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Post by yotaka on Aug 9, 2011 13:10:11 GMT -5
Falcom has just posted a demo movie. Still under development, right now it's shown playing on an iPhone; crossing my fingers that they'll come up with an Android version as well. I like how they ask viewers if they can tell what stage they're playing. It's The Captive Mage from the classic fifteen. |
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 10, 2011 1:21:28 GMT -5
*begin rant*  Bleh, I was afraid of this! I have no want for a cell phone that plays games, & if I did, it better damn well have a real controller, buttons, dpad, analog pads, the works! I don't want to carry about a game system with me to work, that I end up ruining, & have to get relaced, nor a game system that is download only, making it in the future impossible for me to play my favorite games when the service finally goes kaput! *end rant*  |
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Post by yotaka on Aug 10, 2011 14:04:31 GMT -5
I think that goes without saying. Fans would riot if they had to play the next Ys or (especially) Kiseki game on a tiny phone screen with more limited capabilities than the platforms they're already using. Anyhow, Falcom is working with Aeria with plans to distribute it in English as well through their overseas subsidiary. Not sure who's doing the programming but given that Aeria does mobile gaming and Falcom doesn't (that Ys Nexus project isn't theirs either) I suspect it's Aeria. In any event, Sorcerian is a game that's particularly suited to the kind of distribution methods typically found in mobile games, which is probably why they chose to do things this way instead of putting it on the PSP. Here's hoping they bring back some of the additional scenarios in expansion releases, along with some new ones. |
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 11, 2011 0:25:56 GMT -5
Relax, Falcom's already said they're working on a Vita game. They won't be switching over to smartphone games anytime soon! (I think it's a third-party company working on the smartphone port, too, isn't it?) -Tom Yeah, I know. I'm just not a fan of phone gaming in general. I already have games I'll never be able to play every again on one of my old phones. 1 of them thankfully is Ys 1, & there's plenty of better versions out there, so, no huge loss. The other is Bonk's Return, though, it wasn't all that great, so, no big loss there either, but, that's still one of my gripes with phone gaming, among other things. |
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 11, 2011 0:57:47 GMT -5
Oh cool! I'm actually surprised Falcom didn't start doing this sooner |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Aug 11, 2011 11:25:04 GMT -5
Relax, Falcom's already said they're working on a Vita game. They won't be switching over to smartphone games anytime soon! (I think it's a third-party company working on the smartphone port, too, isn't it?) -Tom Yeah, I know. I'm just not a fan of phone gaming in general. I already have games I'll never be able to play every again on one of my old phones. 1 of them thankfully is Ys 1, & there's plenty of better versions out there, so, no huge loss. The other is Bonk's Return, though, it wasn't all that great, so, no big loss there either, but, that's still one of my gripes with phone gaming, among other things. Wait... Ys I? You bought/downloaded it into your cellphone, but you can't play it anymore?? Really? How come?!  It's not even an online multiplayer game? |
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Post by SkyeWelse on Aug 11, 2011 14:46:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. I'm just not a fan of phone gaming in general. I already have games I'll never be able to play every again on one of my old phones. 1 of them thankfully is Ys 1, & there's plenty of better versions out there, so, no huge loss. The other is Bonk's Return, though, it wasn't all that great, so, no big loss there either, but, that's still one of my gripes with phone gaming, among other things. I was never wild about "phone gaming" before either and I guess it would put a bad spin on it if there were titles that were purchased as downloads that can no longer be accessed... However, after I got an iPhone 4 a few weeks back, it has completely revolutionized how I feel about gaming on a mobile phone device and I'm starting to feel more and more that once you purchase a game or APP on your account, you have access to that game for as long as that service is available and with Apple, I think that may be awhile. There are actually tons of great games on the iPhone that I've come across so far, one of which, Across Age, is made by EXECreate, the makers of the Frane series, which used the bump system like the original Ys. The game plays like a cross between Zelda and the Zwei series with some serious great sounding music, and there are plenty of others in the Action-RPG genre as well that have made me rethink the whole "phone gaming" as a gimmick. Also, there are projects in the works and devices that are out now that aim to make the controls for phone gaming even closer to the feel of holding an actual controller. -Thomas |
