Anyone a fan of Halo 3??

[afiqys]

hey there. Halo 3 just released today in Europe, and as a big fan of the franchise...my main mission was to get it on the first day. well i was quite worried that it might have been sold out due to high demands and pre-orders but i did manage to get myself a copy. my fisrt thought of the box was...omg this is super cool. and the game itself is superb....
just wondering if anybody has it or tried it...cuz its the biggest hype in the world now
bye-bye

[FM-77AV]

I will totally get it, but I'll wait for the 65nm X360s to arrive. Since I will mod it, the warranty will be void, and since all 360s are dying, I won't get one yet.

[FM-77AV]

I dare you to play the first game and not get ultra-hooked within the first two hours!

This goes to all of you who have anything negative to say about the best game in the universe.

[Inochi 命]

I'm just sick of hearing about this thing EVERYWHERE (since it's also here now, it's really everywhere). It's not only the most hyped game ever, but the most hyped anything ever. I have no interest in it because I found both Halo and Halo 2 to be nothing more than average FPS games. I really found the multiplayer level designs in those games to be some of the worst I'd ever seen in a FPS. I'd rather go back and play Perfect Dark. I actually stopped caring for FPS games after I got sick of Perfect Dark. I played that game with my brother and friends as much as most halo fans play halo today. I never even finished all of the super agent missions (or whatever they were called... but they were damn hard). Eventually I just felt like I was completely burned out on the FPS thing. I don't think they've changed all that much since Goldeneye 64. I do have some interest in the Half Life series on PC, though.

I also don't like the whole military thing either. It's the biggest reason I can't stand Micheal Bay films.

[CrazyJo82]

i played halo series... honestly, it just plays like any other FPS games. You have a storyline. You play the hero. You're the only one who can save the world.

I found the art (the colour) in a weird cheery, gloomy feel... it's dark but it had purple and green colours... I still think Quake is the better and best FPS series (Enemy Territories: Quake War is out but my computer is too slow for it. lol). When I can borrow someone's 360 and game, I'd play it and finish the series. At least, I can say "hey, I've played and finished the game but not sure what the hype is." lol

As for multiplayer... I can never get the hang of playing FPS with a controller... it's better with a mouse and keyboard.

I think Halo3 was overhyped and will probably be a disappointing game. I found Halo 2... hollow...

[Adol.Christin]

wyrdwad said:

I've played it. It's... totally unimpressive to me.

Bear in mind, however, that I *DESPISE* the FPS genre. The closest thing to an FPS I've ever REALLY LIKED was Jumping Flash on the PS1.

I also dislike military designs in character art, so I found the whole game rather unpleasant to look at.

-Tom

I agree with you. only, the closest thing I play to a FPS is the Metroid Prime series(GC/NDS/Wii), but that's more of a first-person action/adventure than a real FPS. and I must play it since Samus was the first woman I ever played with, she holds a special place in my heart

[FM-77AV]

3d Metroid > 2d Metroid
Halo 3 > Any other game
FPS > The universe

[Stan]

admin said:

3d Metroid > 2d Metroid
Halo 3 > Any other game
FPS > The universe

FPS's are fun, but they appeal the lowest common denominator. As a result, you get the dredges of the internet playing them. So, I prefer ones with good single-player campaigns. I just can't stomach all the stupid out there in the multiplayer (particularly Counter Strike) universe.

Can I add to the list?
IG-88 > FM-77


On topic, I plan on playing it someday. I might end up getting a 360 sometime within the next year. When I can afford it. I wasn't really interested until I read this summary. I really didn't pay enough attention to the story in the first game, and I haven't played the second. I'm sure I'll get around to it.

[sideshow]

The series is solid and is by no means a terrible game but its WAY to popular just like World of Warcraft and that turns me off. I like playing games that most gamers never heard about. I suppose japanese games have more appeal to me cause there much more innovative. Military FPS games have to be the most saturated form of gaming on the planet. I find Bioshock much more appealing than Halo 3 probably because the underwater setting and nostalgic voice acting is very unique.

[FM-77AV]

B-but you can play Ys on an FM-77! And Ys II! Can the IG-88 do that? I didn't think so.

And that's why I like Halo so much. The single player adventure is so awesome. I never play FPS games online (or online FPS games offline). I have never tried it and that's never going to happen either.

[Ryle]

I never understood what the Fuss was with Gaylo. I'll save my money and get Enemy Territory Quake Wars for PC. Regular Death match just gets old after awhile and thats all it has to offer. At least in ETQW its class objective based multiplayer. Gaylo is ok but I dont see what all the crazyness is about

[Ryle]

sideshow said:

The series is solid and is by no means a terrible game but its WAY to popular just like World of Warcraft and that turns me off. I like playing games that most gamers never heard about. I suppose japanese games have more appeal to me cause there much more innovative. Military FPS games have to be the most saturated form of gaming on the planet. I find Bioshock much more appealing than Halo 3 probably because the underwater setting and nostalgic voice acting is very unique.

