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Post by cercia on Feb 4, 2012 17:51:54 GMT -5
Thought I'd share some of these things from the Japanese wikipedia on Ys which I found while I was looking at Falcom logos!
Adol Christine is the swordsman of Green Gables who has red hair, he unlocks the mysteries of ancient civilizations such as the "Aztec" Temple of the Sun. It's based on Mexico 's ancient ruins of Chichen Itza. The 'land of the sun' is associated with gold such as gold head and the pedestal found in Ys. 6 Shinto priests along with the goddesses ruled ancient Ys called "heart", "wisdom", "when," "light", "The Power" and "earth".
META-FICTION Adol's adventure diary was spelled several hundred thousand years before the novel. "meta-fiction" has been agreed. Meta-fiction, while intentionally reminding the reader that it is a myth, presents a problem of the relationship between fiction and reality. Ys has been one of the concepts of developing a series set in the past. IV reinterprets the work and focuses on an 'ancient civilization of winged humans'.
ADOL'S DIARY Adol is over the age of 50 and looking back from his birthplace. The original diary consists of more than 100 books stored in the basement. 1.Ys I-II (Story at the age of Adol 17) The vanished Kingdom of ancient Ys, first adventure. 2.Tales from Jukai of Seruseta - "IV" (18 years) 3.Felghana adventure writings - "III" (19 years) 4.Kefin city of Sand - "V" (age 20) 5."VI" (age 23) - asking the people with wings. 6.Five of Arthurs' Dragons - "VII" (age 23) WORLD Adol's region, located to the south of Europa continent Ereshia Utsumi has been centered in the surrounding area of the sea Meadows. Although the place names are fictitious, Falcom has officially announced their map is of real Europe - Mediterranean closely resembles the one in that region and attempts to pronounce the names like English. The real-world situation is from the Roman empire and is based in Romun and has been a military invasion to know the surrounding area. Each stage of work: Esuteria Island ( France off the coast) - "I"/"II"/Origin Ferghana region ( Germany or north-west Netherlands "III" -) Seruseta ( Spain ) - "IV" Afuroka continent ( Africa ) San d'Oria ( Alexandria ) - "V" Arutago ( Carthage ) - "VII" (Sea Atlas = Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Europa) Canaan Islands ( Azores ) - "VI"
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Post by yotaka on Feb 4, 2012 20:07:03 GMT -5
There's nothing here that we don't know already, unless you wanted to provide an object lesson in why machine translation of Japanese doesn't work.
For example, according to your text Adol and Anne are related. I presume your program saw 'Akage', found 'Akage no Anne' in its dictionary and didn't think that the word could possibly stand alone. Similarly, the bit aboud Adol living hundreds of thousands of years ago comes from the inability of a computer to figure out that 'Sensuuhyaku' means 'A thousand and a few hundred' so instead it added the numbers together. Then there's all the proper names it can't figure out because nobody entered them into its dictionary. Good for a laugh I suppose.
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Post by cercia on Feb 8, 2012 12:04:26 GMT -5
A historical Ys timeline would be good^^
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Post by yotaka on Feb 9, 2012 0:31:47 GMT -5
Here's a rough one I cobbled together; it's incomplete but it's a start. I'm going to use the date of Adol's birth as the baseline (Year 0). There's one book that provided an in-universe date for Adol's birthdate but it varied between two years and it's not clear what the basis for the calendar is. Given that Ys takes place in an alternate-universe Earth it's probably a Christ equivalent (which might be what the church established in Oath is supposed to be, what with all the trappings that come with it) but we don't really have any details so take it with a grain of salt. Said calendar also wasn't used in the much more recent Perfect Data book but you can keep it in mind if you like.
Disclaimer: Even if I get everything right, Sea of Trees is probably going to retcon a bunch of the Celceta stuff and likely the Eldeen generally since Ys IV was kind of an outlier on that front. Oh yeah, obvious series spoilers to follow.
Year -2000: The Eldeen civilization flourishes on the Atlas Continent. Alma establishes a civilization on the Canaan Islands and the Ark of Napishtim is constructed as a weather control device.
Year -1000: One of the Eldeen's Galba 'dragons' rampages around Felghana. Genos (who may or may not be Eldeen himself but certainly was sent by them) stops it and puts down roots on the island where Galbalan was sealed.
Year -900: Humans attempt to control the power of the Ark of Napishtim and fail horribly. The sea level rises and the Atlas Continent vanishes.
