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Post by Lore on Jun 24, 2012 16:08:40 GMT -5
Hey Guys! This is my second post so im happy to be able to talk to you =) Im done with my first Ys game. Its Ys origin. I played with Hugo first, but im also gona play with the Girl character (forgot the name) and with Toal. I started with Ys origin because i tought its a new game and i didnt know for a big storyline. For my luck it seems that Ys Origin is the actual begining of the Ys story. Am i right or wrong? Ill be playing the other Ys games too because of the great story, cool gameplay and awesome characters. If you got any suggestions, feel free to write here =) (I must apologise for my bad english grammar).
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Post by vincent on Jun 24, 2012 16:14:41 GMT -5
Play Ys 1 next ( Ys I & II Chronicle)
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Post by Lore on Jun 24, 2012 16:26:58 GMT -5
Play Ys 1 next ( Ys I & II Chronicle) Thats my plan mate =) Thats my plan! |
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Post by yotaka on Jun 24, 2012 16:55:08 GMT -5
Yes, Origin chronologically predates all the other games by 700 years. It sort of assumes you've played at least I-II first for reasons you'll see when you play Chronicles but it's not going to cripple your enjoyment of either game or anything like that.
Also, definitely beat the game with Yunica before playing as Toal. I assume you're playing the Steam version where playing him before beating both other scenarios is even an option.
For advice on other games, if you liked Origin you should definitely try Oath in Felghana, either on Steam or the PSP.
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Post by Lore on Jun 25, 2012 10:53:56 GMT -5
Yes, Origin chronologically predates all the other games by 700 years. It sort of assumes you've played at least I-II first for reasons you'll see when you play Chronicles but it's not going to cripple your enjoyment of either game or anything like that. Also, definitely beat the game with Yunica before playing as Toal. I assume you're playing the Steam version where playing him before beating both other scenarios is even an option. For advice on other games, if you liked Origin you should definitely try Oath in Felghana, either on Steam or the PSP. You are right xD I must play with both Hugo and Yunica to unlock Toal and after that im done with the game. Its importiant that i understand the begining of the Ys story and im happy i could start with origin. I downloaded Oath in Felghana but since i dont know wich part of the story that is i believe its something what happens after the 6 games? Im not sure about it so yea. Are the normal Ys I&II different from the Chronicles? And if yes, how good is the graphic and that? I wouldnt like to play the old versions ahahah xD |
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Post by yotaka on Jun 25, 2012 17:12:05 GMT -5
Here's the in-universe chronology:
Ys Origin
Ys I (700 years after Origin)
Ys II (a few minutes after I)
Ys IV (about a year after II)
Ys III/Oath in Felghana (about a year after IV)
Ys V (about a year after III/Oath)
Ys VI (3 years after V)
Ys Seven (6 months after VI)
In the real world, Oath in Felghana came out after Ys VI and retconned a big chunk of the story of Ys III but you don't have to wait until you've played VI to play it. The only absolute essential is that you play I and II in order.
Also, I-II Chronicles is the most current version of those games. It's a port of Ys I and II Complete for the PC with some extra goodies. The graphics are the same (aside from screen size of course) but the PSP version adds the option of seeing an alternate style of character portaits (at the start of the game, no swapping midway). There's also extras like a boss rush and the ability to chose between three soundtrack arrangements (original PC88, Complete and the all new Chronicles version).
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Post by Lore on Jun 26, 2012 3:13:50 GMT -5
Here's the in-universe chronology: Ys Origin Ys I (700 years after Origin) Ys II (a few minutes after I) Ys IV (about a year after II) Ys III/Oath in Felghana (about a year after IV) Ys V (about a year after III/Oath) Ys VI (3 years after V) Ys Seven (6 months after VI) In the real world, Oath in Felghana came out after Ys VI and retconned a big chunk of the story of Ys III but you don't have to wait until you've played VI to play it. The only absolute essential is that you play I and II in order. Also, I-II Chronicles is the most current version of those games. It's a port of Ys I and II Complete for the PC with some extra goodies. The graphics are the same (aside from screen size of course) but the PSP version adds the option of seeing an alternate style of character portaits (at the start of the game, no swapping midway). There's also extras like a boss rush and the ability to chose between three soundtrack arrangements (original PC88, Complete and the all new Chronicles version). So now i can play I-II Chronicles ? No need to play the normal versions? That would be rly rly cool =) |
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Post by yotaka on Jun 26, 2012 9:16:53 GMT -5
Chronicles is the 'normal version'.
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Post by Xalphenos on Jun 26, 2012 9:40:52 GMT -5
IMHO complete is the better version though I admit to having a bias against the tiny psp screen. However if you have a psp chronicals is probably easier to get and you are supporting a great company if you buy it new.
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 26, 2012 10:08:08 GMT -5
I prefer Complete too because of the framerate, but the PSP Chronicles is still excellent, plus the part about helping XSEED.
As for "normal" version, I think he meant non-remake.
