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Post by Mutagene on Sept 10, 2010 9:26:08 GMT -5
I'm starting to get more into translating, and while I can read both kana alphabets and have a kanji dictionary, I have a lot of trouble with deciphering hiragana without a good dictionary. Anyone care to help?
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Post by tancients on Sept 11, 2010 14:54:05 GMT -5
Asking for a hiragana dictionary is like asking for an alphabet dictionary. :x
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Post by Adol.Christin on Sept 13, 2010 4:53:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kimimi on Sept 13, 2010 5:00:34 GMT -5
I would personally save yourself a ton of money and just use - Denshi jishoGooSpaceAlcWhen I first started I bought myself a load of Japanese books, everything from kanji dictionaries the size of a house to smaller ones dealing with specialist things like idioms and none of them have been as easy to use or as comprehensive as those three.
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Post by Adol.Christin on Sept 13, 2010 5:20:13 GMT -5
I prefer books with these kinds of dictionaries over online resources
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Post by Kimimi on Sept 13, 2010 6:26:34 GMT -5
That's fair enough but do you mind if I ask why? What do you find in a paper dictionary that you personally don't get with an online one?
Just curious really, I've never found even decent paper dictionaries to be anything other than expensive and lacking in content.
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Post by Adol.Christin on Sept 13, 2010 6:50:54 GMT -5
the Kanji book lets you serach on the amount of strokes for example. very nifty when you don't know what the kanji means or how to pronounce it. and I use them to find out what to do in Video games, sitting on the coutch I prefer a book
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Post by Varion on Sept 13, 2010 7:04:40 GMT -5
the Kanji book lets you serach on the amount of strokes for example. very nifty when you don't know what the kanji means or how to pronounce it. So does the internet! I've never had any interest in paper dictionaries, they're such a pain in the ass. When I was starting out I used a DS application, then when I knew more I switched to searching by radicals on wwwjdic, then looking up the result in a better dictionary (usually Yahoo's these days, the Japanese definitions are nice) Tried using a paper lookup method once, realised pretty quick it was more effort than it was worth, paper dictionary condemned to life at the back of the wardrobe.
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Post by Mutagene on Sept 13, 2010 7:09:42 GMT -5
Sorry if my first post was confusing... but I have quite a few kanji dictionaries, and I CAN read hiragana as an alphabet, I just don't know any words. I'm probably learning backwards, knowing more kanji than hira phrases... >_>; Thanks, kimimi, I'll look into those more later today. I'm thinking I might have to buy a book or two, as well, since Zero is guaranteed to be a brick wall. I'm going to be translating some stuff on Danbooru for practice, beginning with this.
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Post by Varion on Sept 13, 2010 7:12:49 GMT -5
Muta what happened to your self-grounding
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Post by Mutagene on Sept 13, 2010 7:14:15 GMT -5
For some reason, my parents really don't like the idea... plus, they're gone for a week. Hopefully they'll punish me themselves, though.
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Post by Varion on Sept 13, 2010 7:14:50 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll punish me themselves, though. Hard M.
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Post by Mutagene on Sept 13, 2010 7:20:29 GMT -5
ドMホイホイ?
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Post by tancients on Sept 13, 2010 20:59:35 GMT -5
It's not uncommon to know some kanji prior to learning the hiragana (or even proununciations), especially for foreigners.
That said, I'd highly recommend the goo dictionary kimimi linked. It shows both hiragana reading and kanji for words, and can look things up either way. It has English definitions for most words as well.
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