Post by eternaladol on Oct 2, 2008 18:02:59 GMT -5
ive played some of the Ys series and love it ive also just recently found out about the Eiyuu Densetsu series(the legend of heroes series). Could someone tell me more about the legend of heroes series im really interested in it and would like to know more about it ^^
Aha, why thank you! This clears up a bunch. I never knew that LoH1 has been available in english!
I must, however, cite that LoH5 -- Song of the Ocean -- isn't that bad, and infact does include a neat boosting/limit system too; you press a button during an enemy or ally's turn to interrupt with a special move. Whoever gets interrupted forfeits their turn. I really like it. Plus the story is decent, and I haven't seen any clipping or out-of-order paragraphs like I have with III -- Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch -- and my personal favorite, IV -- A Tear of Vermillion. I suppose I probably just haven't played LoH5 long enough to see the erroneous dialogue(s); and you should know more than anyone else here, just how picky I am; I mean, I gave Faxanadu a bad rap for its translation! Even still, I enjoyed Faxanadu... in spite of "posion", "guri", "elfs", "dwarfs", "Daydreak", "onix", and many more errors. Let it be known that whoever translated the dialogue for the sage in the sky, did a terrible, TERRIBLE job -- not a damn part of that made sense. >_<
If I'm remembering what Wyrdy told me correctly - Moonlight Witch retains the PC versions battle system, but the other two games have the Lunar-esque system.
Oh, and to repeat something I probably say too often - the Sora no Kiseki games are amazing. Seriously. It's be a long time since I really enthused about a traditional style RPG, but they really are something special.
Post by eternaladol on Oct 2, 2008 23:30:06 GMT -5
well i already know i am importing the Sora no Kiseki series because i looked at some youtube videos and also i downloaded the demo on my psp which i found was great for demo,as for the rest of the psp ones i may get the english ones and then import the japanese versions some time in the near future but im not to sure yet because by what wyrdy said the games were really badly done in english so that might keep me from getting the english ones and just importing the japanese versions for all the LoH psp games
Post by eternaladol on Oct 2, 2008 23:37:05 GMT -5
well right now im not interested in getting pc versiosn of games id rather get the psp versions first then get the pc ones but still it sounds like i might aswell just import all the japanese psp versions and maybe someday ill get the english versions just to have ^^"
Post by eternaladol on Oct 2, 2008 23:51:30 GMT -5
well im honestly no good at reading japanese but i wouldnt mind looking up the kanji and such to know whats going on because well it will make the game more fun and at the same time i get to learn a bit of japanese while im at it ^^ plus there are those times when i can somehow get whats going on just by the sourroundings and characters expressions and such like that, well ill think about what versions to get first excluding SnK psp versions thats just a plain YES!! but high chances ill end up getting the pc versions last since im not really a pc gamer *yet* but anyway thanks everyone for some information on the LoH series to help me decide
wow thats some pretty odd/bad english version quotes, now im starting to consider the japanese versions alot more,i know youve probably answered this but do the japanese psp versions still have the opening videos and fmvs? sorry if you already answered this i probably just never noticed ^^"
That's appaling! If they'd have chucked me a tenner I could have turned out better dialogue than that!
Eternaladol - everyone is different, but I personally find having to look up every other word a real mood-breaker and not like playing a game at all. The LoH games are all about the dialogue, and if you're Japanese isn't much cop you'll struggle to find what's so good about them. I agree with Wyrdwad - fully understanding some bad English is going to give you a better overall feel for the games than not understanding good Japanese.
then i have a good idea what to do,ill get those *bad* english versions first then sometime in the near future import the japanese versions so ill know the story as best as the english versions can give and see what the big differences are first hand, though this may cost me alot of money i think it will be very well worth it, as for the SnK series well ill just have to try my best in understanding it
The Japanese PSP versions have their own PSP-exclusive opening FMVs, complete with vocal theme - which are quite nice, but all three of them use the same song, which is just kinda weird!
Basically, here's my take on the opening FMVs:
White Witch - PC version's is like a slideshow, with limited movement and an inconsistent art style. The music is heavily-synthed 80s pop. - PSP version's is like an anime intro. - PSP version's is way better IMHO.
A Tear of Vermillion - PC version's is extraordinarily well put-together, with a really awesome instrumental theme song that fits perfectly with its gorgeous visuals. - PSP version's is an attempt to duplicate the PC version's. The scenes depicted are basically the same, and while they're technically more animated than the PC version's, they also come off as a bit more generic, and don't fit with the song as well. - PC version's FMV wins!
A Cagesong of the Ocean - PC version's is, again, a bit of a slideshow - though even moreso than White Witch's, as there's literally NO movement at all! Very cool song, however, and the art is nice. - PSP version's is the weakest of the three PSP version intros, but it's beautifully animated, and again looks like a sort of anime intro. - Kind of a tie. The PC version's has better art and a better song, but the PSP version's is more interesting overall.
Note that this is only in reference to the opening FMVs. All three games have a pre-FMV "scrolling backstory" thing, which is present in ALL versions of each game, including the English ones. In the Japanese PC and PSP releases, the scrolling backstory scenes are then followed by an opening FMV, whereas the English PSP versions of the games just jump right from the scrolling backstory to the title screen.
alright thanks for the great info there wyrd ill be sure to keep that in mind for future use and ill try to get the pc versions asap as they sound really good by what you have told me
I recommend the Saturn version of ED3. It's such a nice game, with super nice isometric graphics. I think it is the best-looking ED game ever.
And despite being almost entirely dialogue-based (of which I understand nothing) I did actually manage to enjoy the game quite a bit, based on the atmosphere alone. Because there really isn't much "gameplay" involved.
Post by eternaladol on Oct 3, 2008 10:26:58 GMT -5
well it seems i must get a saturn at some point in time aswell, now i really need a job if i want to get all this -_- so much money is going to go towards just the LoH series but surly its going to be worth it in the end, its falcom were talking about here its no doubt that it will be worth the tons of money im going to be spending on it all and ill go look around youtube myself for this saturn version to see what i think though high chances im going to agree with FM-77
Post by eternaladol on Oct 3, 2008 11:29:38 GMT -5
well i just looked at the saturn version opening and a bit of gameplay on it and i have to say WOW! that is one nice looking game and i love the anime cut scenes and the anime style opening, the music even sounds great(which is one of the main things i look for in games) i totally must get this version someday but first i need to get a saturn ^^"
The Saturn is region locked, but there are many ways to bypass it. The simplest one would be to get an Action Replay cartridge, often called a 3-in-1 or a 4-in-1 cartridge. They can easily be found on Ebay and they are cheap.