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Post by Trebia on Feb 4, 2012 9:49:59 GMT -5
I just want to know why Falcome give that strange names to the characters. First: About Adol Christin: When I was talking with my mother about Ys, she saw the read haired swordman. She asked me: "What is his name""? I said: he is Adol Christin.... I was dumb when my mother looking at me ungry. My mother: "did you say Adolf!?" Me: It´s A-D-O-L, not Adolf. Don´t compare me one thing with another, Adol doesn´t kill people, he saves them, and he is good! I just tell her the Ys story until she realize it. -About Dogi: My cousin when she saw Ys: -And who´s the character you like. It is the red-haired? Me: I like Adol(again the same conversation I had with my mother), but the one I like is Dogi. -My cousin: "Dogi? It is a dog " -Me: ¬¬ No, he doesn´t, he is a man! -My cousin: " And why he´s call Dogi? -Me: I don´t know. ;^; -Luther Gemma: -My father(suspicious): why all the characters has german names? -Me(facepalm): Dogi is from swezerland(sorry if I wrote bad, I don´t remember), and Esteria is in France, not in Germany. ¬¬ So, please, why Falcome gave them that names? I readed that they even change the Adol´s name to Adle in English dub, because it was familiar to Adolf, but I don´t realize the creator call him Adol because of you now. So...Why?
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Post by lailmith on Feb 4, 2012 10:33:01 GMT -5
I just want to know why Falcome give that strange names to the characters. Ys is rpg. RPG rule = strange character names.
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Post by yotaka on Feb 4, 2012 11:26:46 GMT -5
You're forgetting that this is a Japanese company. As a rule of thumb, names are picked because they sound cool over realism or any other external factors. If you want a world where the names make more sense, try the Kiseki series where they put huge amounts of detail into everything. Ys they're much more free with. See Ys V for example; it's set around real-world Egypt and gives us diverse names such as Ni(e)na, Stan, Terra, Foresta and Rije...
Also, I suspect the OVA dub was more a case of nobody involved being quite certain how they should pronounce Adol rather than trying to avoid any particular one. There's even a blooper clip or two where the actors mess it up... although with some of those it's clear they're doing it on purpose so who knows.
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Post by Trebia on Feb 4, 2012 15:27:22 GMT -5
Lailmith: it is not about if it´s rare, or not. I am the first peron who give strange names to my characters. For example, my nick at DA is Thalis Eukrona, and one of my characters is call Láidir. You're forgetting that this is a Japanese company. As a rule of thumb, names are picked because they sound cool over realism or any other external factors. If you want a world where the names make more sense, try the Kiseki series where they put huge amounts of detail into everything. Ys they're much more free with. See Ys V for example; it's set around real-world Egypt and gives us diverse names such as Ni(e)na, Stan, Terra, Foresta and Rije... Also, I suspect the OVA dub was more a case of nobody involved being quite certain how they should pronounce Adol rather than trying to avoid any particular one. There's even a blooper clip or two where the actors mess it up... although with some of those it's clear they're doing it on purpose so who knows. I understand that japanese put names because they´ve got a meaning. I know they don´t give names without a sense. That´s why I want to know why someone with a strong sense of justice, good, kindness and gentle like Adol, has that name, because I can´t scarcely imagine they gave Adol the name because of Adolf Hitler, seriously, I can´t accept that. Maybe they gave him the name for another reason, and I just want to know it. About the ova, yes, my mother doesn´t pronounce the name well, it´s hard to pronounce the name without an F, until you get used to it.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Feb 4, 2012 17:31:28 GMT -5
The names themselves I think are just European in general, I don't know that there's alot of Germanic names, though, I'm no expert. And I'm pretty sure technically Luther Gemma is actually Luta Gemma. I think Luther is Germanic, but I'm not so sure about Luta. I'm going to go off on a limb, & assume that Luta is based on the instrument the lute, which, IIRC, Luta Gemma is seen playing or holding in the games & artwork.
Also, Adolf & Adol are pronounced differently, as the "Ad" in Adol is pronounced like the word "add". while the "Ad" in Adolf is pronounced like the word "aid".
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Post by cercia on Feb 4, 2012 17:56:23 GMT -5
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Post by Trebia on Feb 5, 2012 16:43:39 GMT -5
It´s probable what you two say. Thanks for the info. =3 I want to know it, to. ;^;
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Post by lailmith on Feb 5, 2012 17:02:03 GMT -5
Maybe they played roulette to pick up the letters for the name? I mean, there might not be any specific awesome meaning for it except 'It just sounds cool enough'.
