If you live in the US and buy used...

[DoubleD64]

This isn't looking so good in the future...
www.gamespot.com/news/6275683.html

[megalink101]

Sept 14, 2010 10:14:54 GMT -5 DoubleD64 said:

This isn't looking so good in the future...
www.gamespot.com/news/6275683.html

Buying a copy and a license are two different things. It is not going to happen to games. When games start being "licensed" that is when the gaming industry is going to lose a majority of their customers. Gamers do not need to worry about this happening.

Think about it, if every company started licensing games then what would be next? CDs? DVDs? Cars? Your PCs? If that ever happened (but it will not), it would eventually mean anyone selling Falcom stuff on the Falcom Marketplace would end up in court with XSEED and have their behinds sued off on behalf of Falcom.

Let me say this again. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN--EVER! The reason is because doing that would create a slippery slope for every industry to take advantage of the consumer. Period. If everyone has not already noticed, America is in financial ruin, and they do not have the money to pull everyone into court over this. Honestly, does anyone really think the American government is going to say goodbye to Amazon and Ebay, two companies who give them a hefty chunk of money for taxes each year just so the game industry can gouge consumers some more? Not in a million years.

[Varion]

I don't live in the US and I don't buy used, but I still don't like the sound of this. Sets a really bad precedent, and DRM already shows what companies are willing to do if they think they can get away with it. If I've bought something I'll damn well do what I like with it, even if that means selling it off to someone else to get some use out of it instead.

[DoubleD64]

Well here's the thing (cue political bing)...

Since January of 07 when the Democrats (AKA rats) took over, this is when VERY CRUMMY political decisions about our (the US) economy have been made, which has resulted to what many of you see now. Mind you this is less than 2 years before BHO took office.

Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT Pro-Republican, I am what many are called Pro-Constitution, and won't hesitate to fight any of this draconian crap.

If any one finds this disturbing, I apologize, BUT its the cold-hard ugly truth. (end political bing)

[mister_e]

Sept 14, 2010 22:00:23 GMT -5 DoubleD64 said:

If any one finds this disturbing, I apologize, BUT its the cold-hard ugly truth.

Two words: Subjective and Objective. Look 'em up

[Mutagene]

The worst part is... I swear the big-name publishers only continue to make things even worse, despite their consumer base abhorring everything they do. It seems like there's no way to cure their ignorance.

I really hope this doesn't end up being adopted, for EVERYONE'S sake.

[RyuKisargi]

This'll end up like a bunch of garbage like this.

In the garbage. This is basically saying noone can sell -anything- used, meaning.

Ebay goes. Amazon goes. Overstock goes, EVERYONE GOES.

[AllenSmithee]

Well, Canada. Hah.

But yeah.

[psybuster]

Ninth circuit pretty much only covers the US west coast so most people don't have to worry about anything for the time being. I wouldn't expect much to come out of it either. Bear in mind that the current EULA of just about every game for the last few years already has similar "this is a license" wording but the EULA is neither legally binding nor enforceable from a practical standpoint.

If they REALLY want to get into this, anyone that "leases" you said products would have to be trained/authorized to do so, much like realtors/brokers are trained/authorized to sell houses. Same with stock brokers, car dealers, etc. Lot of other crap that comes with it like dealers having limited power of attorney over said products, and that's something I doubt any software company would want to sanely hand over to retailers.

[DoubleD64]

Sept 14, 2010 22:33:53 GMT -5 Wyrdwad said:

Even with my insider perspective and prior dislike of used game sales, I couldn't BEGIN to justify doing this with games. It's one thing to find used game sales frustrating and consider the retailers rat-bastards for making money that way... but it's another altogether to flat-out BAN it. Nothing about it is or should ever be illegal, and I definitely agree that if this WERE to happen, the industry would ultimately suffer due to a tremendous backlash from gamers.

And piracy would TOTALLY skyrocket.

-Tom

I do agree that buying used may not be the best way but here's how me and some of my buddies see it...

When a new game is released, it is too expensive to buy, especially when the majority of new releases are priced between $40-60 US Dollars. Because not everybody is made of money. Which is why they either wait until they get it used or until the price drops on a new copy. And another reason why people buy them used is because at a lot of stores, their shelf-life is less than two years at best, and there are many people who skip out on them because of either other games interest them or they just can't afford it because of bills and what-not.

And yeah, Piracy will rise up and end civilization as we know it if that happens, which I now doubt, since I had a good chat with my co-workers and have come to an ultimate conclusion about EULAs. No matter how they work, they will always be a double-edged sword, to both the makers and consumers. Because if you buy a game new, even if a developer says that you are "licensed" to it, you still bought that "license" which now makes you the owner of that copy. What you do with it here-on out is up to you.

So yeah, thanks for the resolves dudes and dudettes.

[RyuKisargi]

I don't think this is gonna go anywhere. Gamestop holds the monopoly on this, and they'll vigorously defend it.

To be honest, it's quite convenient, and they see it the same way.

As I said, some people got bored and this came up. Our system works on capitalism, and used games @ gamestop is basically that at it's finest.