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Post by abaddon on Jul 20, 2012 13:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 20, 2012 13:41:47 GMT -5
Because there's always some jerk who can get a gun.
OH COMMON! Just because someone takes a gun and goes mad doesn't mean..
Like seriously! Not everything are to be linked to Terrorism goddamnit!
These kind of things piss me off to no end which is the reason I don't read the news. I wonder what caused this person to go do this. What pushed him over the edge?
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Post by Sinful on Jul 20, 2012 13:51:51 GMT -5
I wonder what caused this person to go do this. What pushed him over the edge? Probably the fact that so many people are supporting total shit Batman flicks, would be my first guess.  |
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Post by abaddon on Jul 20, 2012 13:52:00 GMT -5
It was a confined place with a lot of people, and I bet he was angry at the world or something. Guy who did this was an amoral opportunistic scumbag sociopath. EDIT: Sinful, NO. That was in incredibly poor taste.  |
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 20, 2012 14:23:02 GMT -5
I can understand angry at the world.
Sometimes I want to burn down the entire town I live in.
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Post by lailmith on Jul 20, 2012 18:38:01 GMT -5
Because there's always some jerk who can get a gun. One doesn't need a gun to kill. But yea, that is right, he probably used a gun because he could get one. But who/what to blame? Movies? Games? Media? Guns? Why did he do that? Insanity? Angry at the world? Something else? Just because someone takes a gun and goes mad doesn't mean he is a terrorist. Just because someone takes a gun and starts killing people doesn't mean he is insane. oh wait a sec.. |
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Post by Sinful on Jul 20, 2012 19:15:38 GMT -5
People are angry at the world/do these things because they weren't raised right. Not vidoegame, movies, or etc, because as far as I'm concerned, people that have good hobbies such as this have very good reason to escape the evil world we live in with them/deal with it much better... while other that don't have anything else can't think of anything else but to drink alcohol, do drugs, kill people, etc.
But here is another problem. Sometimes a parent can only do so much, as most of their influence may come from school & rest of society/pressures of real life/etc. Again, not videogame... maybe Batman movie? >_> ... And when I was in school, kids were freaking soulless jerks. So much so that I can very well understand why some of these kids have killing thoughts. ... lol, I recall my friend said once he'd rather be in the US getting beat up at school hardcore everyday then live in Canada. He even said his brother even someone getting their head blown away in front of him at school.
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 20, 2012 19:37:08 GMT -5
They are still soulless jerks and they have been that since the dawn of time.
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Post by tancients on Jul 20, 2012 22:53:12 GMT -5
He was working on a Ph.D. in neuroscience. Most of the people you're talking about never really had the capability to amount to anything.
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Post by zeomare on Jul 21, 2012 8:45:16 GMT -5
they are looking for links to the movie he has claimed he was the joker to the police i can see once again the media is looking for excuse's  It is in reality is just another sad chapter in our society now a days, i do not think the movie had anything to do with it. He seemed like a very smart guy from what they are saying could have turned his life into something i will never understand why people do these sort of things my heart and prayers goes out to the families and all those affected chris |
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 21, 2012 9:44:17 GMT -5
No, the movie had nothing to do with it.
As we can see, he was working on a ph.D in neuroscience, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to conduct an experiment with this stuff. But my personal view is that he probably got struck with the harshness of reality, how we'll never be able to repay his student debts or stuff like that and in a moment of panic, went out to decide all of this.
At least that would be my interpertation.
Which is probably wrong.
Even if we look at the comments from the other "He was a loner, no one knew him", I call bullshit on that. I will not believe this comments for a second. Last time I went to school, I was somewhat of a loner myself because my only goal were to study my grades up (shit happens though). So who says he hadn't chosingly been a loner just to ace this?
That never comes out, instead we're treated to an image of an insane person who just stayed at home, planning murders. I, for one, am not buying it. There just has to be more reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if he was bullied either.
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Post by tancients on Jul 21, 2012 15:14:48 GMT -5
My initial assumption was similar to yours, Zeithri. Perhaps a social experiment, or to test the waters of current systems and see how other people's minds process clues and information.
From a less humanitarian perspective, it sounds like an absolutely delightful experiment and study on the cattle and sheeple of the species.
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 21, 2012 16:44:36 GMT -5
Something like that. The very first statement they ever left was after all " Not connected to TERRORISM". Except this is incorrect. If we look up the world Terror; 1. Intense, overpowering fear. See Synonyms at fear.
