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Post by Incog Neato on Jun 14, 2008 4:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jun 15, 2008 20:21:15 GMT -5
It's pretty much impossible to terraform the moon or mars to make them habitable. Neither of them have the gravity necessary to hold a breathable atmosphere.
Now Venus, maybe we could do something with that. But we'd have to address those surface temperatures and such...
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Post by Justin on Jun 16, 2008 0:02:09 GMT -5
I think they should go the "gundam" approach, and build mobile colonies. Send out people to explore the universe as a culture.
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Post by michaelchaoslord on Jun 24, 2008 17:32:55 GMT -5
Have it ever occured to anyone that some Aliens might be hostile or territorial and after watching a DORITO ad isn't really a good idea to showing who we are and how dangerous we could be. It makes us look like dorks. Not only that but the whole project sounds vain, what if its not far enough and they've wasted more of our time and money.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jun 28, 2008 2:47:17 GMT -5
It's hard to say what aliens would think about anything. But I'd like to think they are probably as capable about careful about not taking things on face value as we can be. One would imagine a large degree of metathinking like that would be necessary to sustain a civilization long enough to achieve spaceflight.
At worst, we might alienate them by being crude (Onoes teh pun!), but I don't think it'd be something that makes or breaks interstellar war.
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Post by Incog Neato on Jun 28, 2008 8:22:47 GMT -5
Well, yeah. But it's more fun to think of the worst possible outcome.
I suppose something else they could do is come to our doorstep demanding Doritos.
Still, it really doesn't matter what sort of goodwill messages our fine space program folks are sending out. I maintain that some race out there will eventually get offended by SOMETHING. I mean, it's impossible to please everyone.
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Post by Incog Neato on Jun 29, 2008 10:11:56 GMT -5
Heh, and nothing would please the Doritos marketing department more, I'm sure. (: -Tom Who said they were going to PAY for the Doritos? :P I mean, sure the ad worked but if the aliens just want to eat Doritos and not shell over US currency for them, then that won't be good for them. :((( |
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jun 29, 2008 19:46:30 GMT -5
I suspect we'd be able to arrange a mutually beneficial barter.
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Post by phaer on Jul 5, 2008 7:38:49 GMT -5
It's too early to judge however..whether can we make it to live on moon or mars.
Yes ,I strongly believe if all nations and all peolple devote themselves to the project of terraforming moon or mars...we can soon live on it..But it's almost impossible for all man of all races and nations to concentration unless we are challenged by alien forces.....as a whole...
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jul 5, 2008 21:14:11 GMT -5
On the other hand, gravity.
Seriously, the moon has no atmosphere. This is because it does not have sufficient gravity to have an atmosphere. Mars used to have a less thin atmosphere, but its gravity was not sufficient to hold onto it. So yeah, there's not going to be any terraforming of those until we understand how to make gravity without mass.
As for colonizing, there's not a lot of value in colonizing the moon. We would have to carry over all the resources needed to do so, and would get nothing in return; the moon has very little in resources or anything useful. While it would provide a useful launch pad, it wouldn't be enough to justify the expense.
Now Mars, Mars we cannot terraform, but we can colonize it. It is possible to get most of what will be needed there to survive from there, although it will take a bit of doing and a lot of expense; as well as a fair deal of finetuning. The problem is that if something goes wrong in the process, aborting the mission is not possible at all. But yes, a Mars colony is possible, and I suspect we'll see one in our lifetimes, short of an FTL breakthrough.
There are a few good books on the subject; saying it's too early to tell is just not doing your research.
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Post by phaer on Jul 8, 2008 8:25:47 GMT -5
Well.I admit what your opinion as a astronomy fan also.
But I what i mean by the word "soon" is a historic concept.
Maybe 100 years is long for us.But it's not that long when viewd from the angle that we are a civilization.We can't definitely say that's impossible for the future human race...who are maybe even stronger,cleverer and kinder..maybe.
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Post by Falcom Director of Fanservice on Jul 8, 2008 22:16:46 GMT -5
Well, viewed in a Civilization scale, I'm more excited about the coming of The S i n g u l a r i t y. =]
But yeah, I misinterpreted what you meant by soon, my mistake. Although if we get to the point that we can make gravity, I would imagine that science would have progressed enough that terraforming Mars would mostly be a vanity thing; all the other advances leadings up to such would make it much less necessary.
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