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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Oct 12, 2004 14:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm stuck on the 3rd continent, it's Norland in the US version of the 1st game. I saw the guy that disapears & what not, it's been awhile, I think I still have no money from being robbed. Any help?
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Nov 22, 2004 19:27:02 GMT -5
*bump*
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Post by FM-77AV on Nov 24, 2004 4:17:35 GMT -5
Sorry. Can't help you. I haven't played this game that much. Do you mean Dragon Slayer: The Legend of heroes 2? I did not know that was released in english! Isn't there a walkthrough somewhere?
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Post by Justus on Nov 24, 2004 4:26:58 GMT -5
Yup. The very first Legend of Heroes game actually has an official English translation.
Well, the first Eiyuu Densetsu is actually a fairly mediocre game, especially for Falcom. It was their first time ever to try making a traditional menu-based RPG, and it was pretty generic, unfortunately. The story was fairly typical, but the gameplay was just awful! Even worse, the English voice acting rivals Ys 3 for terribleness. Nonetheless, it IS a Falcom game, it is in English, and of course it has great music!
Oddly enough, I really enjoy Legend of Heroes 2 (which, no, does NOT have an English translation, and is the game he's talking about in this thread).
By the way, how much do you know about the extremely confusing Dragon Slayer series? You see, the first Legend of Heroes game was Dragon Slayer 6 (hence the title, Dragon Slayer: the Legend of Heroes). Legend of Heroes 2 (and on) are NOT part of Dragon Slayer, so saying "Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes 2" is actually a misnomer.
There's a decent walkthrough for Legend of Heroes 1, but not for LoH2. It's a shame, because 2 is really a much better game. It was made right after Ys 4, and good lord can you tell! The music sounds like it was probably recorded as part of the same recording sessions, and the graphics are similar to Ys 4 as well, like the characters and such.
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Post by FM-77AV on Nov 24, 2004 4:37:19 GMT -5
Yes. I do know Legend of Heroes 1 was translated. Even the MSX version is (unofficial though). But still, Legend of Heroes II is actually called Dragon Slayer. Just try the Super Famicom version. And yes, I do know about the confusing Dragon Slayer series, I wrote a list for all the games here somewhere.
Anyway, I agree with you. The music is great and according to me, it could even be slightly better than the music in Ys!
Anyway, the first Dragon Slayer game is my favorite of them all, even though it's not developed by Falcom.
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Post by Justus on Nov 24, 2004 4:49:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that's right. Now I remember. LoH2 is part of Dragon Slayer, like you said.
Only, instead of it being Dragon Slayer VII, like you might expect...no, it's still Dragon Slayer VI! So...it seems two different games are BOTH Dragon Slayer VI. Well, nothing new for this series, I guess. No less than 4 games were Dragon Slayer V (well...OK, maybe those were actually expansions, but still!). What I don't understand is why LoH 1 and 2 are both Dragon Slayer VI, but Legend of Xanadu 1 is Dragon Slayer VIII, and LoX2 is Dragon Slayer IX. Loh2 is almost indentically related to LoH1 as LoX2 is related to LoX1, so why are they treated differently? It makes no sense. Nothing about the Dragon Slayer series makes any damned sense!
By the way, the only Dragon Slayer I've never played is Romancia (Dragon Slayer III). I'm kind of curious what it's like.
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Post by FM-77AV on Nov 24, 2004 4:53:25 GMT -5
Ah, Romancia. It's a good game. It's in the downloads section, by the way. And well, the games are confusing, but then again, the answer is fairly simple. Falcom had a rule which meant that all games directed/created by "Yoshio Kiya" had to be called Dragon Slayer. It is weird, but that explains some of it.
Edit: Since Yoshio Kiya has left Falcom, the rest of the Legend of heroes series did not have to be called Dragon Slayer anymore. Also, the Dragon Slayer series originated from Square.
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Post by Justus on Nov 24, 2004 5:11:24 GMT -5
Ah, Romancia. It's a good game. It's in the downloads section, by the way. And well, the games are confusing, but then again, the answer is fairly simple. Falcom had a rule which meant that all games directed/created by "Yoshio Kiya" had to be called Dragon Slayer. It is weird, but that explains some of it. Edit: Since Yoshio Kiya has left Falcom, the rest of the Legend of heroes series did not have to be called Dragon Slayer anymore. Also, the Dragon Slayer series originated from Square. Ah yes, that explains quite a bit. Comparing the first Dragon Slayer in my head to early Square games like King's Knight, it makes almost TOO much sense. So, the very first one was Square's eh? What about Xanadu...that was DEFINATELY Falcom's, wasn't it? For that matter, what about that random sequal they made for the first Dragon Slayer that was only on gameboy? Who developed that....thing? Er...about this mythical downloads section. I've seen it mentioned before, and it's starting to sound quite awesome. Where/what is it? Also, is there some kind of FAQ or something for this forum that I managed to miss?
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Post by FM-77AV on Nov 24, 2004 5:23:35 GMT -5
Well, it's a bit funny. I disabled the downloads section TODAY. The file host is currently down, but as soon as it's back up, I'll enable it. Don't worry.
And yes, Xanadu is by Falcom. Square did the first one, but Falcom distributed it. It's funny, that Falcom was once a lot bigger than the now, huge, Square Enix.
Edit: Oh, I forgot. The Game boy version is merely a port of the original Dragon Slayer (ported by that squirrel software behind the SFC ports of Loh1 and 2, can't remember their name). It's almost identical (and the funny thing is, Dragon Slayer for Game boy is extremely easy to get ahold of, since it's on most pirate carts). There is also yet another Dragon Slayer II on Game boy. Dragon Slayer II: Dorasure Gaiden. It's nowhere close to Xanadu though. It's developed by Falcom.
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Post by moongazer on Nov 24, 2004 12:57:56 GMT -5
First, I have to make sure that this is the right game! And , how far you are into the game.
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Post by jslithy on Nov 27, 2004 8:17:24 GMT -5
The first Dragon Slayer was developed by Falcom, no doubt about that. You might be confused, because Square did produce and distribute the MSX version of the game. If you play Dragon Slayer on the PC88, the title screen says "Developed By Falcom." Also, Falcom's history page lists Dragon Slayer 1 as one of their creations.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Dec 3, 2004 1:02:39 GMT -5
Yup, that's the same game as the one I'm playing. The 2nd pic there shows the guy that disapears. I've explored all of that continent, can't seem to get any farther.
On the other subject, there are 4 Dragon Slayer 5's? I thought Sorcerian was 5, & that's it. Also, technically, LOX 2 could be Dragon Slayer 8, it doesn't say 9 on it, it just says the last of Dragon Slayer, so maybe LOX 1 & 2 are both 8, as LOH 1 & 2 are 6. Ofcoarse, then there's Lord Monarch. Speaking of which, do you actually slay a dragon in every Dragon Slayer game?? I know you do in LOH 1, & I think you do in LOX 2, which I beat, but, what about all the others? BTW, is Dragon Slayer 2 on GB, kinda like how there's Rainbow Islands, which is Bubble Bobble 2, but then there's Bubble Bobble 2 for NES, plus, I think Bubble Memories, or Bubble Symphony is also called Bubble Bobble 2, very strange, & I don't even think Parasol Stars actually came out in arcades, but, it IS Bubble Bobble 3, even though I think it came out, before Memories & Symphony.....I think.
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