They all are 99% the same story-wise. You can play any and be happy all the same. Chronicles/Complete might be even better when taking Ys Origin into consideration.
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Post by yotaka on Jun 26, 2012 17:05:51 GMT -5
Well if he's looking for non-remakes I hope he enjoys retro gaming because the only versions of Ys I and II that aren't remakes are for the PC88.  |
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Post by Lore on Jun 27, 2012 7:28:20 GMT -5
Well if he's looking for non-remakes I hope he enjoys retro gaming because the only versions of Ys I and II that aren't remakes are for the PC88. Thats the prob i want that remake versions i dont rly enjoy retro gameing xD So i would like any pc version just so i can follow this awesome storyline guys xD Also if you have any download links for that games, pls link it here =) |
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Post by Lore on Jun 27, 2012 10:14:50 GMT -5
Guys! Im officaly done with Ys Origin and know everything about how the storyline started =9 Im sad that this is 700 years before Ys 1. I like Hugo.He's an interesting character and his family too =) Well, now its time to continue on with the story but i still dont know what version of ys1 i should play. Defenitly not the retro hahaa  Pls give suggestions for the most best one with a good graphic. Also, if you have a download link for wich you are sure it works, post it here pls =) |
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Post by Xalphenos on Jun 27, 2012 11:59:02 GMT -5
that's the prob I want that remake versions I don't really enjoy retro gaming xD so I would like any PC version just so I can follow this awesome storyline guys xD Also if you have any download links for that games, please link it here =) Well Complete isn't too retro. If you can't read Japanese your only options that aren't retro are Complete for PC or Chronicles for PSP. No links will be posted here. Piracy isn't allowed here. Being a community of Ys fans we generally like to support the franchise. Someone, certainly wont be me, may help you out with that but it would have to be privately. I suggest no further requests for links. |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Jun 27, 2012 13:23:19 GMT -5
seldane.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=5702&page=1The idea is that whatever game can bring profit to companies (more than anything: Falcom for the very games and XSEED for bringing them to us), it shouldn't be shared in ALoY. It's the case of games like Ys Origin, Chronicles, Complete etc.. It's not the case of, say, Ys III for SNES. Falcom Classics on Sega Saturn. Ys II Special. And others. So those are fine. Although, the current rules aren't that logical, and in my opinion, need a serious revamp, mainly because a LOT of games from which companies can NOT get ANY abysmal profit from still cannot be shared. The rules were made up in the first place, because at some odd given point in time things went out of hand and it was felt proper "rules" needed to be established to draw a borderline, and then the opportunity to draw one for piracy has appeared. Which is good, but IMHO wasn't handled/drawn properly, as discussed in the rules thread I just linked to. But that's another matter for another day in another thread.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Jun 27, 2012 13:58:23 GMT -5
Another reason for the piracy policy is that we are not a piracy forum. There are plenty of sites and forums out there for that purpose, but ALoY generally isn't one of them.  I don't like raining on your parade. We all know that you really want to distribute Ys Eternal -- and ultimately, as many Ys and Falcom games as you can possibly fit into a single archive, but that would cause issues for XSEED, being that Eternal is the very source for Ys Complete and Ys Chronicles. Furthermore, it's not as though XSEED hasn't considered porting Ys Complete to Steam -- if they do, who would seriously consider buying Ys Complete after playing Ys Eternal? In theory, it's nice to say that you will buy everything that you try out or pirate, but how many people actually do? |
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Post by Lore on Jun 27, 2012 14:47:45 GMT -5
I feel horrible again xD Sorry i didnt mean to do this by asking for links. Point is i rly want to support those ppl who made this awesome game. I enjoy it and like the storyline. So pls dont think bad about me xD But i cant support them since i cant buy their games here :/ And to buy with a credit card...complicated story haha =D Allright i got much suggestions and nice posts =) Thanks guys and sorry again. Hope you rly wont think bad about me for this!
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Post by Xalphenos on Jun 27, 2012 15:10:18 GMT -5
Is Ys eternal really all that diferent from complete? I was under the impression that complete was basically just slightly updated.
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Post by yotaka on Jun 27, 2012 16:29:53 GMT -5
The graphics and sound are a bit better and the item artwork was redone (I actually prefer the Eternal art myself) and I think they might have tweaked the character artwork as well but I can't remember. In any event it's not nearly the kind of change as, say, PCE to Eterna. I feel horrible again xD Sorry I didn't mean to do this by asking for links. Point is i really want to support those ppl who made this awesome game. S'okay, we won't get out the torches and pitchforks. Anyhow, like Xalphenos said your only options in English if you don't want a retro gaming experience are I-II Complete for the PC (with the fan translation patch) or I-II Chronicles for the PSP. If ordering online is a problem for you, Chronicles is your only option though. |
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Post by Xalphenos on Jun 27, 2012 17:07:56 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I thought. Thanks.
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Pls give suggestions for the most best one with a good graphic. Also, if you have a download link for wich you are sure it works, post it here pls =)
