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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Mar 21, 2009 14:11:56 GMT -5
Captain: From that first link I posted, you should be able to get MediaCreate data all the way back to the end of 2006 (there just aren't pictures until you click the links). Observe. And the biggest spike in PSP sales was from, like, March 2008 through like, October 2008, before the DSi existed. Check this out. There's no "massaging" THAT data. The impressive PSP sales continued throughout 2008, until the DSi was released. It was only after that point that the DS finally started outselling the PSP again... and then recently, the PSP has finally begun turning the tables back. 2008 was VERY DEFINITELY the year of the PSP, at least in terms of hardware sales. -Tom Yeah, I'm comparing that to VG chartz now. vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=DS®1=Japan&cons2=PSP®2=Japan&cons3=X360®3=------&start=39460&end=39887From about march til august, they definitely had an edge. I think Nunuu may have hit on why, though. If you look at cumulative sales- vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=DS®1=Japan&cons2=PSP®2=Japan&cons3=X360®3=------&start=39460&end=39887&weekly=1-you see that the DS already had a pretty commanding lead in total sales. You could attribute this to the DSLite and DS, but there's also been three iterations of the PSP as well, so rebuying should be occuring there as well. But, back on point, yeah, PSP did comparitively well over 2008. It wouldn't even be DSi anticipation depressing sales, either, as it wasn't announced until October 2nd. Though I do note that PSP Sales started to drop about the time the 3000 series was announced. And of course, spikes with both releases. Though I note the DSi spike put the DS in a pretty constant lead til the start of march. But even with the PSP's recent popularity, the DS still has about three times as many total sales, which is more important, I'd argue (perhaps incorrectly?) as that represents the total number of people out there with systems that would be able to get the software. (Also this is our best discussion)
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Mar 21, 2009 14:40:25 GMT -5
I don't buy that philosophy, personally, given the number of games that go on to violate it successfully (Eternal Darkness for gamecube comes to mind, for instance), but I'll acknowledge that is probably the common wisdom. Sadly, software sales are a bit tedious to compare. But I'm paging back through www.vgchartz.com/japweekly.phpWeek by week, and it seems DS moves more things as a total. Again, that doesn't really pay attention to the certain type of game for certain type of systems line of thought, though. I'm not really too qualified to take notes on that, too many things I don't recognize. But, even then, yeah, PSP seems to be doing okay for itself, if outdone on the whole. On the graphics end, I'm not qualified to say much. Can you give me some specs to back it up? I recall Seldane stating it was lower end, and I'm usually willing to believe him on graphics, even if he seldanates over 'em.
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Post by Yakra on Mar 21, 2009 14:54:06 GMT -5
EDIT: I found a Wikipedia article on Sega Falcom. In Japanese. Via Google Translate, some info can be had. Nothing particularly interesting though. Althouh it does say something about 1995 (the year it was established?) and Sonic. What is that about? Were they working on a Sonic game or something? It also says that they cancelled Ys 4 and Super Brandish because of the Sega Saturn. Damn Saturn! I hate you now! Click!Totally unrelated to all the the Ys 7 discussion going on, but this just made me remember and wonder something - wasn't Popful Mail originally going to be a Sonic game or something? Or maybe I'm confusing everything once again?
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Post by Falcom Lead Designer on Mar 21, 2009 15:14:16 GMT -5
EDIT: I found a Wikipedia article on Sega Falcom. In Japanese. Via Google Translate, some info can be had. Nothing particularly interesting though. Althouh it does say something about 1995 (the year it was established?) and Sonic. What is that about? Were they working on a Sonic game or something? It also says that they cancelled Ys 4 and Super Brandish because of the Sega Saturn. Damn Saturn! I hate you now! Click!Totally unrelated to all the the Ys 7 discussion going on, but this just made me remember and wonder something - wasn't Popful Mail originally going to be a Sonic game or something? Or maybe I'm confusing everything once again? Yakra Bellgirl, you are correcting! Was going to use assets from Popful Male, and turn into Sonic game about Sonic's Girlfriend/Sister/alike. But Falcom fans rejected idea and revolted in the great rising dough of 1995, and thus was never not unmade. (seriously, you are right.)
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Post by nectarsis on Mar 21, 2009 21:07:11 GMT -5
Going back thru 2008 the psp outsold the DS regulary (well before the DSi). Also the PSP models (especially 2000-3000) aren't as close to the revamp that is DS to DSi.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Mar 21, 2009 23:05:44 GMT -5
EDIT: I found a Wikipedia article on Sega Falcom. In Japanese. Via Google Translate, some info can be had. Nothing particularly interesting though. Althouh it does say something about 1995 (the year it was established?) and Sonic. What is that about? Were they working on a Sonic game or something? It also says that they cancelled Ys 4 and Super Brandish because of the Sega Saturn. Damn Saturn! I hate you now! Click!What you are refering to, might be Popful Mail. Originally, Popful Mail was going to be made for the MD as a game called Sister Sonic. And Mail was going to be Sonic's sister & look appropriatly like a bipedal hedgehog, but Falcom fans cryed bloody murder when Sega Falcom announced this, so, they just made a new version of Popful Mail. I don't know if I have an online source for this, but, it's in one of my old EGM's from way back then.
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Post by FM-77AV on Mar 22, 2009 5:25:16 GMT -5
Wyrdwad: The DS cannot compare to the Nintendo 64 in terms of graphics. Compare Mario 64 on both systems, for example. The DS can barely pull it off. And Mario 64 was hardly pushing the N64!
