat. I'm hoping that the 480p HD cable will make it look decent on my PC monitor. Traditionally, the Ys games have ALWAYS had separate OSTs, haven't they? I mean, neither Oath in Felghana nor Origin actually came with their own soundtracks... you had to buy them separately (or just listen to the OGG files in the game's music folder!). Do you mean an OST as in the EXACT music you listen to in the game? YsF came with like 8 CD's, but I don't believe any of them were straight rips of the ingame music. I was told when I asked around that it might be my monitor causing the difficulties, and that the game would probably run more smoothly on a non-LCD monitor, or at least a smaller screen... Utter falsity. I'm just going to assume it was a Best Buy employee that told you that. They are notorious for just making crap up on the fly. In fact, my friend and I will sometimes go there just to get into a conversation with an employee and see what tall tales they will try and convince us of. The last time I was there I asked an employee to tell me about "120 Hertz" mode on a particular Samsung TV. He proceeded to explain to me me how it made the colors look better. And the funny part is, they aren't even making a commission, so it's not like they are trying to swindle people, they are straight ignorant or compulsive liars. -ud
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Post by Wanderer From Ys on Mar 20, 2009 19:30:16 GMT -5
I don't think overall userbase really means much in the end considering that for third parties the PSP is just as viable of a platform as the DS is. DS games may rule the charts, but the majority of them are Nintendo made games. The Wii is even in a worse position considering that third party games sell even worse on that system. It matters in terms of sales. Just look at any game that was released on both systems. They sell better on DS because more people have it.
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Post by nectarsis on Mar 20, 2009 21:56:58 GMT -5
Plus the Phantasy Stars are pretty different from each other anyways.
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Post by fuyuko816 on Mar 21, 2009 1:00:19 GMT -5
PSP and PSZ are completely different games. The gameplay is similiar because, well, it's Phantasy Star.
A better comparison would be something like Ridge Racer.
But I agree wyrdwad, too few games match that case.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 21, 2009 1:32:51 GMT -5
Speaking of Monarch Monarch, I can't wait to play it. Is there anything I may need translations for? I know that Lord Monarch wasn't exactly user friendly, haha. Vantage Master was quite accessible, however.
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Post by klee123 on Mar 21, 2009 4:52:42 GMT -5
I don't think overall userbase really means much in the end considering that for third parties the PSP is just as viable of a platform as the DS is. DS games may rule the charts, but the majority of them are Nintendo made games. The Wii is even in a worse position considering that third party games sell even worse on that system. It matters in terms of sales. Just look at any game that was released on both systems. They sell better on DS because more people have it. I think you should check out the media create sales more often. In terms of 3D parties games which caters the hardcore, the PSP is currently doing better than DS in many cases. Which Ys VII so happens to be. S-E and Namco are certainly finding more success with the PSP than the DS at least. There's also more Wii systems than PS3s and 360s in Japan and that doesn't stop PS3 games selling much better than the third party Wii games.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Mar 21, 2009 7:50:45 GMT -5
As near as I can tell, Kotaku seems to be massaging its numbers a bit. The PSP has had a spike in sales that put it over, according to VG chartsz. But I notice that Kotaku counts DSi and DS as different things, but does not count the PSP iterations seperately. Comparing them directly, the numbers are not too far off. Also, It's kinda a pain to look into Kotaku's past hardware sales, due to the search being uncooperative, so I can't say how far back their data and their results stretch. But looking at VGchartz history, the PSP spike is pretty recent and seems to be waning. From what I can tell of Kotaku's history, what nine charts I can find, it seems that they are calling a couple weeks worth of lead dominance, which is kinda misleading, in my opinion. So from what I can find of the histories of the the two the PSP spike is pretty recent in the past couple weeks, and seems to be dropping off for now. So for the past couple weeks, PSP has been ahead. But overall DS tends to outsell it. But, I've only been able to find 9 articles on Kotaku, so nine data points, versus the dozens that VGchartz has. Can you dig me up some more, Wyrdy? I can't get much more love than this.
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Post by Incog Neato on Mar 21, 2009 9:43:13 GMT -5
Perhaps when the 3000 series gets hacked, or in a future firmware upgrade, they'll allow you to stretch the display size to either fill, or widescreen modes -- just like the new DVDs lately! (: I doubt it'll retain the scale ratio properly though. I don't want giant, stretched, blurry images taking up my entire computer monitor. :P It'll stick to the sharp and bright PSP screen! But wait, on second thought, full-screen RemoteJoyLite isn't actually THAT bad so maybe a direct PSP-to-entire-TV-screen output might work out okei. :P Still, I prefer nice and sharp images~!
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Post by Incog Neato on Mar 21, 2009 13:49:42 GMT -5
2008 was VERY DEFINITELY the year of the PSP, at least in terms of hardware sales. But that's mainly because everyone and their goldfish already owned a DS. :3 I don't quite get all the flack the PSP gets. Is it mostly Nintendo fanboys hating on it?
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Post by FM-77AV on Mar 21, 2009 13:52:58 GMT -5
... but I do find it interesting that the only console-exclusive games they've ever produced have all been from their flagship series - two Ys games, and two Xanadu games. This is not true. They only made one Ys game. Ys 4 Mask of the Sun was not made by Falcom, but by Tokyo Shoseki. Falcom DID make Popful Mail for SFC, however. I don't remember which one of PM and Ys 5 came out first, but they probably share a lot of code, as they feel similiar in odd ways. (Scrolling and movement, to be specific). I do not know the details, but I assume that the developer named "Sega Falcom" was Falcom. And if that is true, Falcom also made Popful Mail for Mega-CD, Lord Monarch, The Legend of Heroes 1 and 2 for Mega Drive. Sega Falcom also worked on Ys 4 Mask of the Sun and Brandish 1 for Mega-CD. Both got canned. EDIT: I found a Wikipedia article on Sega Falcom. In Japanese. Via Google Translate, some info can be had. Nothing particularly interesting though. Althouh it does say something about 1995 (the year it was established?) and Sonic. What is that about? Were they working on a Sonic game or something? It also says that they cancelled Ys 4 and Super Brandish because of the Sega Saturn. Damn Saturn! I hate you now! Click!
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