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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 15, 2010 7:54:56 GMT -5
Original subject: Proving people wrong (excl. facts)
I note "excluding facts" in the subject because it's kind of hard to say those are wrong. :B Anyway~
I guess it's not really about showing someone who's right and all but more like doing something to, I dunno, spite them? :P
Here's my story~!
So my friend keeps insisting that fried onions on a fastfood steakhouse burger is THE MOST HORRIBLE THING KNOWN TO MANKIND. And that they have NO place on a burger, that it'll make people puke and have the runs, and goes on for eternity of how people should not be subject to such a horrendous error in cuisine.
Keep in mind that he makes it sound like this is all a fact!
I keep saying that it seriously can't be THAT bad so now I'm on a quest to taste some of the steakhouse burgers out there. I'd tried the McDonald's one (forgot what it was called) and it was all right. Didn't really care much for the onions since they didn't really add any flavour to the burger itself.
Now I have a coupon for the Burger King STEAKHOUSE XT so I'm gonna try that next! :D
Obviously, there is no right or wrong in this since everyone's taste in food is different but sometimes, it just drives me crazy when people harangue about stuff and make it SOUND LIKE IT IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
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Edit: Suddenly, I realized the true reason for this thread -- it's disagreements in food tastes! XD So let's talk about that instead! Food you like! Food you don't like! Wheee!!!
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Post by HJ on Sept 15, 2010 8:13:51 GMT -5
They probably just assume you know it's simply their opinion since it is an obviously subjective topic. Honestly, it is kind of redundant to say "I think" or "IMO" all the time, perhaps especially so in a conversation between friends. People should be smart enough to read between the lines and see that I'm simply stating my opinion if I say something like, "I hope the third game is better because the second kinda sucked." (may or may not refer to Valkyria Chronicles)
If they really can't or a person keeps running his mouth for a very long time, then you can always say something like, "I like fried onions, actually", or, "You think so?" If the person then replies with, "Well, you're wrong" or something equally asinine, then he's probably an annoying twat, but that's something else.
But... is this even what you wanted to discuss? Or did you just want to announce your fried onion-campaign? >_>
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Post by Yakra on Sept 15, 2010 8:54:43 GMT -5
I like fried onions, actually.  Really though~ X'D I actually DO like them loads. Infact, I really like onions in any form. It gets a bit annoying though that many people seem to dislike them lots (with very just reasons too, but that's not changing what I like! :'D), and.... actually make you feel bad about liking them. Infact, since I'm sure this thread is not about the love of onions (XD), it's very irritating when people start stating their opinions as facts, and start making you feel bad about something! No matter what the thing may be~! It's one thing to hold an opinion about something, but when you start looking down on others just because of them not agreeing with ye, then....... ne. |
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Post by Varion on Sept 15, 2010 9:33:31 GMT -5
They probably just assume you know it's simply their opinion since it is an obviously subjective topic. Honestly, it is kind of redundant to say "I think" or "IMO" all the time, perhaps especially so in a conversation between friends. People should be smart enough to read between the lines and see that I'm simply stating my opinion if I say something like, "I hope the third game is better because the second kinda sucked." (may or may not refer to Valkyria Chronicles) I think the only ones who can't are the type who're just looking to be offended, really. Amazing that such people exist, but they do. I can't be arsed specifying something is my opinion when it quite clearly is either. |
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Post by AllenSmithee on Sept 15, 2010 9:43:59 GMT -5
That's basically how my brother wins arguments with me. He just overpowers me with unfacts, and yells louder. It's really frustrating, of course I know it's his opinion, but saying something directly like its a fact and then ignoring the truth of it being an opinion afterward is SO frustrating. If we won't agree on it (which we won't) why not stop and change the subject. But he doesn't let me do that! So it's bull-ogna. He says that it isn't an "organic conversation" and other such things.
So here's the thing, it's just extremely frustrating.
And HJ, it's different than that. I mean, you never said "I hope" there, but it was clear. And it is clear with my brother because I know him well, but I don't want to constantly be reading between the lines in a conversation about trivial things like games or movies. So, it's the difference between
- "Pumping Dicks is the worst game in the world, man!"
and
- "No, no, Team Fortress 2 just sucks, undeniably, all multiplayer FPS suck, and it's got a gay artstyle."
It's basically a matter of how you present it.
