woah look at all those very possible future downloads!
you could buy revolution and just simply and entirely live off of the download service! well... i could... but Smash Bros. 3 and MP3 sounds much too good.
still, i just realized that they havent specified something yet again. They said CDROM2, but they didnt say if that encluded Super CDROM2 or not... still, Ys are said to be a Super CDROM2/CDROM2 game (atleast according to that site.. actualy, i think it says that for every game). Anyways, what is the difference between the two?
oh.. lol... and is that site for real? each Ys game for $17, and they're all in stock?
Last Edit: Mar 24, 2006 17:25:35 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
well, they havent specified yet again, like last time, so you never know. anyways, I dont think they would got through the trouble to translate Ys IV in to english for the service... when I think about why they encluded PCE, Im pretty sure it was because of how well It did in Japan... not many US gamers will be interested in PCE games. I wouldnt be surprised if this somehow remained exclusive to Japan (although, they did announce it at an american event), however I would be very disapointed...
Last Edit: Mar 24, 2006 17:54:37 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
Post by ParanoiaDragon on Mar 27, 2006 1:04:29 GMT -5
CD Rom2 is just the generic name of the cd system for the Turbo(not sure how else to explain it), so, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0(Super CD), & 4.0(Arcade CD) should all be playable. Frankly, it'd be silly, if they limited it to 1.0 or 2.0, just because those games don't have the word "Super" in front of the CD Rom2.
Yeah, thats what I was thinking at first. In sure that no game from the console is an exception as they said they'd make sure the very best games from both consoles are available. lol... and all this time i thought I wouldnt be able to get any street fighter on the revolution... although it'd be nicer if I could get some KoF (c'mon NEOGEO!!). A recent interview on IGN with someone from NoA reasured me of that. They even said that down the road its very possible to get other console developers involved with the service as thats what they're striving to do, get as many of them on-board.
still, there is that annoying hurdle of language involved. but a lot of english gaming sites are hoping games like Sin and Punishment (a Japan-only game for N64) to be downloadable for them. so if that could be possible, then Ys IV can be possible, even if it'll still be in Japanese. but you never know... these are gonna be purchasable games, so maybe nintendo will have teams doing things to improve certain games. They've also said that the same service will be used in the same way Xbox Live Arcade is used, for original, simple, and low-budget games, so there is development involved with the service. But the revolution is the most mysterious console ever, even for nintendo they're being more tight-lipped than ever before. E3 could reveal some amazing new revelations, I realy have no idea how far this service alone can go.
And seldane, im sure that it wont ever be possible to put other CDs/DVDs into the revolution, because Revolution will only take proprietry nintend-developed discs for their revolution games and their special optical discs that are used for GC games. also, DVD movies actualy CAN be played off it, but only wih a dongle that wont be encluded with the system and has to be purchased optionaly. im not too sure if it can play music cds though. I bet it'd be more fun to contoll movies and dvds with the revolution controller though ^_^
also, incase anyone doesnt know, nintendo says that the revolution might make old games look better than they did before, although they didnt say by how much. Many have speculated that they're gonna do with, for example, what SNES emulators do with SNES graphics (super bi-linear and stuff like that),
and before anyone starts worrying about contoll... remember that there will be an attachment for the controller that allows you to play games "the old way", and GC controllers can also be used (although i dont know if thats only for GC games).
Last Edit: Mar 27, 2006 13:27:08 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
lol hmm... maybe cuz of the name? because otherwise... from the videos... i cant see it. Twilight Princess can be considered much more "scary" than Phantom Hourglass, since its a much darker game. PH is more like Wind Waker's style, so its obviously much more cheerful.
Last Edit: Mar 28, 2006 18:23:31 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
I really wonder how Nintendo are going to solve the "CD-games are huge"-issue. They could compress the Data track of the games, and have the audio-tracks as MP3's or OGG's or something similiar to save space, but most games would still be over 100MB if they didn't compress the audio real badly. And with 512MB of storage you won't fit many games at once, and having to download the games all over again doesn't sound all that fun.