And you can shoot up! Dont forget that lol

[Falcom Director of Fanservice]

Dear Sideshow

How does a game being obscure make it good? Whether or not it is well known doesn't mean anything to its actual quality. How could the two factors really be related? Like, unless you don't actually care about the game, but do care about being seen as Indie, there really is no logical connection at all between obscurity and goodness.

Curious in Neohio,
The Captain.


Also, I've watched two of my best friends blast through I'd say a good 2/3rds of Halo 3 on hard mode during their first playthrough, in about seven hours or so. This is the only Halo I've seen, though one of the friends was more than kind enough to lecture me a bit on it, as he particularly loves the series.

From what I have gathered, there's two prongs to the appeal. On one hand, to summarize Zero Punctuation, it's an insipid boomfest. As in, the only goal is to get to the end. No hunting for keys or anything like that, just carve through the opposition with as much strategy, skill, or raw firepower as you can manage. In a sense, that simplicity reminds me of the appeal of our beloved Ys series.

There other bit of the appeal seems to be the plot. Watching it in action, I get a dire sense that much of the plot is implied, while that which is shown is given little if any subtly. I suspect that it's a love it or leave it sort of thing, which I can fully sympathize with; having similar loves myself. I would put forth, though, that Halo does suffer from its military-based perspective, as it limits much of what can be shown effectively and thus cuts out on background information, character development outside of combat, and limits what can be shown.

From what I've gathered, Halo's main strength seems to be in its multi-player nature, as the simplicity combines well with having fun with friends, keeping coordination very focused. I imagine that the online play must also be interesting in a free for all manner, the antithesis of, say, World of Warcraft's complex raid bosses, where everyone has to do their job and do it right in order to succeed at all.

Halo has yet to capture my heart or soul, it's military centricness doesn't appeal to me, and I want to see my characters develop outside the battlefield as well. But I can respect it for what it is, in the same way that I can love Ys' basic simplicity and astonishing genericness that weave together in such a way as to touch my soul uniquely.

Edit: Nearly forgot: Oh, Seldane.

[afiqys]

To understand the story completely..i recommened reading the Halo novels. i was a lazy reader....i hated books....but when i read a few pages of Halo The Fall of Reach novel...i was hooked at the way it is written. the use of words and vocabulary is just amazing. an indepth look at how the story unfolds.....that is absent in the 1st game. oh i dont wanna spoil it...its just too good.
i even let my english teacher borrowed it since she was so interested in why there was a really big hype, for just a video game that she hasnt even heard off.

[sideshow]

Obscure games arent all necesarily good but I give them more credit on trying to bring a fresh new artform to gaming. I've played many types of military/FPS games in the past 10 years and it just isnt all that exciting to me anymore. You do realize it doesnt matter what I think cause most American gamers love FPS games while japanese gamers care much less. You have to give credit to the extremely successful marketing campaign of the Halo franchise which trully deserves an award.

[FM-77AV]

Halo 3 is now the fastest selling game ever. (Obviously, considering it is also the best game ever).



REDMOND, Wash. — Oct. 4, 2007 — Interactive entertainment will never be the same, with the launch of one title that has changed the way the world thinks about video games. “Halo 3” has captured the attention of consumers worldwide and has made history as one of the biggest entertainment launches of all time.

Microsoft Corp. today announced that “Halo 3” has officially become a global phenomenon, garnering more than $300 million in sales in the first week alone. The critically acclaimed Xbox 360 exclusive, which was released worldwide on Tuesday, Sept. 25, is the fastest-selling video game ever and already one of the most successful entertainment properties in history.

Initial reports from retailers worldwide show console sales have more than doubled compared with the weekly average before the launch of “Halo 3.” With games such as “Halo 3,” “Madden 08” , “Mass Effect” and “Rock Band”, Xbox 360 has the greatest lineup in the history of video games and is the only console where consumers can play all the year’s biggest blockbusters.
“‘Halo’ is truly a cultural phenomenon, and the launch of ‘Halo 3’ is an important milestone for Xbox 360 and for video games as entertainment and as an art form,” said Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft. “‘Halo 3’ embodies our vision for the future of entertainment, where some of the world’s greatest creative minds will deliver a new generation of interactive storytelling.”

