Best Ys game artwork-wise

[Red Hairdo]

For you, at least!

As for me... I have to go with 'Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys'. I don't think anything else needs to be said.

I'd like to mention a couple more titles/versions that really caught my attention, artwork-wise: 'Ys ETERNAL' (not COMPLETE - I'm mainly with Adol and Dark Fact in mind on this), 'Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim', 'Ys SEVEN' as well as 'Ys vs. SORA NO KISEKI: Alternative Saga'.
Oh, and 'Falcom Classics' and 'Falcom Classics II': that Lilia in particular is TOO good not to be brought up.
'Ys II Special' also had interesting artwork, to say the least.

So, your thoughts?

[Red Hairdo]

So anorexic Dark Fact is better? And blue-eyed Adol looking grumpy as well?

Seriously, grumpy Adol is... horrible. It also looks like he put some kind of make-up on his eyes. It looks a bit emo/gothic-y.

(I speak of their designs/looks in Makoto Shinkai's intro specifically. Outside it, they both look great as always.)

Both just don't suit my tastes very well in there.

[Red Hairdo]

So, no artwork preferences from your part?

[lailmith]

Origin and VI, and some Ys I & II can't remember which I like the most because I'm so confused about those and can't recall the differences olol. Ys Seven art I don't like at all, I just can't stand the looks of Adol & Dogi there :x

[yotaka]

Dawn of Ys for old-school artwork and Ark/Oath for newer artwork.

Also, why is there no love for the X68000?

[Trebia]

Personally, I don´t care.
To me, they are who they are, no matter what appearance they´ve got.
Ys artwork is all beautifull, I didn´t see any artwork that I didn´t like.
Of course, I like some more than others, but I don´t dislike any artwork.

[Trebia]

Why all people dislikes Ys Seven artwork? ;^;

[Trebia]

I really don´t see Baccano!´s relations on the art. Baccano! aproaches more to Lupin III to me.
To me, that style it´s cool, and gives more originallity to the game.
Real anime style it isn´t bad for this game, more if you want to give it more realism to the game.

[Red Hairdo]

Jan 21, 2012 14:12:10 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Why all people dislikes Ys Seven artwork? ;^;

I like (and listed) Ys SEVEN's artwork. Although I personally liked Ys vs SNK's more.

The only Ys Seven artwork I'm not quite fond of is Aisha's regular in-game character portrait shown on the lower-right corner when playing as her. But even that isn't all that bad for me. I really like Aisha overall too.

[Trebia]

Jan 21, 2012 14:50:07 GMT -5 Red Hairdo said:

Jan 21, 2012 14:12:10 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Why all people dislikes Ys Seven artwork? ;^;

I like (and listed) Ys SEVEN's artwork. Although I personally liked Ys vs SNK's more.

The only Ys Seven artwork I'm not quite fond of is Aisha's regular in-game character portrait shown on the lower-right corner when playing as her. But even that isn't all that bad for me. I really like Aisha overall too.

My favorite Dogi is from Ys Seven. Maybe it is because he aproaches to the one of the ova. XD
And they all look so handsome with that style.

[lailmith]

Jan 21, 2012 14:12:10 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Why all people dislikes Ys Seven artwork? ;^;

Well can't say that much for all Ys Seven artwork since I haven't played it. But I have seen Dogi and Adol and I don't think the style at all. Just doesn't fit to my Adol and Dogi picture. Well Dogi is maybe ok or so-so but Adol is a definite no.

Why? Maybe because its a bit too much different from other Ys games? Any idea hows it gonna be in the new Ys IV? I really hope it goes more to old style than this new 7 Adol.. I guess I can bear with odd Seven Adol but making him like that for IV would be

[Trebia]

Jan 21, 2012 16:55:42 GMT -5 lailmith said:

Jan 21, 2012 14:12:10 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Why all people dislikes Ys Seven artwork? ;^;

Well can't say that much for all Ys Seven artwork since I haven't played it. But I have seen Dogi and Adol and I don't think the style at all. Just doesn't fit to my Adol and Dogi picture. Well Dogi is maybe OK or so-so but Adol is a definite no.

Why? Maybe because its a bit too much different from other Ys games? Any idea hows it gonna be in the new Ys IV? I really hope it goes more to old style than this new 7 Adol.. I guess I can bear with odd Seven Adol but making him like that for IV would be

Things must change sometime, right?
For example, if Miyamoto, didn´t change Mario and Luigi´s appearance, we were not be able to distinguis one from other, because, at first, they were the same.
Link appearance changed so much, too. At first, maybe you are not convince, but when you play the game, you can see the appearance fix it.

[lailmith]

Jan 21, 2012 18:39:26 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Things must change sometime, right?

Do they?
That much?
Why the negative change?
And why change something thats good already?