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Post by Varion on Sept 15, 2010 10:01:58 GMT -5
If we won't agree on it (which we won't) why not stop and change the subject. But he doesn't let me do that! Well this sounds stupid. If it's quite obvious that an argument is pointless and going nowhere then it's a waste of time. I'm all for having a discussion about it with someone but when it's obvious they're not gonna budge then just drop it with 'lol opinions'. Or whatever. |
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 15, 2010 11:36:24 GMT -5
If they really can't or a person keeps running his mouth for a very long time, then you can always say something like, "I like fried onions, actually", or, "You think so?" If the person then replies with, "Well, you're wrong" or something equally asinine, then he's probably an annoying twat, but that's something else. Actually, this is part of it too ... >_____> I mean, if it was really just HIS opinion, he wouldn't say, "Well, 75% of the people that responded to this post also think it's gross.", as if to say, "Oh, well, YOU'RE the only one that thinks this way." I suppose he means it jokingly but it's like half-joking (cuz he can be a doofus like that). 9____9 Oh, and beyond that (and before trying the fried onions), I did say something like, "I really don't think they can be that horrible." and he replied with something to the effect of "You just have to trust me -- they are." :V You know, I think I know the real reason I started this thread! It's cuz I actually get annoyed when people say certain foods are disgusting (when they've never tried it before) so I guess I should change the subject. XD! |
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Post by Ashurei on Sept 16, 2010 20:44:25 GMT -5
This seemed relevant.
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Post by Ashurei on Sept 17, 2010 7:19:35 GMT -5
Ah! D:
I think I'd rather go to the penis restaurant than watch that video again. I did not know I was about to watch someone unapologetically tear a bird apart.
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 17, 2010 15:27:43 GMT -5
Anyone get offended by people eating dogs? :V
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 18, 2010 9:02:46 GMT -5
I would. But you can go ahead, if you really want to -- I'll just keep far away. But why? People just don't pick up a neighbour's dog and cook it. They're animals too. D: |
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 18, 2010 13:45:08 GMT -5
Yeah, but they're universally cute, AWESOME animals. (: That means that even bunnies shouldn't be eaten! Bunnies are cute. ToT! |
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 18, 2010 21:40:41 GMT -5
But there are all kinds of doggies! Not all are cute!
Pugs are damn ugly!
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Post by tancients on Sept 19, 2010 2:28:50 GMT -5
I am deathly allergic to dogs. According to US self defense law, I can legally get away with killing any dog within 5 yards of me due to my allergies. But I'd have to kill them slowly. Probably with suffocation.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Sept 19, 2010 3:16:28 GMT -5
I love dogs as well! In buns with mustard, with chili, melted cheese! My favorite dog is the coney!  As for actual living breathing dogs, I hate ankle-biters and really noisy mutts. I absolutely love obedient, quiet, protective dogs, though!  I'm still more of a cat person.  |
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Sept 19, 2010 4:48:48 GMT -5
Toy poodles are awesome, man!  They're actually one of my personal favorite breeds. Pugs are good too. The HUGE playful breeds can be a little much, though; I don't like the kinds that jump and tackle you as soon as you enter the room, seemingly without rest. |
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Sept 19, 2010 5:51:49 GMT -5
Again, I like them when they're calm and obedient, and being a little playful is okay, as long as they're not downright haphazardly jumping and barking about and accident prone; the difference between a dog who's happy, and an incredibly ecstatic dog that just never calms and more often than not invades one's space. I get along with most dogs just fine.
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Post by HJ on Sept 19, 2010 6:24:03 GMT -5
There are a lot of dogs I universally dislike. such as poodles and chihuahuas. I'm like Wyrd when it comes to cats, though.
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Post by Yakra on Sept 19, 2010 7:47:52 GMT -5
I'm cool with those, too.  I think I'm just one of those people who has a real repoire with dogs in general, though. Don't think I've ever met a dog who hasn't taken a liking to me -- I can be in a room with dozens of other people, for example, and if there's a dog there, it'll invariably lie down on or near my feet. Dogs are just drawn to me, and I to them. -Tom You sound the EXACT opposite of me! I din't think there has been ANY dog who has liked me! (Well.... none except one~ X'D) It seems like the mere sight of me sends even the most mildest and docile of doggies into a blood curdling rage. :'D ....I wonder why..........? :'''D Cats, on the other hand, behave around me EXACTLY how dogs do around ye. X'D Speaking of dogs getting eaten up, some people used to accuse my neighbours of kidnapping their pets and eating them! .....I think it was more like their dogs killed all any other poor stray wandering dogs though.... :'D |
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Post by Incog Neato on Sept 19, 2010 8:40:54 GMT -5
I think pugs are cute. (: Eeew. TT |
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They're actually one of my personal favorite breeds. Pugs are good too. The HUGE playful breeds can be a little much, though; I don't like the kinds that jump and tackle you as soon as you enter the room, seemingly without rest.
I think I'm just one of those people who has a real repoire with dogs in general, though. Don't think I've ever met a dog who hasn't taken a liking to me -- I can be in a room with dozens of other people, for example, and if there's a dog there, it'll invariably lie down on or near my feet. Dogs are just drawn to me, and I to them. 