Year -800: Feena and Reah bring the Black Pearl from Celceta to Esteria Island and found the city-state of Ys.
Year -700: Ancient Ys Vanishes. Darm Tower is constructed. Kain Fact and the Clan of Darkness are stopped and sealed away. Yunica Tovah, Hugo Fact and Rico Gemma remain on the surface and found their family lines, Toal Fact returns to Ys and establishes the second line of the Fact family. Feena and Reah set their alarm clocks for seven centuries and take a nap with the Black Pearl. [Ys Origin]
Year -500: Led by the hero Lefance, humans in Celceta rise up against the Eldeen after discovering that they planned to eat the humans. The surviving Eldeen are confined to a small region of land which becomes viewed as sacred ground.
Around the same time, the great Kingdom of Kefin vanishes in the sands of northern Afroca, taking its secrets with it.
Like I said, this bit about the Eldeen makes little sense in the context of everything else we know about them so expect this to get altered soon. I'm also willing to bet a later game will establish the Eldeen were somehow connected to Kefin, if only indirectly by attempts to copy their power.
Year -200: Traders begin to come to Altago in earnest. The tribe of Edonas abandons their worship of the Five Dragons, adopts foreign customs, relocates to the mainland and effectively ceases to exist. The Iskans are displaced and appear to vanish from Altago as well.
Year -6: Dogi is born in Felghana.
Year 0: Adol is born in northeast Europe. The Global Guide Book gives the date as July of either 742 or 744 of whatever calendar it's using. Again, grain of salt.
Year 7: Destruction of the village on Genos Island, Chester and Elena are taken in by Mayor Edgar of Redmont.
Year 11: Dogi leaves Felghana, eventually arriving in Esteria and becoming part of Goban's gang of thieves.
Year 15: An amnesiac girl is discovered in the desert around Feldt and is adopted by the adventurer who finds her.
Year 16: Adol departs from his hometown in search of adventure.
Also that year, descendants of Hugo Fact attempt to prevent the mining of a newly discovered vein of silver and are killed. Shortly afterwards, a standing storm vortex isolates Esteria and monsters begin to appear.
Year 17: Adol's first major adventure takes him to Prolamock where he learns of the strange goings-on in Esteria. Adol being Adol, of course he charges right in, starting a tradition of both his rushing headlong into adventure and wrecking every boat he boards. Ultimately Ys is returned to earth through his actions, Kain Fact gets what's been coming to him for seven hundred years, Feena and Reah leave and Lilia starts pining for a certain red-haired wanderer. [Ys I-II]
Year 17/18: Following a message in a bottle, Adol travels to Celceta and uncovers the mysteries of the Eldeen civilization that once lived there. The Clan of Darkness shows up again for nebulous reasons. The last known Eldeen dies. Adol and Dogi start travelling together, thus beginning the greatest bromance in the history of the Ys world. [Ys IV (MotS Timeline)]
Year 19: Adol and Dogi travel to Felghana. Galbalan and his cult are defeated, Dogi remains behind to help rebuild the country and hopes that with Adol's absence he'll have a chance with Elena. [Ys III/Oath]
Year 20: Adol discovers the secrets of the lost Kingdom of Sand and the Philosopher's Stone and meets Terra. [Ys V]
Year 22(?): Geis trains with Ciarius in Altago.
Year 23: Adol reunites with Dogi at some point prior to their encounter with Ladoc and Terra in Ediz. The two travel to the Great Vortex of Canaan in search of traces of the Eldeen and find them. The Ark of Napishtim goes haywire again but this time Adol is on the case. [Ys VI]
It's possible there are further adventures where Adol goes looking for the Eldeen based on the fact that his journal detailing this adventure has an atypically vague title and a number suggesting it could be part of a series.
Year 23/24: Half a year after the events of Ys VI, Adol and Dogi travel to Altago and learn the truth behind the missing two tribes. The Five Dragons vanish from Altago forever. [Ys Seven]
Years Unknown: Adol's travels in the Orietta region, southern Afroca and the North Pole, among others.
Year 63: Adol either dies or becomes Santa Claus depending on your point of view.
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Post by yotaka on Feb 9, 2012 10:29:32 GMT -5
Bro Code Rule 37b (the Childhood Friend Rule): Hoes met before Bros are an exception to the rule.
Found in in the earliest known copy of the Bro Code as a margin note in Dogi's handwriting
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Post by cercia on Feb 11, 2012 13:18:05 GMT -5
Thx for the timeline properly translated!
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