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Post by cxt217 on Aug 7, 2011 22:59:15 GMT -5
That is an interesting case of throwing someone for a loop. When I went to Yes-Asia and punched in 'Falcom' to the search box, I managed to miss seeing Zero no Kiseki the first time I went through the search results because both versions were the only games there that had their name rendered in Chinese and then translated to English - all the other Falcom games used the standard English names (Including LoH3). It was only after I looked at product graphic that it clicked.
C.T.
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 11, 2011 1:00:04 GMT -5
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 3, 2011 21:56:52 GMT -5
Hm... May I ask you people a question?  This PC port... it was done by a single company, right? (With some of Falcom's support.) And that company alone released it in more than one region of China? Was it released in any other country, as well? And all of these releases, game-wise, are identical, or were there some changes? (For instance, for some places Simplified Chinese was used, and for other places it was not?) Sorry for these poorly-formulated questions.  |
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Post by Aveyn Knight on Oct 4, 2011 7:47:50 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure on the details, but I believe the game was developed by Beijing HappyEver company, with some support from Falcom, as they are credited in various places, such as (I forget) the title screen.
HappyEver released the Simplified Chinese version in mainland China. It seems they had a distribution plan with Interwise and Typhoon Games, who published the Traditional Chinese version in Taiwan and Hong Kong respectively.
On a related note, I've been playing the PC version for a while and it's pretty good. I've noticed there's a bug with missing sound effects when I play with headphones on. Otherwise, I haven't had any problems.
The battle sprites are *really* nice quality, wish I could say the same about the face sprites, which seem a bit jaggedy to me. I haven't played the PSP version, so can't really comment about the backdrops, but I don't think they're "HD" quality as some people initially believed. But anyway, I guess they did a decent enough job.
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Post by Aveyn Knight on Oct 4, 2011 10:37:53 GMT -5
IIRC you have the mainland China version, right? I'm not quite sure how their verification works, but if you need any help, you can send me any relevant details/instructions and I'll see what I can do (although I should mention Simplified Chinese isn't my forte).
However, if I've assumed correctly, the verification is the same across all PC versions. So if you've verified the game on one PC, you need to revoke the verification before you can verify on another.
If you search in the ED_ZERO folder (or something similar), there should be a file named "revoke". If you double click it, it will give you a window that allows you to revoke your verification automatically online (top option) or manually online (lower option). I've already revoked a verification before and didn't have any problems, so hopefully it should work for you.
If you're having issues verifying at all, the best bet is to try the manual verification. This will require the full code that came with your software (mine starts with ED7PC-HK-01--).
Also, just beat Chapter 3 : o
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 4, 2011 21:46:01 GMT -5
Sounds like EGG's service: you need to return to them a "key" if you intend to play their games on a different computer, so that you can regrab the "key" on that other computer. Also: I'm not 100% sure on the details, but I believe the game was developed by Beijing HappyEver company, with some support from Falcom, as they are credited in various places, such as (I forget) the title screen. HappyEver released the Simplified Chinese version in mainland China. It seems they had a distribution plan with Interwise and Typhoon Games, who published the Traditional Chinese version in Taiwan and Hong Kong respectively. On a related note, I've been playing the PC version for a while and it's pretty good. I've noticed there's a bug with missing sound effects when I play with headphones on. Otherwise, I haven't had any problems. The battle sprites are *really* nice quality, wish I could say the same about the face sprites, which seem a bit jaggedy to me. I haven't played the PSP version, so can't really comment about the backdrops, but I don't think they're "HD" quality as some people initially believed. But anyway, I guess they did a decent enough job. That's exactly what I wanted to know!  Thanks!!! |
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Post by shinikenshi on Oct 22, 2011 3:20:04 GMT -5
So I decided to snap up a copy of ...apparently one of the many flavors of LE for Zero no Kiseki PC as well. My brother was in Taiwan on vacation and I asked him to pick it up for me. Great price and...whole-ly crap the box is HUGE! Alas, mine did not come with any figurines of any sort. Oh well.
I've got a bit of a problem trying to load up the game though. Should be straightforward...but you know how that goes.
I enter the serial key from the back of the manual in the first box of the verification software and I am met with an "unknown error". Just to make sure it wasn't a mistyping I...proceeded to mistype and got an incorrect serial code error. That's good to know...I guess?