2. One that instills intense fear: a rabid dog that became the terror of the neighborhood.
3. The ability to instill intense fear: the terror of jackboots pounding down the street.
4. Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes.
5. Informal An annoying or intolerable pest: that little terror of a child.
1. great fear, panic, or dread
2. a person or thing that inspires great dread
3. Informal a troublesome person or thing, esp a child
4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) terrorism
Terror by itself is the fear of things. Fear of guns for example. USA is a country of Terror itself because of it's high violence and people who have guns. It is said to be more guns than people in the US. This is by all forms of the definition, Terror. But what Terrorism is today, is some douches in the desert. So for that, it's always extreamly important in news to say that line " There are no links to Terrorism as of yet". I find this ridicilous that the fear of that is bigger than the fear of themselves or such. So, yes. Tragic. But no one will remember what caused it, they'll only remember the end. |
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Post by lailmith on Jul 22, 2012 7:44:27 GMT -5
Something like that. The very first statement they ever left was after all " Not connected to TERRORISM". Of course. When something like this happens it is easy to believe that the person who did it is 1) terrorist 2) insane 3) both So its important to take two out. He is insane. That is all what is left. Normal people don't do stuff like that. Not everyone is terrorist. Not everyone is insane, at least not that much, yet. |
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 22, 2012 8:52:15 GMT -5
Of course. When something like this happens it is easy to believe that the person who did it is 1) terrorist 2) insane 3) both So its important to take two out. He is insane. That is all what is left. Normal people don't do stuff like that. Not everyone is terrorist. Not everyone is insane, at least not that much, yet. No, It's because these years people scream " A terrorist!" at the least bit thing that happens. It has nothing to do with insanity or not - It's simply because this is what people fear the most. With the whole " Insane" part, that's just as you say. " A normal person would never do this." But how do you know? Have you ever been pushed to the very limits of yourself? This is only what people say because they need to make a line of " them" and " me" because the truth of that this person might be fully sane is far to uncomfortable for them to know. |
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Post by lailmith on Jul 22, 2012 9:18:41 GMT -5
Of course. When something like this happens it is easy to believe that the person who did it is 1) terrorist 2) insane 3) both So its important to take two out. He is insane. That is all what is left. Normal people don't do stuff like that. Not everyone is terrorist. Not everyone is insane, at least not that much, yet. No, It's because these years people scream " A terrorist!" at the least bit thing that happens. It has nothing to do with insanity or not - It's simply because this is what people fear the most. With the whole " Insane" part, that's just as you say. " A normal person would never do this." But how do you know? Have you ever been pushed to the very limits of yourself? This is only what people say because they need to make a line of " them" and " me" because the truth of that this person might be fully sane is far to uncomfortable for them to know. It is important to say 'not terrorist' because that is one of the first things that comes to people's minds about this stuff. And they need something to scream about. I wasn't talking about myself really but in general. I don't know if he was sane or insane. My thoughts exactly. People have a need to feel comfortable. That is why they refuse the truth and lie to themselves and make false assumptions etc. It feels more comfortable to believe that nobody we know (normal) would do those terrible things. Knowing that it could be me or you, or the person closest to us, doesn't feel very comfortable. |
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 22, 2012 9:27:42 GMT -5
~ nod nod ~
I agree with that you say. That is the same I said.
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Post by lailmith on Jul 23, 2012 3:07:26 GMT -5
These kind of things piss me off to no end which is the reason I don't read the news. Do you mean the terrorism stuff or just what happened? Both? I should stop reading news too.. All that shit and all those lies just make me feel so bad, but it is so hard to stop reading lol. |
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Post by Zeithri on Jul 23, 2012 3:22:57 GMT -5
I mean all news.
People are stupid and retarded on a daily basis, pointless deaths and yet another politician who does nothing more than to jerk off on his millions of millions of money, continually sending humanity down the drain.
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Post by lailmith on Jul 23, 2012 10:45:40 GMT -5
All news can't be that bad right? I mean, why don't you read news anymore? Terrorism stuff or the shit stuff or both. |
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It is in reality is just another sad chapter in our society now a days, i do not think the movie had anything to do with it. He seemed like a very smart guy from what they are saying could have turned his life into something i will never understand why people do these sort of things my heart and prayers goes out to the families and all those affected
