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Post by fireinthehole on Mar 14, 2013 8:50:23 GMT -5
You are right, yotaka. But still, I think a lot more was done to Joshua in addition to just Jedi mind tricks and words if the artificial stigma is anything to go by. BTW, other than the four new characters introduced for Sen, we have some familiar face:
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Post by yotaka on Mar 14, 2013 10:25:28 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that there wasn't anything else to the process, I just meant that in that one scene there's no indication of any more than that. I presume that Weissmann did whatever it was he did to implant that Stigma while he was 'fixing' Joshua, which is well before Ouroboros had its run-in with the Cult. And that image? No surprise whatsoever. The only question is how ridiculous (or ridiculously awesome) his thefts will be this time.
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Post by yotaka on Mar 14, 2013 16:37:12 GMT -5
Which raises the question of 'what the hell is she doing there?!'. Especially since that's definitely not Crossbell below them. Is it Grancel? Somewhere in Erebonia? It came part and parcel with a tweet about the next issue of SenMaga for whatever that's worth.
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Post by awildseaking on Mar 15, 2013 1:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by fireinthehole on Mar 22, 2013 12:24:46 GMT -5
I gotta admit Machias looks like an obvious choice for a spy (and a member of the Iron Breed) for Osbourne considering his noble-hating attitude. There is another silhouette released for a new character: Hmm, if she is a party member, then she looks like an arts specialist. Still, I am surprised that we don't have any loli character yet.
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Post by yotaka on Mar 22, 2013 14:01:52 GMT -5
I'll be positively shocked if there aren't one or two in Thors, though my thinking is that Class VII is probably screened to make sure it's 'clean' in that respect.
As for this girl, I think she's new. Can't be either of our current mystery girls because her hair is long (so not silver-hair) and unbound (so not purple-hair). Definitely has the vibe of an Arts specialist if she's playable but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they start to reveal more NPCs.
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Post by fireinthehole on Mar 26, 2013 22:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by yotaka on Mar 28, 2013 23:31:53 GMT -5
She's a possibility for something but I'm thinking maybe Osborne's agent, if one managed to get into Class VII. Machias seems too obvious for that role and I'm nearly certain Olivier is behind the creation of Class VII and trying to keep the really obvious spies out. I don't know if Ouroboros would consider a school a good place to hide an operative although it's possible, especially if they have any reason to suspect some link between Thors and a Septerion. We'll definitely see a lot of them in this arc, given how long Ouroboros has been interested in the Empire and how they've been sending agents in en masse as of the end of Ao. Oh, and I'm crossing my fingers for more Ein and more of the Church in general. No obvious Dominion candidates so far though. Ie, nobody with green hair.
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Post by awildseaking on Mar 31, 2013 3:00:10 GMT -5
So I was replaying Zero no Kiseki (evolution) and I got to the part where you rescue KeA from the Black Auction. I noticed that as you flee Michelam, you eventually run into a group of Revache mobsters armed with tommy guns. For some reason, Tio stopped and pointed out that these were Reinford weapons. Maybe I just missed this, but is there a possibility that Reinford was working with Gilias to try and destabilize Crossbell by supplying weapons to the mafia? After all, Ao takes place (2?) years later and Erebonia invades so I can only imagine that this plan is not some spur of the moment decision. Since Sen takes place before Zero and Ao, maybe Garcia, Marconi and Hartman will reappear? Lecter was at the auction too so maybe he was there on behalf of Gilias to keep an eye on the mafia? I didn't really understand why Kirika and Lecter were at the auction so I'm really speculating there. For that matter, I don't really know why most of these factions are doing anything, Heiyue especially. Why the hell is Calvard so far removed from the plot in every aspect?
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Post by fireinthehole on Apr 25, 2013 18:29:06 GMT -5
Three new characters introduced: www.esterior.net/2013/04/new-dengeki-leak-for-sen-no-kiseki-4232013/Gaius looks like a potential candidate for the dominion knight if his weapon is of any indication. I am expecting more than one knight to appear this time around. Also, I think it's rather obvious that Claire is related to Tio and Renne, considering her sky-blue hair and extraordinary computing ability. Perhaps, Osbourne may have supported the cult of Gnosis in order to obtain children with extraordinary abilities? I am not too sure about Rufus other than that he seems to be an ally of Olivier. I would like to see at least one of Olivier's family members at this point.
