Alright, we're getting there! 19 tracks of 31 done so far, I think by tuesday evening, we'll have this done and ready to go! Which reminds me...
Wyrdwad, I need a moderator to answer this for me, once the installers are ready to go, as they will include the music in their packages, will they be okay to link here in the forums?
I should note these installers will include a disclaimer, that goes something like this:
"This package was made for those who want to be able to enjoy the music of Ys Chronicles with an english language version of Ys. We request that anyone who use this package support Falcom by actually purchasing a copy of Ys Chronicles, or if you don't have a PSP, other Ys related items like the games, soundtracks, and soforth, in order to do your part in supporting Falcom."
Gotcha. Small update, looking at some tracks. I don't think I have any fancy tricks to make the credits theme fit in Complete as is, since the original song had to loop multiple times, and due to having lyrics, the Chronicles version isn't quite so loop friendly, so I'll just be having it play full length, fade out, and repeat for the credits. Not the best solution, but I can't think of any other way to really include it besides this.
Everything else should work fine, though Pressure Road gave me some trouble. I'll likely start posting status updates in a reply after this one when I resume work tuesday, right now I'm tired and need a break. z.z
Yeah, I think so too. How much more time does it need to fit in nicely? Maybe you could extend an instrumental part by doubling it, also.
EDIT: I actually went ahead and saw the ending of Ys II and you're actually wrong. The credits theme doesn't loop at all. Actually, the track has some 4:34 minutes but I think it's actually cut before that, near 4:26. The Chronicles version is actually longer, clocking in at 5:11, so you just need to fade out the track at the right time. Also, don't forget that the ending theme is A Still Time, the one that plays after the battle with Darm. Then, comes the credits track, Stay With Me Forever, and then Open Your Heart, the title screen music, at the ending screen with the two godesses.
Belatedly, I noticed that yeah, the credits theme from Chronicles WAS too long. Apparently the ending was slightly extended for the PSP version with a new cutscene, and the song was lengthened to reflect that. So yeah, it's just a tad too long for the ending. Ah well.
Track replacement won't really be an issue as far as knowing what goes where, ironically because the Chronicles rip has the same track ordering as the PC soundtrack, so don't worry about that issue. All the songs are in place and replacing what they should, it's just a matter of finishing the loops at this point. Which I'm HOPING to get done tonight. Late tonight or tomorrow we should have some installers uploaded and ready for your usage.
Due to the fact this is just installing music files and whatnot, I don't think an uninstall will be possible for this conversion/addon/whatever you want to call it. However, a disclaimer/warning WILL be in the installers reminding you to backup or rename your existing WAVE_44 folders to prevent losing any files, as the folders WILL be overwritten during the install process if they're already there. That said, the light at the end of the tunnel is in sight! About 10 tracks left from my last examination of the files, once those are done I just need to go back and trim one file that runs way too long in Ys1 (The credits again, lawl) and see about trimming Ys2's credits theme as well (Though in this case since it fades itself out when the screen fades to the goddess scene, it may not really be needed).
Once everything's ready to go, I'll be sure to provide notice and links. As for how the installers will work...Much like Deuce's installer (though we compiled our own for this, trust me ;P) our installer will contain compressed files (MP3s) straight from the Chronicles rip that was posted here (I think, I was given the impression it came from here) and then decompress them to the appropriate locations, along with the .pos files. Just remember, BACKUP YOUR WAVE_44 FOLDERS OR RENAME THEM FIRST!
And to avoid a second and unneeded bump/reply/etc, here's the progress list.
Hell with a progress list, I'll just do this cause it's shorter. One track left on Ys2, a track to fix up slightly and one to trim on Ys1. The light at the end of the tunnel is blinding now, folks.
Last Edit: Aug 18, 2009 18:59:54 GMT -5 by fortemp3
Yeah, wave_44 is DVD version music, though you don't HAVE to have the DVD version. It still works on the CD version as well (I'd know, that's what I have.)
Anyway, like I said guys. LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
This is finally close to completion! I'm going to go back and see if I can remove the "pop" from the Palace loop, trim the Ys1 Credits theme, finish the last track on Ys2, then send everything to my buddy to compile installers. Soon, everyone.
