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Post by Incog Neato on May 18, 2010 3:11:39 GMT -5
... only available on a digital download service like Steam, would you purchase it? D:
Or would you prefer a console port? DD:
Too lazy to do a poll so post your answers instead! XD
As for me, I wouldn't mind either way. Having Ys Origin on the go would be sort of neat though. ^o^~
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Post by SkyeWelse on May 18, 2010 11:52:52 GMT -5
If it were only offered as as a digital download, then I would still buy it to show my support, however I would certainly prefer to have a physical copy of the game. Download services, download vouchers, they are just too new to be reliable for years to come and I feel that if a service such as that were ever to go under or be cut off, then you would then lose your game permanently.
I haven't seen this happen too many times, however it has happened to me before with a service called Woomb.net which featured several English translated MSX roms, namely Golvellius I & II and Xak: The Art of Visual Stage with a stellar translation. I didn't even have a chance to finish the games before the service ended and the games were lost. There were talks that some of the content might be transferred to places like Project Egg, but that is again, yet another cost of buying the game, as well as a subscription fee if I were to try and get the games again. And of course, the save games would be lost.
Having it on a console, portable or not allows the player the freedom to keep it permanently, and even preserve it permanently, so that's why I'd surely prefer an actual copy over digital any day.
-Thomas
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Post by Incog Neato on May 18, 2010 12:20:39 GMT -5
I feel that if a service such as that were ever to go under or be cut off, then you would then lose your game permanently. For me, this will only be a concern if I ever want to reinstall a game which, 99% of the time, I don't. ^^ But from the sounds of it, it seems like you needed to stay connected to access the content for the games you were playing???? And I completely understand the potential issues with this new method of delivering games to people. I encountered something similar once with EA during their initial, super flakey version of their download service. Hirm! I just discovered that I could play Steam games offline (re: without needing to connect to Steam every time). :O |
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Post by schlagwerk on May 18, 2010 12:49:03 GMT -5
Steam's a pain but I'd buy any releases of Falcom games if that was the only way to do it.
But a couple of years ago I was musing over XBLA ports/localizations of Falcom PC games. It really seems like Falcom writes code that plays well with Microsoft OSeseses, especially how when they had to update games for Vista/7 most of the changes were just to the installer or to the permissions to files that the games wrote to. I betcha their stuff would port easily to XBLA.
The games already support 1080 and 720 resolutions since they're on the PC and scaleable, they'd lend themselves well to Achievements, and time attack would make for some interesting leaderboards.
The publisher could also save money by not having to design/print physical media and could offer the games at a lower price point to lure in new players not familiar with Falcom. Not to mention the weekly releases of WiiWare, XBLA, & PSN all tend to attract media coverage at most gaming websites so it's like free publicity.
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Post by SkyeWelse on May 18, 2010 15:25:00 GMT -5
But from the sounds of it, it seems like you needed to stay connected to access the content for the games you were playing???? Yes, their particular business model required you to download their own proprietary emulation software which would download the game, license it to your PC and allow you to play the game or download bonus content such as translated manuals/booklets that you could get a hold of if you paid an extra subscription cost. The good thing about that side of the service was that I was able to download some very high-quality PDFs of several of the manuals and booklets for Xak I and Golvellius I, II and store them on my personal computer. I still have those backed up fortunately, but the games would only work with their service/application... -Thomas |
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Post by Lumi on May 20, 2010 0:59:50 GMT -5
Short answer: Heck yes.
Long answer: I much prefer owning a physical copy of the game, myself. I really don't like the dodginess of having a digital only copy you can easily be cut off from, depending on any number of factors. It's kind of that whole security blanket thing, you know? I just like knowing I can touch and see the product, and put it where I want it, when I want it.
...But, seeing as it's Ys Origin? I'll buy it any which way. If digital's the only option, well... yeah. I'd buy it, but I'd be sad not to have a real copy.
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Post by Incog Neato on May 20, 2010 1:08:05 GMT -5
Long answer: I much prefer owning a physical copy of the game, myself. I really don't like the dodginess of having a digital only copy you can easily be cut off from, depending on any number of factors. It's kind of that whole security blanket thing, you know? I just like knowing I can touch and see the product, and put it where I want it, when I want it. If, for some reason, a hard copy of the PC version DOES come out and was released by Ubisoft or EA (for example), you could still be potentially cut-off at some point in the future due to their demented DRM and necessity to be connected to their servers in order to even PLAY the bloody games. |
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Post by psybuster on May 20, 2010 1:55:03 GMT -5
For the most part, I'd rather go with Steam these days. No tax in CA (which is already nearly 10%), lots of ridiculously good sales, integrated chat support so you can talk to anyone else on the service regardless of what people are playing, and frankly I don't expect Valve to tank anytime soon (or Stardock and Direct2Drive for that matter). You can still burn backup copies to discs all you like. Without collectibles/bonuses, I feel like retail versions pretty much just waste space in my home. Heck I just threw out a couple crate's worth in old games, burned discs, floppies, etc. from Windows 95-98 era less than a month ago.