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Post by yotaka on Apr 25, 2013 23:39:44 GMT -5
Maybe I just missed this, but is there a possibility that Reinford was working with Gilias to try and destabilize Crossbell by supplying weapons to the mafia? After all, Ao takes place (2?) years later and Erebonia invades so I can only imagine that this plan is not some spur of the moment decision. Since Sen takes place before Zero and Ao, maybe Garcia, Marconi and Hartman will reappear? Lecter was at the auction too so maybe he was there on behalf of Gilias to keep an eye on the mafia? I didn't really understand why Kirika and Lecter were at the auction so I'm really speculating there. For that matter, I don't really know why most of these factions are doing anything, Heiyue especially. Why the hell is Calvard so far removed from the plot in every aspect? On the time question, Ao takes place a few months after Zero, not several years. Six months at the outside. We don't know when Sen takes place although we know it has to predate the end of Ao. It's not set as far back as some English-language news sites would have you believe and it's very likely that the story will take us through to the events of Zero if not the end of Ao itself (leaving the full aftermath for the inevitable sequel) depending on how you want to interpret what Falcom has said about the meaning of the title. For the other questions... Reinford makes goods for export as well as for internal use, as can be seen by about a third of the handguns/orbal cannons used in the Sora trilogy and Elie's guns in Crossbell. Certainly, it's well within the scope of Erebonia and Calvard's 'shadow war' to try and destabilize things in that sort of fashion, especially since Revache has ties to Crossbell's pro-Empire politicians. Asking why Lechter does anything is an exercise in frustration. We know he's Osborne's errand boy/spy and one of the Iron Breed but his ultimate loyalties are an open question. For all we know, he's the Fourth Pillar of Ouroboros pretending to be a Grals Ritter pretending to be a reverse double-agent Erebonian spy. Calvard is out of the spotlight because they're not the faction that's been set up since FC as a can of worms to be opened one day. Set up for future games, yes (hi Yun Kafei!) but not to the same extent as Erebonia. Heiyue (which originated in the Republic) is there for its own reasons. They want to muscle in on Revache's territory. Gaius looks like a potential candidate for the dominion knight if his weapon is of any indication. I am expecting more than one knight to appear this time around. Also, I think it's rather obvious that Claire is related to Tio and Renne, considering her sky-blue hair and extraordinary computing ability. Perhaps, Osbourne may have supported the cult of Gnosis in order to obtain children with extraordinary abilities? I am not too sure about Rufus other than that he seems to be an ally of Olivier. I would like to see at least one of Olivier's family members at this point. Assuming Gaius' background isn't hiding anything, I doubt he's had the necessary combination of trauma and Artifact in his life to make him a Dominion. Plus, no green hair, assuming they keep that pattern. I honestly don't think any of our students are undercover Dominion, going with what we've seen. Maybe an ordinary Knight or Squire, though most of the cast seems to have fairly well-defined pasts that preclude spending time training as Grals Ritter... except Fie, possibly.
I'm definitely looking forward to Gaius, about time we had a permanent ally who uses a spear.
For Claire, she's good at command and decision-making, not 'computing' per se. I'm 99% convinced that her resemblance to Tio is a red herring. It's too obvious and it doesn't fit well with Tio's background (her family is from Remiferia). My guess, we'll find out that her full name is Claire Gunter. Also, because it can't be said enough: Arcus has nine slots... and the Link system looks like it could be really neat.
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Post by fireinthehole on Apr 26, 2013 3:17:42 GMT -5
For Claire, she's good at command and decision-making, not 'computing' per se. I'm 99% convinced that her resemblance to Tio is a red herring. It's too obvious and it doesn't fit well with Tio's background (her family is from Remiferia). My guess, we'll find out that her full name is Claire Gunter. Actually, when I mentioned the connection to Tio and Renne, I meant that she may be a user of gnosis. She is 24 so she's little too old to be one of the children who were experimented on. I don't think she is related to Tio by blood, but I am convinced that her exceptional ability as a commander is related to the experiments the cult conducted. That would explain her loyalty to Osbourne if my theory about Osbourne's supporting the cult and your theory about her family name are correct since that would mean he provided the cover for her after the destruction of the cult. As for the Dominion Knights, I kinda don't want the hair color of green of all things to be the indicator. That would make it little too obvious.