I am curious if this version is region locked and that that may explain the issue? Any guesses is appreciated.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 22, 2011 11:03:03 GMT -5
You can try using VPNs to check that out. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with any Asian VPN, though, aside Japanese ones...
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Post by Aveyn Knight on Oct 22, 2011 15:47:53 GMT -5
I don't think the game's region locked. Can you send me a screenshot (print screen) of your verification window?
Chances are you need to use manual verification, but I need to double check what your verification process looks like.
Also, does your code start with something like ED7PC-HK-01--? (presumably swap HK for TW)
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Post by yangxu on Oct 22, 2011 17:10:20 GMT -5
So I decided to snap up a copy of ...apparently one of the many flavors of LE for Zero no Kiseki PC as well. My brother was in Taiwan on vacation and I asked him to pick it up for me. Great price and...whole-ly crap the box is HUGE! Alas, mine did not come with any figurines of any sort. Oh well. I've got a bit of a problem trying to load up the game though. Should be straightforward...but you know how that goes. I enter the serial key from the back of the manual in the first box of the verification software and I am met with an "unknown error". Just to make sure it wasn't a mistyping I...proceeded to mistype and got an incorrect serial code error. That's good to know...I guess? I am curious if this version is region locked and that that may explain the issue? Any guesses is appreciated. Don't believe the game's region locked. The server for authentication might have been down when you attempted to verify your key. Maybe try again at a different time point? |
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Post by shinikenshi on Oct 22, 2011 21:18:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies, folks! Adol Christin?: Yeah, I was thinking about using a proxy if it came down to it I suppose. Hopefully it won't be necessary. '__')v Elena: I'm at work right now but I will get you a screenshot when I can. I should probably read up the thread as I recall you mentioning manual verification before but would that require me to e-mail joyoland's tech support? Also, yeah the serial starts with ED7TW. yangxu: I've heard some people talking about the server being an issue. Granted, I'd think if that was the case I would just get a "Can't Connect to Server" error. As far as I can tell, it looks like it makes a connection when I click (my Chinese is lousy so I could be completely wrong) and it seems to go through the entire process and right when the progress bar fills all the way it returns that "Unknown Error" message. The Chinese message before it is blah blah failure. |
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Post by Aveyn Knight on Oct 23, 2011 10:05:42 GMT -5
I got the Unknown Error message as well. I think you do need to use the manual verification like what I did; it's not much different to the normal verification and you don't need to e-mail anyone (hopefully!). Before I obtain a screenshot, I'll assume the verification is the same or similar. If your window looks different to mine, then I'd probably suggest not following my instructions to be safe. 1. Load the game until you reach the verification window. The window should hopefully look like this (Image A). Ignore the coloured circles for now! 2. Open your internet browser and go to this url: www.joyoland.com/Unlock/Unlock.aspx3. You should have this screen (Image B) on your browser. 4. In the first line (the green circle), type in your serial code in full. 5. Go back to your verification window and copy the code in the red circle of Image A. Return to your browser and paste this code in the second line (purple circle of Image B). 6. Press Submit, then press OK. You will be taken back to Image B, but there will be a new code in the third line. Copy this. 7. Return to the verification window and paste the new code in the line inbetween the red circle and the blue circle. 8. Press the button within the blue circle. You should be done now. |
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Post by bubblegumbo on Oct 23, 2011 13:01:31 GMT -5
Is Ao no Kiseki getting a PC version too? If it does for Japan I am sure there will be Chinese versions as well, but I can't seem to find any info on this. I am hoping for a PC version that I can buy in Taiwan in the future.