And for the last sentence, (would like to use the Finnish version here as it sounds better) "your eyes ll get used to it". No matter what change, negative or positive, your eyes ll get used to it and bring it close to normal.

I watched some Vita Ys IV videos... Is the look now even worse? If I didn't knew it's Adol, I wouldn't know it is Adol..

[Trebia]

Jan 22, 2012 6:04:19 GMT -5 lailmith said:

Jan 21, 2012 18:39:26 GMT -5 Trebia said:

Things must change sometime, right?

Do they?
That much?
Why the negative change?
And why change something thats good already?

And for the last sentence, (would like to use the Finnish version here as it sounds better) "your eyes ll get used to it". No matter what change, negative or positive, your eyes ll get used to it and bring it close to normal.

I watched some Vita Ys IV videos... Is the look now even worse? If I didn't knew it's Adol, I wouldn't know it is Adol..

If you don´t like it, that doesn´t mean other people don´t like it. Negative change maybe it´s for you, but for me, it´s good.
My eyes don´t use to nothing. I told that there is a long time since I don´t care about the appearance of the character. Why? Because there exist a thing that calls personality. Sincerely, I see a lot of people care more about the appearance than how is a person. And you can see it with fictionasl characters, too.
Just looks at this guy:

SPOILER: Click to show

I can tell you it´s not my type, but he is my favorite character of all Lodoss. Why? Because of his personality.

Why change good things? Because changes are necessary. Maybe the new fans generations will not like the old Ys design. Why? Just for the stupid thing that it´s old. That´s why they change the things. Because they want to have all fans satisfied. But if people don´t like this, and don´t like the other...*shrug of the shoulders*. Well, people is not perfect, and game designers are not God.

[lailmith]

^ I never said that if I don't like sth other should dislike it too

As for the changes being necessary, I'm not that sure The main point I think is how large the change is. To me, in this case, at the moment it feels the change is too large, thats why my reaction is what it is.

Trying to satisfay all fans is same as trying to do the impossible unless the fanbase is really really small.

I'm not sure you understood the eye part, but I'm not going to try explain it better, because I suck at explaining it especially in English

Well, maybe we should get back to the topic?

[Trebia]

The changes are neccesary to attraack more fans to the game.
You just need to get used to it. People doesn´t get used to things at the first time.
Yeah, I know it´s impossible, but they try. That´s why I love Falcom.
I think I didn´t understand well. XD
OK. =3

Well, as I said, I don´t dislike any, but my fav designs are The Oath in Felghana, Ys Vanished Omen, and Ys Seven.

[lailmith]

Jan 22, 2012 8:58:23 GMT -5 Trebia said:

You just need to get used to it. People doesn´t get used to things at the first time.

That was the idea of my eye comment
I haven't played Seven at all so I haven't got used to this new Adol. I don't know how to explain in English what I don't like about this new Adol look. If some1 can find the words to explain the main differences about old and new looks, I might be able to point my idea too.

I like Ys Anime characters art but I don't think I liked Dahm tower and Salomon Shrine. Ohh yea, but this was about the games xD

[Trebia]

Jan 22, 2012 9:12:59 GMT -5 lailmith said:

Jan 22, 2012 8:58:23 GMT -5 Trebia said:

You just need to get used to it. People doesn´t get used to things at the first time.

That was the idea of my eye comment
I haven't played Seven at all so I haven't got used to this new Adol. I don't know how to explain in English what I don't like about this new Adol look. If some1 can find the words to explain the main differences about old and new looks, I might be able to point my idea too.

I like Ys Anime characters art but I don't think I liked Dahm tower and Salomon Shrine. Ohh yea, but this was about the games xD

I understood. XD
At first I had the same reaction as yours. Juts give the game an oportunity, and you will see it is one of the best games you ever played, and the characters are awesome.
Yeah, the Ys Anime ovas syle is my fav. XD
I´m not saying Dogi looks handsome( at first, I didn´t like him XD), but the design is very cool. He just looks like the strong, big, funny and kind guy he is, and that´s why I love that design. ^^
They just fixed it.

[lailmith]

^My first impression when I saw Dogi in Ys ova was "Is that supposed to be Dogi?! No way!!" but then I started to like it. Dark Fact and Adol were the best in Ys anime - took a bit time to get used to Ys II anime Adol after Ys I ova Adol though

[Trebia]

Same as me, but I didn´t know any of Ys the first time I saw the ova. XD
Adol is so cute there, I want to hug him and Dogi every time I see them. XD
About Dark Fact it is a really cool design. It makes you scary.
Talking about Ys II, that´s when I say Dogi is really, REALLY handsome. I wished he appeared more. XDDDD Ys II design to me, looks like the second Lodoss series. It is not bad to me.