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Post by Justin on Nov 8, 2009 1:33:45 GMT -5
Oh come on Wyrd, there is nothing wrong with working for Bandai.
**DUCK FOR COVER!!!!**
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Post by tancients on Nov 8, 2009 18:35:59 GMT -5
I remember when Vivendi fired good people even though there wasn't an economy slump. I don't think me, or any of the other people who worked at the original Sierra will ever really forgive that horrible excuse for a company.
I've been tempted to go to Japan just to work at McDonalds, because at least they're fucking hiring. Maybe I really should just go get unemployment. Not that it'd be much anyway.
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Post by Este on Nov 8, 2009 20:04:43 GMT -5
My friends and I are all getting ready to graduate and although I'm ducking out of the way from the economy by applying to grad school, they're all definitely feeling the bad market. I feel like we are all fairly desirable as we've all done internships and have good grades, but even the best of us aren't getting hired. Not sure what I'm gonna do if I don't get accepted into any schools... maybe peace corps or what wyrdy was talking about with going to Japan.
On that note, I feel for you wyrdy. I've been let go from summer jobs just because we were overstaffed and that sucked... can't imagine working for 6 years and getting that. It's cool that you can make this a turning point in your life though, rather than let it be a roadblock.
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Post by Ashurei on Nov 8, 2009 21:39:34 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that, wyrd. Hope things work out for ya. =/
Gogo Falcom app!
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Nov 9, 2009 3:52:25 GMT -5
Hmmm... this is true, but other such things of concern:
I'm working on 2., (mental health -- or in my case, emotional health; I'm mentally healthy, but I allow my emotions to divide my attention and affect my enthusiasm, motivation and dedication) but I still haven't given 15. any kind of real thought beyond my general aggravation with textbooks. (Not being able to read them properly.)
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Nov 9, 2009 8:48:01 GMT -5
Hmmm... that may be a worthy alternative. That's always been me, though; cutting corners, taking the quickest possible route, and getting there -- even if that means low-income government housing on minimum wage. I wonder if there are schools/classes in Japan I could possibly attend on the side of such alternative plans, to learn the language while I'm there.
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Post by tancients on Nov 9, 2009 17:23:10 GMT -5
I'm all too familiar with how companies handle libel. heh If it weren't for this one thing I'm trying to take care of, I would've left the US over two years ago when I started my freelance translation work (Which, thanks to the economy slump globally killed most of my market). So if anyone is willing to loan $10k, at some high interest rate, or knows any quick way to get that much without having a job (Or can just get me a job anywhere in Canada/US!), I'm open.  Once I've got the money, then I can finish what I want to finish and get out of here and move forward with my life again. Stagnation really drives me nuts. |
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Post by Este on Nov 9, 2009 18:08:21 GMT -5
And the best answer I can come up with is, because I made more money than anyone else on the team. Having gotten higher performance reviews in the past, I got significantly higher raises each year, leading to a pretty big gap between my salary and the second-highest... and I seriously think that's what did me in. These layoffs were a cost-cutting measure, and clearly, I was costing the company more than anyone else on the team, so I was the most expendable. So yeah... getting a significant raise about two years ago actually ended up screwing me over. In engineering, they tell you not to go to graduate school before going to work for the same reason. It costs too much to hire someone with a graduate diploma... and they generally get higher pay raises too. Combine that with someone who has little to no work experience and it creates a situation that makes it hard for that person to find work even in an ok economy. I know you're more qualified than a grad student fresh from school, but it probably makes sense to cut one good person rather than two or three ok workers. Unless those guys really aren't pulling their weight in which case they should've gone first. If it makes you feel any better, I would have to guess that it wasn't an easy decision for your supervisor to make and he/she probably feels sort of shitty now. At least you're not flat on your ass; you have a few months to look around and organize yourself... plus you have options that you spelled out.  |
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Post by Red Hairdo on Nov 9, 2009 19:17:25 GMT -5
Hmmm... A bit over a decade ago, Apple (the PC guys, yeah) had a certain office here in São Paulo (Brazil), where one certain cousin of mine, who was and still is one HELL of an IT specialist, especially concerning Apple's computers, used to work at. He started in a rather low position, only to quickly make his way up to the highest ones. When he already became the manager, what did they do? Fired him. Why? Too much cost. He was fired for being the best, same as you, Wyrd. xD (Nowadays he's doing really well, so I'm pretty sure so will you.  ) That's not all, though... I have that one friend in college who was looking for a job an year ago. But she was having a lot of trouble to get one. Then she decided to modify her CV a bit by removing some data, like some of the things she knew regarding IT, english knowledge etc.. And what do you know, she managed to get a job real quick after that. She theorized that's because the companies that saw her CV could have been afraid that they wouldn't have a good-enough salary for someone like her. (She just wanted SOME job, whatever that job was, so she didn't care.) That's more or less backed up by sgp6's post just now, I think. Well, I'm just reporting. I thought that those stories could catch up someone's interest here. xD Also: Hmmm... that may be a worthy alternative. That's always been me, though; cutting corners, taking the quickest possible route, and getting there -- even if that means low-income government housing on minimum wage. I wonder if there are schools/classes in Japan I could possibly attend on the side of such alternative plans, to learn the language while I'm there. Absolutely. If nothing else, there are lots of options for correspondence courses. You know, I REALLY like the sound of that. It won't be anytime soon, but... there is a chance I might end up considering doing something like that in the future. And I'm totally showing this to Kiyuki. I'm totally sure this will catch up his interest. He has already been making plans for going to and living in Japan for some good time now. (About an year.) Perhaps he would be interested in some of the possibilities presented here. |
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Post by arukimi on Nov 10, 2009 3:07:23 GMT -5
JET actually takes people outside of USA/Canada/England?