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 12, 2011 3:42:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. I'm just not a fan of phone gaming in general. I already have games I'll never be able to play every again on one of my old phones. 1 of them thankfully is Ys 1, & there's plenty of better versions out there, so, no huge loss. The other is Bonk's Return, though, it wasn't all that great, so, no big loss there either, but, that's still one of my gripes with phone gaming, among other things. Wait... Ys I? You bought/downloaded it into your cellphone, but you can't play it anymore?? Really? How come?! It's not even an online multiplayer game? If I still have Ys 1, it's on my old old phone, & last I checked(which was years ago) it was no longer available for download. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Aug 12, 2011 14:26:19 GMT -5
Oh, just not "available for download"... good... Wait.  That's also bad. (But less bad!) Hm..... |
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Post by Century on Aug 14, 2011 11:39:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. I'm just not a fan of phone gaming in general. I already have games I'll never be able to play every again on one of my old phones. 1 of them thankfully is Ys 1, & there's plenty of better versions out there, so, no huge loss. The other is Bonk's Return, though, it wasn't all that great, so, no big loss there either, but, that's still one of my gripes with phone gaming, among other things. I was never wild about "phone gaming" before either and I guess it would put a bad spin on it if there were titles that were purchased as downloads that can no longer be accessed... However, after I got an iPhone 4 a few weeks back, it has completely revolutionized how I feel about gaming on a mobile phone device and I'm starting to feel more and more that once you purchase a game or APP on your account, you have access to that game for as long as that service is available and with Apple, I think that may be awhile. There are actually tons of great games on the iPhone that I've come across so far, one of which, Across Age, is made by EXECreate, the makers of the Frane series, which used the bump system like the original Ys. The game plays like a cross between Zelda and the Zwei series with some serious great sounding music, and there are plenty of others in the action-RPG genre as well that have made me rethink the whole "phone gaming" as a gimmick. Also, there are projects in the works and devices that are out now that aim to make the controls for phone gaming even closer to the feel of holding an actual controller. -Thomas This. Mobile phones have come on leaps and bounds as a gaming platform; it's a little dour of you to disregard it as a platform since many modern mobiles have a phenomenal capacity for gaming (better than the vast majority of dedicated handheld consoles), and developers are becoming ever more serious about using the platform - that can be seen in the calibre of some of the recent games out there. Rather than having a new game in a Falcom franchise developed, though, it's a masterstroke to rehash older classics like Ys and Sorcerian - they can easily be marketed to people who use mobiles as a casual gaming platform and will, at the very least, advertise their games and hopefully win some new fans. In fact, now is very much the time to do it, as soon the competition will be far too stiff. Right now, a well-made game will earn them many fans and many monies. |
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 14, 2011 12:12:36 GMT -5
SkyeWelse is spot on about the iPhone 4 - I was more than a little dubious myself before I had one, but the selection and quality of the titles on offer is above and beyond anything else and when done right it really can rival "proper" gaming platforms.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 15, 2011 0:19:39 GMT -5
iPhone can do TV-out, right? Call me when they make a controller that can attach to the iPhone, because I find games virtually unplayable with touch controls alone. And yes, that includes DS titles.  Give me TV-out and an actual D-pad/analog stick, though, and I'm willing to give it a pass. -Tom This! That's one of my main gripes, no controller. Though, I'm the type of person that likes my games to be on dedicated game machines....not phones. Even that Playstation phone doesn't interest me....though, if I didn't already have every PS1 game I want, that it would. Even still, I wouldn't want to get phone service for it. Generally speaking, I like dumb phones. I use my phone to call people, & since I make music, it's nice to be able to upload mp3's on something I can carry everywhere, & not really worry as much about ruining it. If I carried my PSP everywhere everyday, it'd be busted & junked up. Plus I love physical media. If smart phones were MUCH cheaper, had physical media, & built in controls, then that would be different.....though, that'd just make them an N-Gage |
