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Post by cercia on Sept 30, 2011 10:29:51 GMT -5
The new Xanadu is a departure from the wonderful second game on the PC Engine (stop me if I've made a mistake on the horribly complicated chronology here), that one was really Ys V in disguise...anyway, not that I'm hating the update but it's lacking the cuteness Im used to.  |
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Post by yotaka on Sept 30, 2011 10:40:52 GMT -5
Um... what?
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Post by Red Hairdo on Sept 30, 2011 11:00:34 GMT -5
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Post by cercia on Sept 30, 2011 11:32:39 GMT -5
I guess its just me^^, but I meant the new art style of the game, compared to the old. It gets a lot more obvious, the older you get, when you really start to see the difference between styles. I thought Xanadu was similar to Ys V in style originally. Allow me to illustrate my point: Ys V and Xanadu -  and Ys  and new vs. old:   |
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Sept 30, 2011 12:52:28 GMT -5
I could see how she could make that mistake, though. The main character's default look seems to match between LoXII and XN. It almost seems intentional.
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Post by cercia on Sept 30, 2011 12:54:53 GMT -5
Point taken. Sorry to make this mistake! Looks like I have lots to learn about it. ^^
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Sept 30, 2011 19:29:02 GMT -5
The new Xanadu is a departure from the wonderful second game on the PC Engine (stop me if I've made a mistake on the horribly complicated chronology here), that one was really Ys V in disguise...anyway, not that I'm hating the update but it's lacking the cuteness Im used to. You're right. If anything, The Legend of Xanadu II is an example of what Ys V could have been like on the PC Engine. The Bump system is used for the overhead scenes, the character sprites are large and detailed, and I don't even want to think about how awesome the Redbook audio would be. Though in LoX II they used it mostly for the cut scenes, which are incredible. In my opinion if one were to place Xanadu Next in the official Dragonslayer timeline, it would have to take place before Legend of Xanadu I & II. This is due to the Ending of LoX II, and it's subtitle, the last of Dragonslayer. |
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Post by cercia on Oct 2, 2011 3:33:53 GMT -5
See what I mean about the horrific chronology. I guess there's nothing wrong with having different games under the same title...no! Surely Falcom wouldn't do such a thing!
By the way did you know Ys introduced the idea of recharging health while resting to games? In Wikipedia the relation of Xanadu (uncute versions) to the title above hasn't been explored. 'The original Dragon Slayer and its sequel Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu are credited for being the progenitors of the action RPG genre, abandoning the command-oriented turn-based battles of previous RPGs in favour of real-time hack and slash combat that requires direct input from the player, alongside puzzle-solving elements.'
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Oct 2, 2011 3:42:08 GMT -5
Well, I don't personally know if there *is* a chronology, considering the fact that the Dragon Slayer games are all massively different from one-another.
Furthermore, I wouldn't say that Falcom has numerous games under the same *title* -- it's not like Sega, who has made Sonic Unleashed for the 360 and Wii. Both of those are two entirely different games, under the exact same title!
Whereas with Xanadu, there's:
- Xanadu
- Legend of Xanadu
- Legend of Xanadu II
- Xanadu Next
Etc.
Those titles are quite easy to differentiate from one-another. It's not like the whole Sonic Unleashed scenario in the least. ^_^;
In short, I really don't see where you're coming from.
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Post by FM-77AV on Oct 2, 2011 8:01:29 GMT -5
FYI And this is important. Please record this note and save it in at least three very safe places. The Legend of Xanadu II  |
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Oct 2, 2011 9:40:02 GMT -5
Done! I remember when I got LoX II. I saw that the cool EMS mail man had entered my workplace and I asked if he had a package for me. I got my LoX II from him at work!  Then I showed it to my boss, and he said, "oh yeah, you have a TurboGrafx." |
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Oct 2, 2011 18:58:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I recall getting LoX2 when it was still pretty rare & hard to find, & I was beyond overjoyed to get it. I later acquired another copy or 2 of it for much much cheaper, since I loved the game so much!
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Post by cercia on Oct 3, 2011 12:04:02 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Xanadu II anyway, whether it was related to Next or not.
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Post by yotaka on Oct 3, 2011 12:52:14 GMT -5
LoX II does indeed rule... but the first game had the better soundtrack.
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Post by ParanoiaDragon on Oct 3, 2011 19:10:53 GMT -5
That's debatable(sp?) as I aboslutely loved LoX2's ost over the first games anyday of the week. Not that the first was bad, it wsa great, but I adore the seconds music to death, & wish more people would do their own renditions of music from LoX2 rather then the usual LoX1.
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Post by lordkarnov42 on Oct 5, 2011 4:02:56 GMT -5
By the way did you know Ys introduced the idea of recharging health while resting to games? Hydlide (1984) would like a word with you. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 5, 2011 10:01:21 GMT -5
Hm, it seems Dragon Slayer came before that one, though. But I think you can't recharge health that way in it... Nice find. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 5, 2011 15:18:16 GMT -5
Hm, it sounds to me HG101 mis-pushed it by saying it "inspired the far-superior Ys series", though; The health regeneration aside, all else was robbed from Dragon Slayer, it seems, including the bump system, which works more similarly to Dragon Slayer than in Ys in Hydlide, and we know that one came first. That aside... nice review from them, as usual.  |
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Post by lordkarnov42 on Oct 6, 2011 14:12:17 GMT -5
The health regeneration aside, all else was robbed from Dragon Slayer, it seems, including the bump system, which works more similarly to Dragon Slayer than in Ys in Hydlide, and we know that one came first. Yeah, Hydlide's bump-attack system took a major influence from Dragon Slayer's. Then in Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu, they took a bunch of influence from Hydlide's  . In Xanadu, bumping into an enemy from the side or from behind will do more damage and you'll have less of a risk of being counterattacked, exactly like in Hydlide a year earlier. Xanadu's a much much better game though. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Oct 6, 2011 16:10:02 GMT -5
Yeah... I feel like e-mailing HG101 to correct it, though. *finds it an insulting blasphemy* Someone close enough to HG101 feeling like telling them to fix it?  I'm sure some here are close enough to Kurt Kalata? *looks at MP83* |
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Then I showed it to my boss, and he said, "oh yeah, you have a TurboGrafx."
. In Xanadu, bumping into an enemy from the side or from behind will do more damage and you'll have less of a risk of being counterattacked, exactly like in Hydlide a year earlier. Xanadu's a much much better game though.
I'm sure some here are close enough to Kurt Kalata? *looks at MP83* 