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Post by yangxu on Oct 23, 2011 13:24:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies, folks! yangxu: I've heard some people talking about the server being an issue. Granted, I'd think if that was the case I would just get a "Can't Connect to Server" error. As far as I can tell, it looks like it makes a connection when I click (my Chinese is lousy so I could be completely wrong) and it seems to go through the entire process and right when the progress bar fills all the way it returns that "Unknown Error" message. The Chinese message before it is blah blah failure. I think this was the case when I attempted to activate my Zwei II Plus, where the server was already known to be done, and the manual authentication was not working. I ended up emailing Interwise my CD key to get the official "crack" in order to play the game. Hopefully you can get your game running by following Elena's method! |
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Post by yangxu on Oct 23, 2011 13:32:45 GMT -5
Is Ao no Kiseki getting a PC version too? If it does for Japan I am sure there will be Chinese versions as well, but I can't seem to find any info on this. I am hoping for a PC version that I can buy in Taiwan in the future. Too early to tell, but highly likely since Ao has very few new areas that require palette re-editing for PC. The only thing holding them back is probably the massive translation work. In addition, Ys SEVEN PC is going to be released soon, they probably don't want their own releases to clash resulting in reduced sales for both titles. I suspect we won't be seeing the PC version of Ao for another year or so. |
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Post by shinikenshi on Oct 24, 2011 1:50:09 GMT -5
Yep, I needed to the manual verification. In fact, I even got a response from the technical support department (I e-mailed them in English...got a response in Chinese haha) and now all is good. Now to try this alleged hack to convert it to Japanese...I'm such a disgrace of a Chinese man.  |
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Post by bubblegumbo on Oct 30, 2011 21:25:17 GMT -5
I just started on the Taiwan version of Zero and there has been screen tearing framerates and shaking when I move around. I did not have this problem with SC or 3rd, the manual says to run the game as an Admin to stop it and I did, it didn't help.
Is anyone else having the same problem with an ATI graphics card?
Zero just seems like a half ass port job, it didn't have many options in the config menu for both control setup or graphics setup. Even SC had more functions that Zero's config menu. My framerates is clunky too even though my speccs are high enough to run this game well I tested on both the lowest display setting as well as the highest, both are equally slow and filled frame tear/screen shaking.
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Post by yangxu on Oct 31, 2011 12:17:06 GMT -5
I just started on the Taiwan version of Zero and there has been screen tearing framerates and shaking when I move around. I did not have this problem with SC or 3rd, the manual says to run the game as an Admin to stop it and I did, it didn't help. Is anyone else having the same problem with an ATI graphics card? Zero just seems like a half ass port job, it didn't have many options in the config menu for both control setup or graphics setup. Even SC had more functions that Zero's config menu. My framerates is clunky too even though my speccs are high enough to run this game well I tested on both the lowest display setting as well as the highest, both are equally slow and filled frame tear/screen shaking. These are known problems. The half ass port job was partially due to Falcom being greedy and didn't give the Chinese developers proper/high quality resources to work with. For example, the characters' sprite models were only made of 16 colors for the PSP, which result in improper coloration when you choose display settings that are not even multiples of 16 in Windows. Also, keep in mind that it's a port, it wasn't built for PC. Expecting FC/SC quality for a PSP port is rather demanding. As far as I know, the developers are collecting bug reports to address some of these problems with a patch. If the screen tearing effect you're referring to is a transparent line that goes from the bottom to the top of the screen every few seconds, it can be fixed by downloading a program from guru3d called D3D Overrider. Add the executable file (ED_ZERO.exe) to that list and choose to enable trilinear and V-sync in D3D Overrider before you start the game, problem fixed. The "shaking" problem you mentioned has been brought up a few times, the speculation was that it was probably due to up-scaling of the 3D models at resolutions higher than the native resolution for PSP. It wasn't noticeable on the PSP because the screen was small, but when you scale it up to 720p or 1080p, the problem is magnified. Unfortunately, there is no solution to this at the moment. |
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Post by bubblegumbo on Nov 1, 2011 5:23:09 GMT -5
The D3D Overrider worked perfectly, I am also playing the game in fullscreen mode now so there is no shaking. It's a disgrace that Falcom didn't give all their effort into the gaming system that was the origin of their company. I am also already annoyed that I bought the inferior collector's edition from Taiwan with less collectable items(this version is the only collector's edition available at all the stores I visited).
To add insult to injury when I tried to test the game on another less powerful PC with a NVIDIA video card, I got the message saying that I can't use this CD key again because I registered it with my other one already. Fucking hell. And then there is a online requirement for the DRM of this game which has been debated enough already.
Anyway thanks for the help, I can at least play the game now without getting irritated by the constant screen tearing.
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Post by Cloudef on Nov 1, 2011 16:49:50 GMT -5
Just got this game today, I'm really dissapointed how the PC release is. It's basically using all the PSP files with few improvements there and here (In fact you can just replace Japanese text from PSP and it works fine), and Internet seems to be full of issues also.
Guess it can't be helped when PSP has the bigger market share, but anyways quite sad, even now that they are going to release zero-full for PSPvita.
This game also works under wine nicely, if you got simhei.ttf font and dll/sound3d.dll renamed to something else, you won't have any sound however which is shame.
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