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Post by Alyindar on Aug 15, 2011 20:44:34 GMT -5
Call me when they make a controller that can attach to the iPhone - a control pad that attaches to your phone! Or my favorite: the iCade, an accessory which houses an iPad and treats it like a small arcade cabinet. Unfortunately developers have to code specific out mapping to either of these, which syncs to the device as a bluetooth accessory, so adoption rates have been slow (and the price of the hardware doesn't help). But they are still some pretty nifty accessories to a growing platform! |
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 16, 2011 3:18:30 GMT -5
The control pad doesn't seem too shabby. If the portable market every dies completely, & all the big wig games I want(none of these cheesy $1 games) are only on the phones, I'd have to give in....though, maybe not. Since there is no physical media, I think that means you need a data plan, which is atleast 30 bucks a month! That's how much I pay for my Internet at home! That deffinitly puts a damper on that  I say this, cuz I was going to replace my phone that is having some problems, with the latest free android when my wife was doing the same(luckily, anything they do charge her is paid by her employer). But, the chick tells me it's required to have a data plan. That's wack, I just want a phone! If I can hook up to wifi like the PSP, that's cool, though I'd rarely use that. But I definitely do not want to be paying more $ just to be able to call people &/or download games.  I really hope that chick was wrong, cuz I would like to have a fully working phone that's free, & it'd be nice to have an adroid for playing music. I work with my music while at work, so it's really handy to take my songs with me. |
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Post by Mutagene on Aug 16, 2011 6:13:56 GMT -5
I applaud Sony for releasing two different versions of Vita, actually -- the 3G-enabled and non-3G-enabled -- and I'm hoping the non-3G-enabled *destroys* its more expensive counterpart in sales, proving once and for all that there is indeed still a market for a dedicated gaming machine. I think that's a little harsh. While I'm sure the WiFi model will have more sales, I think some of the 3G features would be welcome. Sure, a lot of it will be gimmicky, but the always-on connection could open up new possibilities for games. |
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 16, 2011 7:21:19 GMT -5
Always-on connections mean that people can buy games anywhere (and even better, only from your own digital store), so I'm sure even if it doesn't sell very well they'll still want to pursue the idea.
As for still keeping your apps after the data plans over - I've transferred all of my iPhone games over to my iPad without any trouble and without the need for constant online authentication (thanks, Microsoft). It would appear that so long as you've got an iOS device and your account email/password you can do whatever you like.
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 17, 2011 23:09:26 GMT -5
I'm not saying I'd be in a rush to use them either, but it would seem that most people don't mind and companies of course are keen on any service that forces a competition-free sales environment where they set all the prices.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Aug 18, 2011 23:18:32 GMT -5
Oh, from a business standpoint I totally agree. But as a gamer, I'm just... very wary of change, I suppose. -Tom Here here!! |
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Post by yotaka on Nov 19, 2011 19:46:56 GMT -5
Looking good. We've got the classic fifteen scenarios plus the Forever ones confirmed. Hopefully they'll have downloadable or unlockable expansions (Sorcerian's a natural fit for DLC) in the future but even if this is all we get it'll be worth it for a new look at an old favorite. Original's getting just a bit creaky.
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Nov 20, 2011 0:23:55 GMT -5
The original may be creaky, but the Dreamcast version looks pretty damn good! A nice alternative for those of us with no interest in smartfones.  On that topic, can anybody tell me if the game's a fit for a 5-6th grade Japanese reading level? From what I've seen, it doesn't seem very text heavy. --And I've been contemplating the English Dos version, anyway, ever since Working Designs ruined my Popful Mail experience.  |
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It's not even an online multiplayer game?
That's also bad. (But less bad!)
