here comes another Mega Man ZX... unsurprisingly

[Inochi 命]

Mega Man ZX Advent
EDIT: one more link --> gonintendo.com/?p=13187

At least they didn't call it ZX 2. but gosh, capcom... slow down already. A year doesn't go by without at least one new mega man game (and Star Force comes out this year too, but i'm not getting that one). I haven't even gotten to the first ZX yet! At least I won't have to get another Castlevania this year I'll use that time to catch up on PoR.

I grew tired of the milking a very long time ago... but I will continue buying them. Well, it depends on how much I like ZX to determine whither or not i'll get advent, though. Inti Creates may have saved the franchise for me with Zero, but unfortunately they're not devoid of Capcom's terrible milking problem either. But what's to complain about? It's either this, or joining SF in death. Mega Man has so much more potential for a bright new future, but nothing will ever come of it.

[FM-77AV]

Wow. How unexpected.

If they're going to milk old series, at least they could be a bit cheaper than real games.

[Inochi 命]

I think it's Keiji Inafune's fault... or maybe just Capcom's producers in general. Their older franchises are no longer a serious thought to them and are left for the quick bucks, or if they find their developers not making them good cash they just disband them. Okami was made by Clover... we'll never be able to find out if they were gonna cash in the same way for their games as they never got a chance to make more than 2 games in any of their series before they disbanded. and wasn't Resident Evil going the same way untill Mikami had his way and finaly decided to change things up with 4 (which was also nearly going to become exactly like it's predecessors)? Keiji, the father of the Mega Man franchise, moved on to stuff like Onimusha and, more recently, Lost Planet and Dead Rising... he's almost totally moved away from doing Mega Man himself.

They're not milking the franchise, though. It's each separate series within the franchise that's getting milked. Mega Man only really changes with each new series in the franchise, and ZX is quite different from Mega Man on NES. But each of those series contain games which are basically like yearly episodic content. The Battle Network series is seriously the worst offender from capcom, though. The "new" addition to the series, Star Force, is being released in THREE different versions. It's like a crappy version of Nintendo's cash cow, Pokemon, but much worse of a cash cow than even that.

[Inochi 命]

This is Mega Man Star Force (or, Ryusei no Rockman in Japan)

[Inochi 命]

I've heard about SEEDS (why does that name sound familiar... final fantasy? heh) sounds like the same thing as clover, making me wonder why they disbanded it in the first place. Lets see if they'll be working on more Viewtiful Joe, Okami, etc or if they've abandoned those for something new.

I really like Mega Man. It's one of my top 5 favorite series... but I'm not a fan that can turn a blind eye to what Capcom's doing with it. Mega Man has much more potential than this. X, Legends, Battle Network/Network Transmission, Zero, and ZX are all part of the same franchise but are different series.. they're all different enough from each other to warrant that. But Mega Man is capable of so much more if given the right time and budget.

You know, konami has kinda been doing the same with Castlevania on GBA and DS, only they went a step further with their games and didn't reuse the same sprites and gameplay mechanics every time. The Zero series kept nearly everything identical, making each release in the series feel like an extension of the previous game instead of a new game.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Well, I'm thrilled about this personally. As the ZX games are pretty damn close to what I want! Megatroid! The ZX games got the Castleroid thing going on, & I love it!! The Battle Network games can bite me, those suck. The Zero series, which I own, I haven't goten into yet. The original & X series are great, with the exception of a couple games(7 & X7 being my least favorite).

[Inochi 命]

I'd probably say the same thing as you right now... if I had played ZX by now

seriously, what I don't like about this is... it's like, on an exactly 1 year schedule. let us take a breather, already! (I guess i'm being selfish cuz I really want to get rid of my back-breaking backlog... heh)

it's X > Zero >> Legends > Originals for me so far, but I've really enjoyed them all (except Battle Network, which I think I would like, but I really don't want to risk it). Zero came close to toppling X as a series, if only they had spread out the games a little better and not seemed so much like a Cash Cow by the 3rd game. The best things about it were that it was awesome when the X series was starting to loose it's awesomeness, it took up 4 really well-thought-out games, then ended it cleanly and without question. The X series lost it's luster with X5 for me. It's just that X3 was the pinacle in the series, then it went a little downhill... X8 kind of redeemed it but I still find even X4 to be better than it. X8 may have been way better than X7, but it still has so many things in it that shouldn't have been.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I hope X8 isn't the end of the series(not that I've beaten it yet, as I too have a ridiculous back log of games to beat!).

[Inochi 命]

I doubt X8 is the last (I beat it... it wouldn't make sense to end it there, trust me)... but Keiji doesn't seem very enthusiastic to continue it. I think he was trying to get gamers back in to the series with the remakes on PSP, as well as bring the developers back to their roots, but it kind of backfired with the games not selling as well as anticipated. If X9 is supposed to be the series finale, I don't know if he'll ever figure out how to pull it off well enough.

Personally, I think they really should go back to X3 and work from there. X8 had all these horrible rail-stages, something that started with X4 but has gotten worse since then... why should we be confined to a single Ride Armor throughout an entire stage? what ever happened to mounting our own Ride Armor whenever we want, IF we want? what happened to choice? X and Zero should be starting on their feet in every stage... that reminds me, Axl... can't wait to see how that turns out, heh. Anyways, I think the series has been trying to move ahead with gimmicks instead of real innovation, and that has to change. MM Zero was that change, imo... it did the kind of things that the X series should have done.