And...Aside from Palace which I decided I would work on later when I had patience (It's a minor loop issue anyway, you'll barely notice it and all it'll need is an updated .pos file) I now declare the .pos editing portion of the Ys Chronicles to Complete music conversion...
I'm sending stuff to my friend right now for the installers he'll be compiling. He's going to try and add a feature to rename existing WAVE_44 folders as well to support a proper uninstall if you really want to do it that way, so hopefully everyone'll be happy in the end.
That said guys, we've hit the light at the end of the tunnel. All that's left now is compiling some installers and this project is officially COMPLETED!
That said, I'd like to toss out a few thanks here on the forum.
Nightwolve-This wouldn't have been possible without your POS File editor. Nor would playing Ys 1&2 Complete in English.
omgfloofy-For pointing me to this forum after I brought up how I wish I could use the Chronicles music in complete. I had no idea there were others wanting to do this, and sure enough I was pointed here.
Firehawke-For compiling the installers and helping test them.
Wyrdwad-For providing save files.
lanzoru-For the info provided, as well as helping keep this thread alive.
koa-For the offered assistance. What can I say, I probably SHOULD have taken you up on it, but thanks for the offer man.
If I forgot anyone that should be mentioned, thanks to you guys as well, I just can't think of everyone's names at the moment I guess. Whew. This was quite a ride.
Once testing of the installers for 1 and 2 are done, I'll provide download links.
Everyone? Thanks again for helping out in making this conversion a reality.
And remember, please, PLEASE buy a copy of Chronicles or other Falcom merchandise in order to support the company. This project was mainly done to give people a chance to hear the Chronicles music on an english build of Ys, NOT to simply let you skip out on buying Ys Chronicles. Thanks.
I figured this'd be a good a time as any to stop lurking and give some information. We honestly thought it'd be out tonight, but there was about two hour's delay on the whole process-- from my end.
I'll skip a lot of the technical details and summarize. I've retrofitted an installer system to do audio decompression and put things where they need to be, but I hit a lot of snags in two areas: handling an already-existing wave_44 set and uninstallation under those circumstances.
I had the thing 99.99% ready tonight, then I hit a major roadblock in testing that forced me to completely rewrite a large chunk of the installation scripting. I did test my rewrite subsequently, and it worked fine-- however.. I do not trust this work on simply a single test. I honestly do not wish to hear anyone say my packages damaged their Ys Complete install. Especially with the mental calisthenics required for this installer engine to do what I'm having it do.
As such, I'm going to have Forte do an additional test on his rig tomorrow and verify that both Ys 1 and 2 are working as they should, with uninstallation and so forth. Once he verifies the files, he's free to put them online where you all may enjoy it.
I hope you will be happy with the work we have accomplished. This wasn't the easiest of retrofits. Thank you all for your patience. Thank you all for being fans of Falcom's work.
Instructions-Simply run, and they will automatically point to your Ys 1&2 Complete install. Be sure to READ THE README people! It has important stuff in it! Also, while we've designed these to NOT replace your wave_44 folders, you should probably still back them up anyway. Y'know, just to be on the safe side.
REMEMBER. If you are not using Deuce's custom soundtrack or the DVD version of Complete, you need to install BOTH SOUNDTRACKS or else you will lose music to whichever game you do NOT install a soundtrack for, since Ys Complete will assume BOTH games have a wave_44 folder after you install one of these soundtracks. That said, this is our little labor of love to the Ys community. We hope you all enjoy it.
Also, due to the fact Megaupload links are never known to stay up 100%, I do have a request. If anyone here has a place that can spare bandwidth, I would like to request some mirrors for these files, as the only mirror we could offer has limited bandwidth and thus wouldn't be ideal as a download location. This is why I went with Megaupload for the time being, but...Yeah. If anyone wants to mirror these? Let me know, and we can arrange something.
Last Edit: Aug 19, 2009 12:28:25 GMT -5 by fortemp3
Awesome job with the patch! I bought Chronicles but it's nice to play it in english with the kick ass soundtrack. Thanks!
I dunno if it's the installer or what but I actually had a save where the music wasn't right in the Goddess's Palace. I had to switch the names for tracks 29YS124.WAV and 28YSS003.WAV.
Whoops! We must have had some kind of mixup in the file naming process there. Well, yeah, it's easily fixed by swapping the file names. We'll try to get a fixed version of the Ys2 installer up soon to handle that issue.