The DS is more like a Saturn (i e: weaker than a PS1), but not quite as powerful.
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Post by gnosis301 on Mar 22, 2009 8:58:37 GMT -5
On a more positive note, it looks like a lot more Western sites like IGN and Kotaku mention Ys 7 in articles now that it's slated for a PSP release. A little publicity can't be a bad thing, right?
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Post by yotaka on Mar 22, 2009 14:08:37 GMT -5
I predict that all the pissing and moaning will die down right after Falcom gives us our first gameplay trailer and most of the people (here and on Falcom's boards) who have been griping will suddenly do an about-face. To all those people: Where is your faith? Where is your passion? *Continues for ten minutes, Gai Daigouji style* It's Falcom for crying out loud! They will not disappoint.
Oh yeah, and a PC port in the future is pretty much inevitable. If this is a test of a new engine they'll probably want to move it to PC eventually and where better to start than with a game they've already released and can tell exactly what needs to be worked on? Also, we know how Falcom loves releasing goodies for preorders. Much easier to do that for a PC title where you can have a bigger box. Lastly, all the comments about how similar it is to develop PSP and PC titles... if you can go one way, why not the other?
Oh, and since I haven't seen anything anywhere on this site, since they gave us some info on VII did they tell us whether Chronicles is a port of Complete or a remake of I-II?
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Post by Varion on Mar 22, 2009 14:23:01 GMT -5
I predict that all the pissing and moaning will die down right after Falcom gives us our first gameplay trailer and most of the people (here and on Falcom's boards) who have been griping will suddenly do an about-face. To all those people: Where is your faith? Where is your passion? *Continues for ten minutes, Gai Daigouji style* It's Falcom for crying out loud! They will not disappoint. No, we'll just go "FUCK THIS IS AWESOME, WHY IS IT NOT ON THE PC?"
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Post by Varion on Mar 22, 2009 15:51:05 GMT -5
Yeah, what wyrdy said, complete as a base with music and graphical additions. We'll know in 4 days anyway, most likely less as magazines always get leaked. I've got my eye on 2ch.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Mar 22, 2009 20:03:05 GMT -5
Hell no. XD
Ys ETERNAL is not the same as Ys COMPLETE. XD (Only Ys II ETERNAL is nearly identical to Ys II COMPLETE), but they are very alike.
The one that was ported for PS2 is Ys I-II COMPLETE; its name is "Ys I・II ETERNAL STORY". The game also offers 3 game modes: Ys I・II ETERNAL STORY (that has many, many new elements only present in this version), Ys ETERNAL (which is Ys COMPLETE. Confusing, I know. xD) and Ys II ETERNAL (which is Ys II COMPLETE).
About Ys I & II Chronicles we know it "will be based on Ys I-II COMPLETE", but we don't know much more than that. It can mean many things. Maybe they will use it as a base only for the script/story, or maybe the whole game and then only do little changes here and there... we don't really know.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Mar 22, 2009 22:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ranzor on Mar 25, 2009 16:46:16 GMT -5
Well, I gotta say the only thing that really irks me is that Ys SEVEN is coming out for a portable. I like to play games on my TV or my computer, not on some tiny screen. That's why I think it's a step down for the Ys series.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 25, 2009 21:31:47 GMT -5
Hell yeah, spread the word, wyrd!
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Post by undamned on Mar 30, 2009 11:46:11 GMT -5
I like to play games on my TV or my computer, not on some tiny screen. Get a slim-model PSP, and you CAN play on your television. Remember, PSP-2000 has TV-out capability for progressive-scan and HD TVs, and PSP-3000 has TV-out capability for ALL TVs. It's decent-looking, too! Unfortunately, 480p content doesn't look all that clear on my TV (weird, I know. I think it's just limitations in the Sony's SXRD scaling technology. 720p and 1080p look very nice, though). Maybe a good solution for ranzor and I would be to pick up: PSP-2xxx/3xxx Monster GA PSP CVA-8 8-ft. Component CableHD BOX ProHD BOX Pro will take pretty much any video input and output it to your PC monitor (and still look awesome. Beware the other boxes out there that will do the conversion but look like butt). Here's somebody doing what I was talking about with a different box. For people like me who don't have a PSP yet, all of that is quite an investment just to play the new Ys game -ud
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Post by Varion on Mar 30, 2009 19:34:37 GMT -5
PSP output on my TV looks pretty decent, really. Certainly a bit better than I expected, and the best I think you're going to get out of the hardware.
I wish they'd put PSP Plus support into this game though. That'd alleviate a bit of my anger, I think. For those who don't know what that is, it lets you use a PS3 pad to play the game by linking the PSP into the PS3 console.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Mar 30, 2009 19:53:42 GMT -5
I wish they'd put PSP Plus support into this game though. That'd alleviate a bit of my anger, I think. For those who don't know what that is, it lets you use a PS3 pad to play the game by linking the PSP into the PS3 console. That means my PS3 may be useful for something. I hope both PSP Ys games have that.
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Post by Varion on Mar 30, 2009 19:55:05 GMT -5
Nope, it only works with the PSP version of Resistance at the moment, and needs Resistance 2 in your PS3 for it to work. Other games can work the option in, but it's up to the developer if they decide to do so.
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Post by Yakra on Apr 4, 2009 16:26:11 GMT -5
Em......... sorry if this has already been discussed before in some other topic and I missed this. Or I even saw it and have forgotten with my lovely hole-ey memory, but is SEVEN/VII coming out this May 5th?! O___o www.falcom.com/calendar/images/call0905.jpg
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