Inti creates should work on X9, i'm serious when I say that. I don't know if they would nail it, but they have a better chance. Even the team that made X8 will definitely end up making X9 mediocre.

[sideshow]

Keiji should make a megaman game using the Onimusha engine. puzzle solving/shooter. Thats how the newer megaman games should of been.

[Inochi 命]

I haven't played the remakes, but I have heard the music. I think it wasn't bad, but often it's hard for arranges to top the originals... I do think that if that music was used on the 2D original it would have ruined some of the same feel. Take, for example, how much slower the arrange for Armored Armadillo sounds in the remake... that'd never work with the fast pace in that stage... at least, not in the original (I don't know if they actually slowed the stage down in the remake). And my favorite from the original game, Spark Mandrill's stage music, came out sounding a little more on the silly side and not as cool as the original. I think the best arrange that came out of the remake was the Sigma Stage 1 music... it sound identical to the original but "cleaner".

And, while I bet it'd be more fun to play with Zero than Vile, I think it'd be a little tough to let him have his own mode, knowing what his fate is and all. Being able to play as vile was probably my only reason for wanting the remake, actually. He was one of my most favorite boss characters in gaming as a kid.

[sideshow]

There needs to be a new console megaman game that completely transforms the series. You saw how awesome Resident Evil 4 was and the series needed it cause that series was getting stale. I dont know why Capcom doesnt put the effort into doing the same for megman. There can be a really awesome 3D megaman game, it just needs a very talented development team to take it on. Let the new SEEDS dev team try it out I say.

[Inochi 命]

Yeah, i don't see why it'd be so hard to pull off a 3D game for the Mega Man series. Legends almost got it... a lot of fans actually love that little series, including me (more for Legends 2, though).

Maybe it's that currently unnamed "action-adventure game 2" that capcom has planned for the Wii... hmm. I don't know about any of you, but I'd personally find it really cool to freely control a mega buster.

They should make it something like Legends X... or just Legends 3, but with a lot of moves being borrowed from X to make it a little more fast paced (dashing, charging, maybe even ride armor). And if Mario could do wall jumping in a 3D space since the beginning of 3D, why can't Mega Man?

[Falcom Director of Fanservice]

*Looks at the Street Fighter series*
*Looks at the Megamen Serieses*

I refuse to believe Capcom had anything to do with making RE4. It just wasn't lazy enough.

[Inochi 命]

One day, Resident Evil will be in the same sorry state...

unless, Capcom took 3D as some kind of revolution where no 2D would be spared They seem to focus on more mature titles since then too. I didn't ever expect Inafune to ever do a game like Dead Rising... or even Onimusha before that. I was expecting Mikami to be the one behind Onimusha. Then, Inafune's also been known to consider Nintendo as on the kiddy side... this from the guy who made Mega Man >_<

but just wait till 4D, Resident Evil! Your time will come!

but im sure you guys realize how much time and money they put in to RE4... they actually took the risk of completely changing their idea for the game more than once. They would NEVER do this with SF and Mega Man... it's old crap to them now, just extra profit.

[sideshow]

I believe Inafune had some part in the new Lost Planet game although I dont believe any Megaman references are used like Dead Rising.

[Inochi 命]

Well, he was the producer on both those games, not the director... but they were both his ideas, from what i've read... or at least, he did put a lot of influence into those games. He is probably like what Miyamoto is to Iwata's Zelda games now. He definitely had more hand in them than he did on games like RE2, though.

I've just remembered that Inafune is actually working on something for Wii... here's hoping it's a new Legends.

[Inochi 命]

I'm all for the new IPs, I know it's an easy way to avoid staleness in a new game, but why leave a good but old series for scraps? Why is it that Resident Evil series was allowed a comeback? Maybe a Mega Man Legends 3 wouldn't do nearly as well as a new IP, even if done right, but if Inafune takes his experience from the Legends series and combines it with what's best about other parts of the franchise and makes a whole new series, it might reinvigorate the franchise... sort of what SOTN did for Castlevania (except this would appeal to more people). Inafune should be able to see what did and didn't work out in the series and I'm sure he had a lot of ideas from when making MML that didn't come to be due to limitations and stuff. Why he doesn't try a new 3D mega man with the production values of at least Dead Rising is beyond me (and it'd be cheaper to develop for Wii anyways).

A new IP is usually a good idea, but that's all Inafune has been really coming out with lately. I would condemn a remake, rehash, sequel, or a port over a new IP, but a next-big-leap in a franchise is about on-par with a new IP in my book.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Quite frankly, I'm sick of new series! I just try to stick to prequals & sequals, stuff I'm familiar with, plus, I spend less money that way

[FM-77AV]

As much as RE4 rules, it is a Capcom game, and it needs to be milked accordingly.

Take a look at the recent PC release (duh! When's the X0 one coming? And the PS3 version?) of this game. SUPER UGLY. This game needs to be played in low res, on an SDTV, everything else is torture:


It almost looks like an N64 game now.