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Post by Incog Neato on May 20, 2010 2:05:33 GMT -5
No tax in CA (which is already nearly 10%) You need to come live in Canada (anywhere except Alberta) before you can complain about taxes! :E And just because our dollar is a bit lower than the US one doesn't mean the retail prices of our goods go for any cheaper! (I do see though, on the Wiki, that California has one of the highest sales tax in the US. D: Kind of weird how it varies from location to location in the same state though. Oh wow. The VAT in Europe is pretty scary. Poor Norway. TT) |
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Post by Varion on May 20, 2010 9:07:09 GMT -5
Oh wow. The VAT in Europe is pretty scary. Poor Norway. TT) European VAT sucks ass ;_; Ours is most likely going to go up to 20% next year (if not next month), yuck. I miss Japan's 5% goods tax. To answer the question, yes reluctantly. Physical product or bust is my usual rule unless the price is cheap, but I'd happily pay money for Falcom stuff not on the PSP. Also, Ubisoft's DRM can go to hell. I would never pay anyone for a game that's gimped that badly. |
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Post by Justin on May 20, 2010 14:04:03 GMT -5
As long as it is in English, I play it.
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Post by Lumi on May 20, 2010 16:48:35 GMT -5
Argh, good point about the DRM crap, nunuu. I forgot about that. >.<
Steam doesn't seem so bad, at least. I've only had to make use of it via one game so far, though....
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Post by Ashurei on May 20, 2010 17:50:26 GMT -5
Buh. I am very fond of owning things, but if there was an english US release available only via digital distribution... that's a solid maybe. I own the game and it will be patched someday. I already supported my dear devs when I imported Origin, I don't know about tossing money for a second copy when I don't even get a tangible thing. I'm all for supporting english releases, but I'm also not one to throw money around on multiple copies of a single game. Hell, I know it's unpopular, but I'm on the fence about even buying some of XSeeds Falcom games. I'm really only stoked for SnK. The other three are just like "oh yay I guess" since I already have them. >_>
So yeah, I don't know. :/
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Post by Incog Neato on May 20, 2010 23:25:17 GMT -5
Yeah but it's not like the games are cheapo dollars. :B I mean, if Chronicles and Felghana PSP retail at $30 US a piece, I'll be spending $60 US on games I won't play. :BB
Buy them for me and then give them out as prizes to people. :P
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Post by Incog Neato on May 20, 2010 23:29:16 GMT -5
Yes, but isn't it worth it? Consider it an investment in the future of gamingkind! (: You know what? If they come out as DIGITAL downloads on PSN, then maybe I'll throw my moneys at them because it would mean I won't have 2 PSP cases taking up room on my bookshelves which are already almost out of space. :V I'd think of it simply as a donation. :D |
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Post by Lumi on May 21, 2010 0:44:23 GMT -5
....I bought the SnK games for the computer and they've been looking real purdy on my shelf for years.
I won't talk about the state of Ys Seven. You'll all kill me. T_T
But I'm definitely buying the XSEED releases. Or at least... the first few. If by some strange happening, they wind up sucking? Erh... well, okay- I probably will still buy them, but I might bitch about it. =P
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Post by Ashurei on May 21, 2010 4:44:22 GMT -5
As much as your argument makes sense from your standpoint, so too does mine from my own. I love the games, but I just don't know if I love them enough to buy again, even if I do think of it as an investment of sorts for future releases. I'm not always the wisest with my monies, but I do try to do things that make sense to me. Buying a game I won't play again, again... just seems silly and wasteful.
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Post by Incog Neato on May 21, 2010 9:05:18 GMT -5
Is the dialogue any different in Chronicles than Complete?
(Totally doing the douchebag bit by not searching. XD)
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Post by Justin on May 22, 2010 1:57:17 GMT -5
So what was the point of releasing it? Just as a PSP port that needed a new name, as porting an old PC title is kind of stupid?
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Post by Mutagene on May 22, 2010 3:30:48 GMT -5
Um, the (almost) definitive Ys I&II on the go? What's not to like?
Also, a good english release for once.
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