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Post by zeomare on Jul 10, 2005 14:05:28 GMT -5
hi after playing this game i kept calling him Galbalan, i realize his name in this one is Galvaran. it says it when you fight him it also says it when you battle in the time attack mode, I know this is not a misprint on Falcoms part. i am curious is this one supposed to be related to the Galvas from Ys VI? if so why does this one look so different now. in the original Ys III the Galbaban looked similar to the Galvas of Ys VI and i remembered someone saying that Falcom wanted to link the series and story lines with these characters and others. does anyone know why this Galva is so different from the orginal and more insect like this time around.
chris
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Post by Razorclaw X on Jul 10, 2005 16:03:30 GMT -5
in the original Ys III the Galbaban looked similar to the Galvas of Ys VI Admittantly I only played the SNES version, but Galbalan in Ys III looked nothing like the monster in Ys VI. Galbalan always looked more like what Darm looks in all the pictures I've seen of him (big purple ugly guy).
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Post by zeomare on Jul 10, 2005 16:15:47 GMT -5
in the pc engine version he looks similar to the Galvas from Ys VI he looks more like a dragon of sorts,
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Post by Razorclaw X on Jul 10, 2005 16:19:26 GMT -5
The big-purple-rock look for Darm is primarily from the anime. I was also thinking of the image from the opening of Mask of the Sun, though. I always thought he looked just like him that I actually thought it was Galbalan at one point. Galbalan from Ys III: www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/a/Ys.htmDarm from opening of Ys IV: (haven't found a picture yet) ---- Er... whatever. The point of it being I never thought that the thing in Ys III and the thing in Ys VI looked at all alike.
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Post by zeomare on Jul 10, 2005 17:43:37 GMT -5
ok we got the name out of the way just out of curiosity does anyone know why he looks so different now? and not like the others?
chris
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Post by Rogles on Jul 18, 2005 12:20:30 GMT -5
ok we got the name out of the way just out of curiosity does anyone know why he looks so different now? and not like the others? chris Ahh, finally beat him last night! Yeah, he looked different to me too. I guess the main thing that makes him similar to the other two in Ys VI are the big hands (though his are detached from his body) and the slit eyeball weakspot. I guess other than that, Galbalans are very diverse creatures. Actually he kinda reminded me of Druegar from Ys II - not so much the Eternal/Complete version, but more like the Turbo version (I think they called him Dragger in that one). I guess it's the insect-like leg things he has.
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Post by FM-77AV on Jul 18, 2005 12:33:21 GMT -5
He he, I finished Galbalan not long ago. He looks like the old one to me, but then again, most of the bosses in OiF has changed a lot since YsIII. And that doesn't surprise me at all, actually.
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Post by Vert on Jul 18, 2005 16:49:22 GMT -5
Well, Galba Roa WAS the "original" Galbalan. Maybe Galvaran is just Galbalan Mark VIII.
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Post by zeomare on Jul 18, 2005 18:49:06 GMT -5
He he, I finished Galbalan not long ago. He looks like the old one to me, but then again, most of the bosses in OiF has changed a lot since YsIII. And that doesn't surprise me at all, actually. i am most familiar with the pc engine version, in the story parts he looks like a dragon, but in this one he looks like a insect, kind of reminds me of Gohma now from Zelda with the big eye that needs to be targeted.
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Post by Vert on Jul 18, 2005 21:46:11 GMT -5
"Galbalan" and "Galvaran" are literally the exact same thing. Galvaran is the official Romanized spelling to the Japanese, while Galbalan is the official US spelling. I know, I was just using the different names in order to make which one I was talking about clearer.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Jul 26, 2005 3:37:34 GMT -5
Hmm, if I remember correctly from the Turbo/PCE version, he even used to have legs........I wonder who that guy that originally fought him was supposed to be, maybe an Eldeenian(I think he had wings on his helmet, too lazy to check). Ofcoarse, that game was made before the Eldeenians entered the series.
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Post by Razorclaw X on Jul 26, 2005 21:21:58 GMT -5
Hmm, if I remember correctly from the Turbo/PCE version, he even used to have legs........I wonder who that guy that originally fought him was supposed to be, maybe an Eldeenian(I think he had wings on his helmet, too lazy to check). Ofcoarse, that game was made before the Eldeenians entered the series. I was under the impression that he was Chester and Elena's ancestor. I don't remember seeing any of the PC Engine artwork depict that guy with wings, though, so I kind of figured the Eldeenian guy on the mural was one of the new things.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Jul 26, 2005 21:45:02 GMT -5
Is Genos mentioned in Oath? I've noticed pictures of a human with wings here & there, I don't know if that's supposed to be him, or maybe they took him out, I don't know. But it does make sense with him being related to Chester, since Chester, not Adol, could seal/destroy Demanicus
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Post by harlock on Jul 27, 2005 1:31:41 GMT -5
Name translations aside... I have a feeling that a change in design probably wasn't a conscience story decision on falcoms part...
More than likely Galbalan's look in "Oath" was motivated by the graphic designers aesthetic tastes, ie: a boss they thought would look really cool.
We know that Galbalan in Ys3 and in "Oath" are one in the same... and we also know that falcom is attempting to make more concrete connections in the series w/ names and dialog.
...and of course, there are bound to be differences in graphics and design across several different platfoms/titles/media over long and even short periods of time.
Just my 2 cents anyway...
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Post by Razorclaw X on Jul 28, 2005 0:18:15 GMT -5
Now that I've gotten a good look at Oath's Galbalan, he does look like a Black Emelas creature if he's supposed to be that. While he doesn't look 'consistent' with the rest of the dragon beasts in Ark he does look rather consistent with how he previously appeared in the previous Ys games, with the main feature being, obviously, his big giant eyeball (which I actually never considered back in the day, but with Oath depicting the eyeball rather prominently on the boss and the murals...).
Maybe we're thinking about this Galbalan connection the wrong way, and the term 'Galbalan' refers to a series of Emelas creatures rather than a distinct species. Or there's something in the Oath story that says something about that which I didn't pick up?
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