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Post by yotaka on Feb 11, 2011 16:33:25 GMT -5
They wouldn't package both versions of IV, they'd just remake the whole thing from the ground up taking whatever they liked from each version. In my ideal world this would mean we got Mask's basic story plus the better characterisations from Dawn, along with the increased prominence of the disciples, the expanded Esteria segments (dropping the stuff about the Facts and Darm of course) and badass Karna.
Also, I think the repeated rereleases of I-II have a bit to do with it being extremely easy and cheap to repackage and the fact that doing a full remake would take time away from other things they're working on.
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Post by Este on Feb 11, 2011 21:28:50 GMT -5
I'd love to see Ys IV done using a combo of VII and felghana's play. One member for difficulty but dodging and skill/EXTRA use added. So really, something most like Vs. I just really didn't like how VII's bosses were pushovers on nightmare. Either Origins or Felghana def takes the cake for bosses.
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Post by cercia on Feb 12, 2011 7:29:51 GMT -5
Does it matter is there is a PSP version of Origin or not? It would still be the same game.
Im glad Falcom are now catering for Win 7 users^^ if Nightwolve can make a patch for Chronicles, I won't have to see all that buggy red and blue!! ><
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Post by Mutagene on Feb 12, 2011 12:52:49 GMT -5
I'd love to see Ys IV done using a combo of VII and felghana's play. One member for difficulty but dodging and skill/EXTRA use added. So really, something most like Vs. Take out healing items and I think that would be perfect, actually. Although, I would still want playable Karna. Maybe as an extra mode like in the more recent 2D Castlevanias? Then she could be as badass as she needs to be without breaking the difficulty!
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Post by Rebel40000 on Feb 14, 2011 21:55:00 GMT -5
Does it matter is there is a PSP version of Origin or not? It would still be the same game. Well, yeah. It would give the game a better chance at actually getting an official English release. If Origin is ported to PSP I really hope that XSEED will be on top of that.
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Post by yotaka on Feb 15, 2011 12:55:52 GMT -5
Didn't they mention IV and V in the same tweet? No offense to Origin but I know which of those options I'd rather see them work on.
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Post by HJ on Feb 15, 2011 14:19:05 GMT -5
A straight PSP/NGP port of Origin would be pretty worthless, although it would be sweet if they added voices like they did with Felghana PSP.
I'd still much rather see a remake of IV or V, though. With the Felghana/Origin engine, naturally.
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Post by schlagwerk on Feb 15, 2011 16:26:42 GMT -5
You know, I shudder to think how gimped the Origin boss models would have to be to work on a PSP. They're all so beautiful on PC. Also they rely on more bullet-heavy attacks and I already had enough problems trying to see Gildias's ice in Felghana PSP
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Post by schlagwerk on Feb 15, 2011 18:40:32 GMT -5
That's actually why I'd hope for Origin to be on NGP instead of PSP. Certainly the NGP is capable of handling those graphics, right? Indeed! But the screen and resolution would still be smaller than PC.
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Post by Mutagene on Feb 15, 2011 19:05:55 GMT -5
I think it would make a good PSN title, although a straight port would be a little odd.
In any case, Falcom are already developing something for the NGP, by the looks of it. I can't wait to find out what.
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Post by HJ on Feb 15, 2011 23:39:54 GMT -5
Hopefully not another Sora no Kiseki game, I'd like to see whatever they're making get localized before the next future. Here's hoping for an Ys remake, or Ys Seven v2.
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Post by yotaka on Feb 15, 2011 23:58:54 GMT -5
Well, multiplatform Ys Seven has been hinted at since the beginning and we know they're working on the next Kiseki game as well. By definition the former has to be on something other than the PSP and the latter has to be on the PSP if that clear data file is going to be of much use so you'll probably be getting your wish. Not that it's confirmed multiplat Seven would be NGP, could be PS3 maybe. There's also that new IP they announced the announcement of, which really has me more interested than MP Seven or Kiseki 5... though if they did announce 'Oath in Celceta' that would top my interest charts for sure no matter how cool this new IP turns out to be.