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Post by fireinthehole on May 30, 2013 6:17:37 GMT -5
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Post by yotaka on May 31, 2013 23:47:53 GMT -5
Where did you get the drama CD information from? Edit: Oh wait, I see now. It looks like the special drama cd will include material not in the actual game but which concerns certain major endgame events. It doesn't specifically say material cut from the game, just material that's not in the game. For all we know it's a scene of the characters lounging in beanbag chairs in Fie's room drinking booze they lifted from Sara's secret stash, while talking about the shocking twist that Eliot really is Tio's son, somehow. Obviously we wouldn't need a scene like that because we'd have seen the twist for ourselves. Seriously though, with drama ccds they do tend to throw in extra scenes that probably were never intended to actually appear in-game. You could probably describe FC's drama cd using much the same terms, since it takes place during the epilogue but almost entirely off-camera, concerns major endgame events and does include some significant additional material. Anyhow, I doubt Angelica is going to be a boss (although the way the series is going, Rean could turn out to be the big bad and I wouldn't entirely be surprised), much more likely she and Sara and probably Towa are going to be guest characters who may or may not graduate to full PC status in the inevitable second game. Sara is already sorted as a secondary character and we had a similar situation in Zero.
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Post by fireinthehole on Jun 1, 2013 21:53:44 GMT -5
I was thinking more along the line of friendly NPC boss fights like the one we had in Ao but yeah, the guest character is probably more likely. Or maybe they will be both, like Yin in Zero I get a feeling that the main villain in this game is someone important in the nobles' faction (maybe Rufus?), who turn out to be an unwitting pawn to Ouroborus (as usual) and whose defeat causes Olivier and nobles to lose face and allows Osbourne to effectively control the empire. Then, the next game will reveal that it was all planned in advance by Ouroborus.
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Post by yotaka on Jun 2, 2013 11:14:18 GMT -5
We pretty much know that's where we're going to end up, even if we don't know exactly how we get there yet. Your suggestion is certainly a good possibility between what we know and what it would offer in story/character development. And given how long Ouroboros has been planning things and how Crossbell was only Stage 1 in the Phantom Flame Plan, I am not betting money against their being ultimately responsible for whatever happens in this game. Oh, and I suppose I shouldn't dismiss the additional possibility of friendly fights against other students/teachers, this being a military academy and all.
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Post by fireinthehole on Jun 11, 2013 21:10:25 GMT -5
Two new characters today: Victor S. Arseid - Laura's father. The imperial princess Alpine. Finally, someone related to Olivier!
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Post by yotaka on Jun 12, 2013 1:00:35 GMT -5
After Angelica, care to take bets that Alfin follows her big brother's lead and enjoys hitting on people regardless of gender? Anyhow, first time we've seen any of his family (someone showing up in Sen was always a given even before they hinted at the Astraea connection a while back) so that's cool. Laura's daddy looks awesome, wonder if the possibility of some father/daughter training (in the form of an optional boss battle) to learn a new Craft is an option Falcom would consider?
There was also a scan (quality about as readable) of the Orbment system. The big takeaway is that characters now can have more than one elemental restriction. Rean has not only Fire-locked Slots but a Time one as well.
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Post by yotaka on Jul 10, 2013 21:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by fireinthehole on Jul 12, 2013 0:29:07 GMT -5
Maybe the girl with the gigantic robot is KeA Mk.II? I really hate these cute girls with supernatural abilities. I don't have a problem with the concept itself but it's how they are (over)used that annoys me. We already had Tita, Renne, Tio, and KeA in the Kiseki series alone. I am more curious about the gigantic humanoid robots that appeared several times by now: the one that looks like the potential final boss and another that looks like a knight. Also, I wonder if the cat that Sarah adopts is a godbeast-in-disguise? I guess we will found out soon enough.
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