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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 9:44:20 GMT -5
For other OSX junkies like me, I recently discovered a product www.codeweavers.com/products/"Crossover for games", I was scanning through the list of compatible software and noticed "Ys: OiF" listed and was like "WTF?" So I downloaded a trial, and to my surprise, YS1/2 Complete, Ys6, Ys Oirign, and OiF all install and play on OSX without having to run anything like parallels/VMware. Thought I'd let other Ys fans know, cause to me it's pretty cool to not even have to dedicate a huge amount of system resources to running virtual OSs just for Ys games. Only works on Intel Macs though. Worth noting that since I'm very conversant in Japanese I haven't bothered trying to install English patches, I'll try that later. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Mar 11, 2009 9:53:56 GMT -5
WTF~~~~~~~~~k??!!?!?
Holy ****, **** sh**!!
NICE FIND
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 10:09:32 GMT -5
Anyone happen to be able to take a screenshot of the JP or English version of the menus? The only error I've encountered so far is the out-of-game config menus are all jibberish(though the kana show fine within the game). And is one of the options to window the game? I have a very bad memory   |
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Post by psybuster on Mar 11, 2009 10:12:49 GMT -5
You can Window the game, yes. I don't have a Mac to be able to tell you anything about garbage outputs on the options program though, nor the game(s) installed on this laptop to tell you which checkbox it should be.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Mar 11, 2009 10:51:39 GMT -5
I don't recall being able to highlight some Window Mode for these games in the config menu... and not sure about YsO.
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 11:04:45 GMT -5
Tried to install English patch and in all of them would get to this screen and install would be greyed out.  Would be easy to get around if it wasn't an EXE patch. |
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 11:19:45 GMT -5
 Ok figured it out, if you install the games use the WIN98 bottle instead of XP, and make sure you choose the WIN98 bottle as the bottle to install the patch to. English patches work! |
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Post by SkyeWelse on Mar 11, 2009 11:39:11 GMT -5
Great job figuring that out! I actually have used Crossover before to try to play the games, but I've never seen support for the Ys games until now. Which version are you using by the way?
-Thomas
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 11:40:05 GMT -5
the newest one, 7.2
Gonna try ZWEI! and Xanadu Next, next...I have a feeling pretty much all the Falcom games are going to be compatible now.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Mar 11, 2009 11:44:43 GMT -5
Cool! I'll have to definitely try that out. If it all works, I'd love to see if we can come up with a step-by-step guide for how to play Falcom games on OSX using this program.
-Thomas
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 11:51:24 GMT -5
Can probably do that later today, it's honestly very simple, only the patching caused some issues but once I figured out the win98 thing it was all "follow the menus".
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Post by SkyeWelse on Mar 11, 2009 11:59:26 GMT -5
Sounds good to me. I may hold off since, last time I attempted on using Crossover, the results weren't all that satisfactory. I think I did manage to get the opening movie to play for Ys I Complete, but that was it.
This will be wonderful since I use my Macbook Pro for just about everything and I've never enjoyed booting up into the Boot Camp installation of Windows natively just to play Ys games because the fan for the MBP doesn't seem to spin fast enough in Windows. It ends up heating up the MBP quite well.
At least in OSX, I can use smcFanControl.
This is all wonderful news I must say!
-Thomas
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 11, 2009 12:06:20 GMT -5
That sounds very cool! Unfortunately, I don't have a Mac or Linux, because I have quite a few old DOS/95/98 games that need running -- and Virtual PC doesn't seem to be doing the trick. It runs everything faster than it should, and it doesn't play foreign games -- even with language support enabled.
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 12:12:25 GMT -5
That sounds very cool! Unfortunately, I don't have a Mac or Linux, because I have quite a few old DOS/95/98 games that need running -- and Virtual PC doesn't seem to be doing the trick. It runs everything faster than it should, and it doesn't play foreign games -- even with language support enabled. For DOS games you can just use DOSBOX, works on windows, OSX, and Linux. And this program(Crossover) seems to have excellent 95/98 support as I'm now finding out. |
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 12:28:59 GMT -5
Xanadu 1/2 and Xanadu Next all work.
Zwei! I had issues with, but it may of been from using a 98 bottle, gonna try XP.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 11, 2009 12:31:11 GMT -5
DOSbox gives me the same problem as 95/98 on Virtual PC: speed throttling (too fast/too slow, rarely normal speeds), unstable FPS, yadda yadda. I've tried all of the options, and changed speeds in-game to no avail. I've gotten games like Rayman on DOSbox to work *perfectly*... for a while -- and then they speed up to the point of being unplayable. Rayman Gold on DOSbox will be very slow and choppy, with occasional perfection, or again, the randomly unplayable speed up issue. Ys II Special crashes often on DOSbox. Occasionally too slow/too fast, same as above. Ecco the Dolphin PC on 98SE Virtual PC (the definitive version -- I won't accept substitutes, I have every version) will be incredibly fast and unplayable, with very VERY few slowdowns. Unbalance Xanadu PC doesn't run on 98SE Virtual PC; black screen with choppy BGM. It otherwise runs perfectly on XP, but it bitches about resources "Not enough system resources" (Thanks to Wyrdwad for the translation!) in Japanese after too many background/character images/sprites have loaded. Typically after I enter/leave a screen/shop. |
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 11, 2009 12:50:08 GMT -5
ZWEI! is just unplayable because regardless of bottle type I choose, for some reason the launch file doesn't get installed, so even though all the files are there you can't even launch it.
Ys games though are all pretty rock solid.
I don't own any other Falcom windows games to test unfortunetly.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Mar 12, 2009 2:39:09 GMT -5
I wish I owned the PC versions of Xanadu... They're rather expensive though...
-Thomas
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Mar 12, 2009 17:31:35 GMT -5
Something interesting, apparently in the PRO version you can create RPM distributions of the bottles.
In practical terms, what that means, is instead of making a guide to install Ys games, I can make a file(that includes the game itself, though you still need your own CD for the CD check), that can be downloaded and run in Cross-over.
So instead of guides I can just host pre-configured files for people to download.
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Post by SkyeWelse on Mar 12, 2009 20:14:20 GMT -5
That sounds pretty cool, but I'm wondering how big those files might end up being for a download? Gigs and Gags? Or less than 100 megs per bottle distribution?
-Thomas
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