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Post by Varion on Feb 16, 2011 13:34:13 GMT -5
There's also that new IP they announced the announcement of, Wasn't the 'new IP' thing a misquote from a website? It was supposed to be talking about a game to be announced in spring 2011. It was false, yeah. Andriasang was quoting from a 2ch flying get blog which said that, but when the actual magazine came out no one could find any evidence of this 'new IP'. So it's not happening.
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Post by DoubleD64 on Feb 28, 2011 10:05:19 GMT -5
Why's that? Origin honestly doesn't look any better than Felghana, to me. In fact, I'd actually say Felghana is the superior-looking game, as it has much more detailed (and animated) backgrounds. Origin takes place entirely indoors, so it has a rather "sterile" look by comparison. Also, I'd take an Ys IV remake using the Napishtim/Felghana/Origin engine... but I think I'd prefer an Ys IV remake using the Seven engine. With playable Dogi and Karna. And no skill system -- replace that with something simple, akin to Felghana's bracelets. And maybe add jumping, but ONLY if skills are removed, as Alternative Saga just has waaaaay too much going on for my tastes. I just... think that would be a better fit for the game. -Tom Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Origin gets ported to the PSP, but we all know that depends on Falcom's interest. And Wyrd, just how bad (well, no so-bad) is Alternative Saga? It can't be anywhere near as bad as Castlevania Judgement........ can it?
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Post by yotaka on Feb 28, 2011 13:21:37 GMT -5
It's not really bad at all, I think Wyrd was just talking about the fact that the combination of dashing, jumping, blocking, Skills and Ex Skills is a bit too much to handle in a series known for its fast pace and gameplay and that a regular Ys game like a IV remake or an Ys VIII would benefit from giving the player less to do.
Overall it's a fun little romp with some familiar faces, a ton of references to other Falcom properties and an incredible soundtrack. Granted, its story isn't canon and has two standout weird points but it's good enough to move the game along and since it's fully voiced there is much awesomeness to be had... for example, any time Olivier opens his mouth.
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Post by Mutagene on Feb 28, 2011 16:25:53 GMT -5
I've had Alternative Saga since release and completed it 100% within a week or two, and I still play it often. It's really not bad at all; in fact, I think it's the best PSP game I played last year. Zero no Kiseki notwithstanding, but I haven't played that yet anyway...
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Post by schlagwerk on Feb 28, 2011 17:01:41 GMT -5
I've had YvSnK since release and I barely play it. I blasted through story mode with all characters, beat Arcade mode with a few... and was like "now what?". I could grind everyone out to 99 with all upgrades and such but if I want to grind, there are more than enough games out there these days that have more depth to their content to supplement the grind *coughPSP2cough*
It's a versus game so the real value of YvSnK would be in the multiplayer.. that given how niche the series are, is something that I have yet to experience. Closest I got was at least Nuutableflip and I were in the same location at the same time both owning a copy of the game and having it on us. She wouldn't play, though.. something about being infinitely terrible at video games ;P
So the only things left with YvSnK is that uhh.. it makes a good Falcom Greatest Hits player and has a bunch of PSP-formatted backgrounds I can use on my PSP. My current is the classic Maya face hugger image
tl:dr Ys vs Sora no Kiseki is just a fan wank and there's much better Falcom games you should be desiring to play instead
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Post by Mutagene on Feb 28, 2011 22:16:23 GMT -5
This is where my ability to play a game for fun after already doing everything comes in.
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Post by schlagwerk on Feb 28, 2011 23:08:08 GMT -5
This is where my ability to play a game for fun after already doing everything comes in. I'm the type that will still down and replay any Mega Man game, Act Raiser, Super Metroid, Ys III, or any other of my numerous 16-bit games in a single sitting. The difference is that I prefer my versus (I don't want to call YvSnK a fighting game) games multiplayer.
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Post by Rhyanna on Mar 14, 2011 12:29:01 GMT -5
For those of you who have played and understood Origin, how does it compare to the other games in the series? I would love to see a remake for the PSP, i would buy it without hesitation. Lemme just say this: I don't even understand it and I love it. Well, I understand it from context, but... its amazing. It feels like an even better Felghana, more options, and refights with reimagined bosses from Ys 1 and 2. There's nothing not to love!
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