Still this is amazing news, I really really hope they will allow Jap games for download in other regions, I don't see why they should lock them to specific regions, it's a way for lots of gamers to play games they never been given the chance to play before. It would be a dream come true to be able to sit back and play Dracula X in my couch the way the game is intended to be played, not on my monitor (or my TV with a little choppy framerate (can't get it to run smooth!) and black borders around the picture.).
It would be a dream come true to be able to sit back and play Dracula X in my couch the way the game is intended to be played, not on my monitor (or my TV with a little choppy framerate (can't get it to run smooth!) and black borders around the picture.).
Don't hope for too much. It will probably not be emulated that well. Wrong controller too. Why don't you just get a Duo?
(Sits back and starts playing Dracula X ... the way it was meant to be played.)
You can use your wireless wavebird or the wireless classic controller attachment, I feel that'd do a good enough job for anyone (except total purists, which is just a handfull of people... which probably should have a duo already anyways...) and lemme repeat: wireless (u dont know how much i loved my wavebird). Also, Matt of IGN in an interview with a nintendo rep just revealed that along with being able to upgrade the flash memory, the Revolution will allow you to use any USB storage device... so im already prepared with my 250 GB external harddrive
im also interested to see which and by how much will the games be getting those promised graphical enhancements..
also, im not hoping for anything else as it is... this thing is has already made me more excited than i have been for anything before.
Last Edit: Mar 31, 2006 5:49:51 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
Well, main reason for me not having (or planning to buy) a duo is economy ...
I'm hoping to get one some day (even if the revolution would prove to be absolutely amazing at emulating these old consoles, I'd still like to own the original thing and be able to play the games with the original controller). I will however most likely get a revolution once it's released since I am a Nintendo fan, (did anybody say Mario 128? ) and if I get to play some of the Duo-games in good versions prior to actually getting the real console, I see that as a big plus.
I also hope they make all this emu stuff real good because if it's good they will (hopefully) sell lots of consoles! Go Nintendo!
Also, Matt of IGN in an interview with a nintendo rep just revealed that along with being able to upgrade the flash memory, the Revolution will allow you to use any USB storage device... so im already prepared with my 250 GB external harddrive
Wow, this sounds great, I could just empty my MP3-player and have 20GB HD-space then
sorry, i guess it wasnt in an interview between a nintendo rep and Matt from IGN, it was an article from IGN about an interview between CNN Money and Iwata... theres been so much news lately its almost confusing.
also, Ive come to a deduction that being able to share (or more like: pirate) downloaded rev games by mean of storage device wont be possible... because if u remember, the console will allow u to download any game you have already purchased, meaning that this info will be saved somewhere. so, unless the console knows you've bought it, it probably wont read any non-purchased files. so unless someone finds a way to crack some things (probably ending up with some kinda warrenty-hurting methods), piracy wont happen... atleast not right away.
its so exciting imagining how many CD games I could store in my 200+ GB drive... still, i beleive nintendo will be able to find a good way to compress the games without hurting them. Im not sure if it was that article or another, but one did mention the fact that some games have CD-quality sounds, music, and VOs... and that nintendo has aknowledged that fact.
theres also a rumor that someone contacted SNK-playmore and found out that they're anxious to get NeoGeo on board for the service.
Last Edit: Mar 31, 2006 6:09:18 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
I still don't find this even remotely interesting. I don't understand what's so amazing about it..
Nintendo wants to sell their old junk (again). What's so fantastic about that? That has already been possible. Take Xbox, for example -- almost every retro console is being perfectly emulated there. And the games are "free". Why isn't that exciting? Or take a regular computer (you have a computer) -- play your ROMs on that one instead. Or better yet -- buy a SNES and get some games on Ebay.
I will definitely not get a Rev. Maybe in 5-10 years.