Yeah, I'd like to know about names too. And a lot other stuff.
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Post by Trebia on Feb 8, 2012 11:09:47 GMT -5
Lailmith: Japanese don´t do that, I can ensure it. I learned it from a book about how to draw anime a long time ago.
Omgfloofy: Thank you. ^^ I didn´t knew about that, it´s interesting. =3 Thinking on it, it´s true, because you thinkking on the girls, and Elena, Tia, and Aisha finish with /a/, too. Except Sigroon. .-.
I don´t know if it´s a coincidence, or not, but the girls that are in my fanfic, have names finish with /a/ sound, too. XD
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Post by lailmith on Feb 8, 2012 11:25:44 GMT -5
Japanese don't do what?
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Post by lailmith on Feb 9, 2012 9:21:44 GMT -5
Japanese don't pick random names only because they sound cool? I find that hard to believe There must be some Japanese people who do that!!
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Post by cercia on Feb 11, 2012 13:43:19 GMT -5
This reminds me I have to play VI again, I haven't seen Olha & Isha for ages.
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Post by Trebia on Feb 12, 2012 16:51:30 GMT -5
I want to start it, but I must finish Ys Seven. ;^; Lil: nope. It´s because they´ve got a meaning.
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Post by cronorei on Feb 23, 2012 6:22:33 GMT -5
I think you might be pronouncing Dogi wrong if people think you're talking about a dog. It's not like Doggy its like dogi the martial art outfit. Dough-gee basically
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Post by Trebia on Feb 23, 2012 10:48:29 GMT -5
I think you might be pronouncing Dogi wrong if people think you're talking about a dog. It's not like Doggy its like Dogi the martial art outfit. Dough-gee basically Here, in Spain, it´s read just Dogi. But when I´m talk in english, I pronounce it well. Maybe is that.
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Post by Arjak on Feb 24, 2012 15:17:04 GMT -5
Wow, I can understand your family not liking Hitler, that's understandable, but when they start complaining about there being too many Germanic sounding names in a fantasy game taking place in a stylized Eurasia, it starts to sound a little racist, no offense.
It's bad enough that a once-popular German name has been so be-smudged by one man that people try to avoid using it as much as possible, but the idea of hating a name just because of where it comes from, it kind of drives me a little bonkers. I never even made a connection between the names Adol and Adolf until I read about it somewhere; I try to judge people based on actions, and not something of face-value.
Again, I mean no offense towards your family. I just get a little frustrated by these kinds of things.
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Post by Trebia on Feb 24, 2012 17:21:27 GMT -5
Don´t worry. It´s not about where it come from, my parents know all the story about Hitler(because they studied story),and hate it, as well as me. And they told me a lot of times that, if a person is German, that doesn´t mean he/she is nazi. They told me later that Adolf is a normal name, too, if Ys it wasn´t related with is.
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Post by Andrew LB on Jun 18, 2012 18:34:54 GMT -5
While I have not played all Ys games, just Origin, I & II (TG-CD), Complete I & II, Ys III (TG-CD)... the germanic name thing never really crossed my mind. What did however was how many names and locations are associated with being Jewish (Hebrew) and/or the Old Testament of the Bible.
Solomon Shrine = Temple of Solomon Cain Fact = Cain, son of Adam & Eve who murdered his younger brother Abel Saul Tovah = King Saul Sarah Tovah = Sarah, wife of Abraham. Mother of Issac. Reah = Leah? Wife of Jacob? Jevah Tovah = Hebrew name
I'm sure there are more, but that was off the top of my head.
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Post by korzic on Jun 18, 2012 19:02:48 GMT -5
While I have not played all Ys games, just Origin, I & II (TG-CD), Complete I & II, Ys III (TG-CD)... the germanic name thing never really crossed my mind. What did however was how many names and locations are associated with being Jewish (Hebrew) and/or the Old Testament of the Bible. Solomon Shrine = Temple of Solomon Cain Fact = Cain, son of Adam & Eve who murdered his younger brother Abel Saul Tovah = King Saul Sarah Tovah = Sarah, wife of Abraham. Mother of Issac. Reah = Leah? Wife of Jacob? Jevah Tovah = Hebrew name I'm sure there are more, but that was off the top of my head. A couple more that might not be immediately obvious are Zalem (Salem) and Sion/Syon/Shion (Zion).
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