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Post by abaddon on Aug 13, 2012 21:16:09 GMT -5
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Post by tancients on Aug 14, 2012 0:18:38 GMT -5
When the natural law of Darwinism is attempted to be circumvented, the human species still finds a way to be self-destructive.
I think it's normal. If people are too proud and 'ethical' to allow people to be killed for various reasons, then you'd best learn to deal with things like this.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Aug 14, 2012 5:02:23 GMT -5
I had to think about what you were trying to say, as everything you've said is wide open to interpretation -- but if I've read you right, you're basically saying that no matter what one's moral stance is on the subject, there's always someone who is going to be killed, be it by an executioner, terrorist, or civilian. As cold as it is, it's true. We can't magically stop murderers or wish or will everyone to stop just because we say so, or because one or many entities or deities of myth, legend, and/or history have said so. It doesn't matter whether one believes that death is just another beginning, or that death is the complete abrupt end where one ceases to be, death is shocking for most people. The fact that a person could willingly cause another to either cease to be entirely (again, depending on beliefs) or to be sent to lands (whether good, bad, or neutral) is shocking and distressing on many levels for many people. We may not like it, but wrong or right/'justified', it won't stop.
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Post by tancients on Aug 15, 2012 7:52:05 GMT -5
It is more noticeable in smaller species, but the same standard applies to humans as a whole.
For many species, when given tighter quarters, they will kill off others of their own kind in order to increase their chances of survival. This is a natural response to (in this case) synthesized overpopulation. The fact that humans often kill each other for a multitude of reasons, which can often be summed up as "infringing on ones own freedoms", is a segue of the ideology.
There are outliers in both nature, and due to the sheer number of humans, but it is less common and typically requires more discipline. (See the emphasis on community in Japan, vs the emphasis on individualism in other parts of the world, and compare crime rates)
Interestingly, humans and ants are more alike than humans and apes when it comes to social polotics. Shame coordination in homosapiens is severely lacking.
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