Its because they make it easer for the majority of people, the people who dont want to or cant illigaly download games, which is something im sure you are also against with, seldane? Certain games, like PCE games, are even harder to emulate. Thats basically what Xbox does, use emulators. Hardcore gamers who own xbox can only do it. Revolution will make it easier, quick, and good-feeling for everyone. Its exciting because this is the first time long-time developers are openly encouraging downloading of their old games and it'll put them all in one spot, saving room and possibly encouraging a lot of people to get rid of their old dusty consoles (not me though, i keep them for sentimental reasons). and beleive it or not, a lot of people consider it a big hassle to have to get some old console like SNES, NeoGeo, or TurboGrafX from the internet, me included.
i mean, why did people love that they could play PSOne games on their PS2? its all about backwards compatibility. This is even better cuz its total Nintendo backwards compatibility. on top of that, all of the older casual gamers that will become re-envigored gamers due the this new console and will be delighted to download and play Super Mario Bros. 3 all over again. It can be seen as a selling point, as well as a bonus.
and nintendo has already proven that people love to pay to play their "old junk" over and over again.
and i still havent even re-mentioned that there will be graphical enhancements too.
and we're only talking about a percentage of what revolution does here... its not like the console was built for this reason, to let u download old stuff (which is realy amazing to say).
mostly, revolution is bringing to us what the DS did but on a much much larger scale. and unless you're a complex-minded hardcore gamer who loves to play alone or with people that cant be seen or hates change (perhapse, closed-minded?), then it should come as a realy exciting breath of fresh air. I cant wait to play some pangaya golf with my dad when this thing hits north america (the last time i played with him was in the NES and SNES days, when controllers were easier to use) if you want to know what i mean by that, then think of trying to get an older person u know that has never touched a game to try and play Hot Shots golf, the resulting scene of that scenario will never occur with the revolution. thats probably the biggest reason im excited, among many other reasons.
ofcourse, the Revolution isnt for everyone, contrary to what nintendo is saying. I still beleive that the most hardcore of hardcore gamers, the ones still hooked on physics and real-life complexities in gaming, will go the PS3 route. Nintendo's console isnt tech-savy or mind-burning... some people like things to be powerful and complex. Thats not to say they will be the only ones, some people will have series that they love going to the PS3, if they can afford it (or be able to find one)... but im sure those same people wont be able to resist the Rev, making them multiconsole owners. how could they not when buying one will be as inexpensive compared to other consoles as buying candy?
...and i guess this thread wasnt Ys-related enough, eh?
Last Edit: Mar 31, 2006 7:34:04 GMT -5 by Inochi 命
thanks about the comment on my post.. but seriously, its not like im trying to deffent the console or anything due to me being a fan or anything. In retrospect, I can actualy consider the Gamecube a bad system now. Thinking about it's controller... it was deffiantely too crazy. It was WAY off from what NES started. I remember watching the movie The Wizard and seeing that guy's dad get into TMNT and playing all night, having a total blast (i thought he'd go insane). I mean, how could he not? 2 buttons, how hard could it be? apparently, not hard at all. But looking at the last gen, its as if gaming became something only for a certain group of people. revolution could actualy bring back the NES days, in a sense. think of it this way: "dad, want to play golf? just swing. no meters or aming or complex ideas, just swing." ofcourse, theres more to it... i mean, i didnt mean it's litteraly bringing back the NES days. The problem is that I can only speak about the console generally, since everything about it isnt known yet (some say there could be a built-in microphone on the controller). Just think of it as having the games remain as complex in idea, but will now be simple in design.
about it being atleast a little tech-savy... well, i guess it could be in a sense, sure, but not in the looks category. comparing this controller to xbox 360's which do u think people thought of as more technical at first sight? people even now still call it "the remote" or "clicker", which is what nintendo intended people to think anyways. maybe if nitnendo's controller gets excepted at the true next gen controller, things will change and PS3's controller will be seen as archaic in the future. actualy, nintendo has taken the steps to ensure that their next products will not look like children's lunch boxes (have u seen the DS lite? ) but in comparison to the other consoles, most tech-geeks would still consider nintendo's systems to be the "toys" of gaming. persoanlly, i would too, as they are not trying to be the next gadgets but instead trying to be the most fun things to play with in you're home, for everyone. and motion detection is not realy a technological breakthrough, its only never been used this much in gaming before. its like the DS in that it bring so many unlikely existing ideas together to create something unique.
and yeah, this has now gone completely off from Ys-related now (i tried ) good call, seldane
Last Edit: Mar 31, 2006 12:06:11 GMT -5 by Inochi 命