“Halo 3” is quickly staking its place as the most popular Xbox LIVE game in history with members gathering in record numbers to play on the world’s largest online gaming and entertainment network on TV. More than 2.7 million gamers have played “Halo 3” on Xbox LIVE in the first week, representing nearly one-third of the 7 million Xbox LIVE members worldwide. Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week, representing more than 4,500 years of continuous gameplay. Since “Halo 3 launched,” gamers have unlocked nearly 30 million achievements. In its first week alone, “Halo 3” drove a record number of Xbox LIVE Gold Memberships as hundreds of thousands of new members gathered online with friends, family members and other gamers around the world to collectively compete and complete the game.

[Inochi 命]

How can Halo be Soylent Green when WE'RE SOYLENT GREEN?!

But the fact is, it really is being touted as Soylent Green. In fact, most people think it's better than Soylent Green... and that annoys those who don't have that mindset as all of that talk about Soylent Green makes them sick of it before even having tried it.

The way I see it, Halo gains it's popularity from being the best console, easy-to -pick-up, online-multiplayer experiance with tons of features. Pair that with the fact that its predecessors were the saviors of Xbox, the Mario's of Microsoft, that basically created the majority of the system's install base. Then add that the last two were some of the most hyped games/things in the planet, and you can see why it's so popular. I really have no problem in it being popular, it's stuff like "Halo 3 is ushering in a new era for video gaming" that's touching a nerve. Halo is good, Halo is fun, but Halo is really nothing special.

I base my reason for not buying into the hype from trying Halo and Halo 2 and not liking it. I just found it to be Goldeneye with new paint and in some ways dumbed down. It's still easy to abuse and spam weapons in multiplayer, which is something I've never seen fixed in any shooter I've played (be it first or third person). Personally, I do think games like Half Life and Counterstrike (or other PC shooters) would be better choices for anyone into FPSes, as from what I know they do what Halo 3 does but better. But the one thing they don't do is create an easy to get in to experiance on consoles. I'd actually recommend Goldeneye or Perfect Dark over Halo as well, but those are outdated now... mostly graphically, so most people would get turned off too fast to give them a shot. Too bad, because the single player in both those games are as solid as the multiplayer, something I haven't been seeing many people say about Halo 3. Zero Punctuation made no mistake in what he did.

I've been burned out on FPSes since the N64 days, but I can still see which FPS deserves it's hype and which does not. But what can you do? This isn't anything new. Even more than Halo, Madden is the new Mario of the world. Even if reviewers point out how a new Madden is absolute crap in comparison to last years, it's still going to sell two times the amount even Halo does. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't just take a game to be good for it to sell or win awards, it can take timing, appeal, audience, circumstances, and marketing too. In some cases, those other things sell a game better than how good the game is. This goes for anything in any market.

[Inochi 命]

I'm basically thinking exactly the way you do, wyrdy, but like I said... I think I've figured out why it is more successful, like I explained in my above post. Just consider that Bioshock and Half-Life 2 came without multiplayer modes or the same amount of hype or fanbase backing them. I really doesn't matter what the better game is. Even the Orange Pack coming out for Half Life 2 will go unnoticed compared to Halo 3, which sounds like it'll be worlds better than it.

[FM-77AV]

Inochi: You're wrong. Counter-Strike and Half-Life does NOT do what Halo does. Both of those games are about precision. Shoot your enemy in the head and it dies instantly. You rarely encounter enemies in Half Life, and when you do - there are like three enemies at most. Hard enemies that will kill you right away if you didn't see them coming.

In Halo, you enemies come at you from all angles at all time, tons of enemies everywhere, but they can almost never kill you unless they are really strong. They need to attack in groups to be able to do it. Halo is about fast, insane action, you drive jeeps mowing over hordes of enemies, you drive tanks bombing the shit out of legions of Covenant scum. It's unlike any other FPS. It's perfection.

Half-Life is slow and - compared to Halo - boring. And pretty much a completely different type of game.

[Inochi 命]

You're right in that sense... that they're different, I mean. But I was just talking generally, as they're all FPS games. I just think other FPSs are generally better than any Halo. In terms of control, balance, originality, immersion, story, etc. If anything, I'd think that Goldeneye and Perfect dark a more similar to Halo in that it gets most fun (and harder) when there are more enemies on the screen trying to kill you. They just don't have the vehicles that Halo does, although I'm guessing Goldeneye invented the fun of running enemies over with a huge vehicle. And compared to Half Life, just as you can say it's slow and boring, Halo just sounds frantic and shallow.

oh btw, this just in:

"Halo is truly a cultural phenomenon, and the launch of 'Halo 3' is an important milestone for Xbox 360 and for video games as entertainment and as an art form..."

hmmm... as if "Interactive entertainment will never be the same with the launch of one title that has changed the way the world thinks about video games." wasn't enough...

I don't even think we had to listen to this kind of stuff when Zelda OOT, FFVII, or GTA3 hit it big.