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Post by rocket on Jul 12, 2007 9:44:23 GMT -5
actually back at the point of rejecting stuff to do just because there is too much. no so much due to feeling pathetic... Pathetic seems to be a term assoated to compareing ones self to others. Simple solution don't compare your self with others and if you want a skill you don't have may it be in gaming practice but specifically find individual weekness and focus on doing better with them. if it is at work go learn what you need to know or would like to know. As odd as this sounds you only feel pathetic because you choose. The exception being someone is egging you on that you are pathetic. In that case it is usually the person is jealous or trying to conpensate for an inability that they have by stroking their own ego. As for the Jack of all trades and the master of none. That may not be a bad position to be. The nice part of the jack of all trades is that you can keep learning little bits in each trade(so to speak) and gain more knowlege and abilities in those trades. just a little pb and j for thought... Remember Life is Good (if you want it to be)
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Post by Cyhirae on Jul 12, 2007 14:59:47 GMT -5
actually back at the point of rejecting stuff to do just because there is too much. no so much due to feeling pathetic... Pathetic seems to be a term assoated to compareing ones self to others. Simple solution don't compare your self with others and if you want a skill you don't have may it be in gaming practice but specifically find individual weekness and focus on doing better with them. if it is at work go learn what you need to know or would like to know. As odd as this sounds you only feel pathetic because you choose. The exception being someone is egging you on that you are pathetic. In that case it is usually the person is jealous or trying to conpensate for an inability that they have by stroking their own ego. I'll be nice and not dive into the mega deep'n dark psychology on this one- but neither case is quite true, MJ. Trust me when I say people can feel perfectly pathetic about themselves and never once have compared themselves to someone else. Same with the 'egging on'. Some people will do that to another person simply because a person who's convinced they're worthless can make a pretty good tool in the right hands. Cold and heartless to say- but it's true. And it's not half as rare as you'd think. Some people don't even realize that's exactly what they're doing to someone else; usually characterized by the "I'm doing this for your own good." mentality. As to jack of all trades vs master of a trade...I'm firmly a jack myself there since I adore versatility....but no denying any such person is up the creek in anything but a home setting when it comes to marketable skills if a 'master' of said trade they're employed in comes along. ....And yes, we seem to have ADD when it comes to concentrating on something...since something else invariably comes to our attention and makes us go "Ooh~ Shiny!" and race after it. And so do projects in progress...get left in progress. Such is the Curse of the Jack (Sparrow..? Oh come on-someone hadda make the pun!).
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Post by rocket on Jul 12, 2007 21:28:03 GMT -5
actually, had just picked through the list of complantes when writing that. was hoping to be a motivation of some sort to any of the issues. Apparently that is not going to help any though.
I guess i must just be valued as a jack of all trades. but the exception to that is i do have an expertise in addition to it.
Do you have anything you would like to add to help motivate the people these issues they have. that seems to be something that you are much better at then i am.
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Post by Cyhirae on Jul 13, 2007 0:02:04 GMT -5
Simple fact~ Nothing you can say or do will ever actually motivate someone to feel better or DO better unless they really actually want to do either of those things, MJ. They have to do that part of the work- then you come in and tell them what they need to hear to really take off. There's vocal/written coddling and there's vocal/written encouragement- coddling comes in when they don't really want to improve but it's getting them attention. Encouragement is about the same set of phrases- just said to someone who wants to make themselves better and need the boost to really get their confidence rolling. Sugar coating facts never works though. They have a nasty way of turning bitter when reality sets back in. I said about all the encouragement I need to in my first post for all it wasn't kind and gentle. That really doesn't go too far when someone needs a nudge.
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Post by rocket on Jul 13, 2007 2:31:28 GMT -5
this is more of a human condition kinda question. this may be a loaded one though. Why do people like to whine about things and make little to no effort to change how they are. Humerously enough your probally right about the silly slogans and pictures. The humerous part is they have been working well for me. every time I see them it reminds me of my next vacation or just makes me laugh. Especially the pics. they are soo goofy. well at at least i will enjoy this:
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Post by Cyhirae on Jul 14, 2007 12:53:46 GMT -5
The reasons behind it are simple enough. People like to vent- sometimes it helps them feel better. What makes venting different from whining?
Venting - telling people you know will care and who will at least attempt to help you through it in some fashion rather than simply offer empty platitudes. This CAN turn into whining at said friends if you refuse to take the comfort, but it usually at least starts with good intent.
Whining - telling people you hardly know (or don't at all), in hopes of gaining attention. Generally this harvests nothing but empty platitudes or "will you just grow up??". Still, it's accomplished its goal usually...it got attention and such a person usually doesn't care if it's good or bad.
Sometimes it's not so much a matter of changing as simply enduring and needing someone to help you do it. Bad things happen to perfectly good people- why should they change just because life decided it was a great time to suck? Getting through things like feeling pathetic for any number of reasons is just like getting through any illness generally: it takes time and endurance, and a willingness not to give up.
I freely admit I don't buy into the "LG" gimmick because frankly: it's too idealistic. Life is life- good or bad, it just is and you live it. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. Trying to always proclaim it good is very much like living in a bubble and refusing to acknowledge when you're hurt. It won't make the bad things go away- it'll just let them build up, unattended to. Or so runs my personal philosophy.
"Life is. Live it and find out what kind you have for yourself."
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jul 14, 2007 14:07:41 GMT -5
"Life is pain, and anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something." -The Dread Pirate Roberts.
Wasn't this whole LG thing an ad campaign?
Also: This line of thought (read: Derail) is all Cyh's fault.
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Post by Cyhirae on Jul 14, 2007 14:18:07 GMT -5
Wasn't this whole LG thing an ad campaign? Also: This line of thought (read: Derail) is all Cyh's fault. Wouldn't know..^_^; I avoid TV and ignore billboards and such when I go out. -And was not!! My post still had plenty to do with 'feeling pathetic. ^_^ It just had to do with a few other things too.
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Post by Razorclaw X on Jul 18, 2007 2:06:52 GMT -5
It's really infuriating when it comes to gaming though. :P It's not so much that I can't get perfect scores or do any spiffy speed plays of stuff, but it's more like I can't even do simple things like avoid getting hit by enemies half the time. I used to be pretty decent at Dance Dance Revolution, then I stopped playing it one day (when it suddenly became more technical and less fun).. and now I'm more out of shape and gained weight (not horribly so, but it now hurts to ride a bicycle). Then I finally realized that playing DDR was what kept me in shape for such a long time, but whenever I play it these days it's almost as if I'm throwing away my money (as in, I can't do the things I know I was able to do in my better days). On the other hand, I think I discovered an alternative in Pump-It-Up... if only I could find a place that actually kept the machine. Psychologically speaking that's a DDR-variant game that I never mastered to begin with, so it doesn't carry the excess baggage of being a game I was formerly good at. I probably fulfill the majority of the signs of clinical depression, but what the hey.
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