You know, I've always known about JET but never really searched for info about it...so for some reason, I guess I just ended up concluding it was restricted to "those" countries.
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Post by tancients on Nov 10, 2009 3:12:39 GMT -5
I can say with 90% certainty that JET would turn me away due to my birth defect (For which I need the money to get rid of...).
Though I don't even have the money for a doctor's appointment to even see if I get lucky with that 10%, so meh.
Suicide IS an option!
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Post by Gamemusicfreak on Nov 10, 2009 8:54:47 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about what happened, Tom. The decision to let you go could come back and bite them big time. It's what occurred with Circuit City. The company started letting go of it's longtime, highest paid and experienced associates, and as a result, they're in big trouble now.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Nov 10, 2009 10:53:40 GMT -5
Sucky news, Wyrdwad, but I know you'll be okay. Unlike me, you already have some plans.  I've been jobless for almost a year and I still don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do. It's a good thing Finland has decent unemployment benefits, because otherwise I'd be really depressed. I feel for you, buddy. I've been in the same slump for almost about as long, but I don't get any checks to help me out; not a penny in my pocket. It's not so bad whenever DBS MKII actually gets business, though. I hope to figure something out soon. // So doing some actual research, I could do something alternative like Wyrd was saying, and in addition, I could take the Kumon JLP correspondence courses? This is quite intriguing. So I must find an Eikaiwa (English Conversation School) program? Would they handle the necessities (housing, etc.) as JET does? Hmmm... there's one hole here, however. Quoting wiki: "Teachers coming from countries that do not have a working holiday visa agreement with Japan must have a university degree to obtain a Japanese work visa." -- it sounds like I need a degree afterall; unless there's some loophole I'm not aware of. |
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Post by sushi on Nov 10, 2009 11:18:36 GMT -5
It's a good thing Finland has decent unemployment benefits, because otherwise I'd be really depressed. And THAT, Ashurei, is the source of the Scandinavian people's power. |
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Post by AllenSmithee on Nov 10, 2009 13:36:48 GMT -5
Yeah, as far as I know, you DO need a degree ):
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Post by Ashurei on Nov 10, 2009 14:24:40 GMT -5
It's a good thing Finland has decent unemployment benefits, because otherwise I'd be really depressed. And THAT, Ashurei, is the source of the Scandinavian people's power. ;) Cross-thread conversation! :O!! I can finally rest and end my search. I thank you. :P |
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Post by Skeletore has a boner on Nov 10, 2009 15:23:29 GMT -5
Ouch. I thought only JET required a degree... that's kinda sucky. Sorry Unsavory, I didn't realize! -Tom It's not the programs that need the degree, it's the entire country. You can't get a working Visa without one. Countries with working holiday agreements: * Australiaother site * New Zealandother site * Canada other site * The Republic of Koreaother site * Franceother site * Germanyother site * The United Kingdomother site * Irelandother site * Denmarkother site * Japan Association of Working Holiday Makersother site |
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Post by tancients on Nov 10, 2009 16:42:06 GMT -5
A lot of countries work differently in that regard than America. Mostly because there are a lot of ways to get completely garbage degrees.
If you really want to go overseas, I know China will hire people to teach english with the only requirement being English as their first language.
And since my birth defect is affecting my hiring in the US (EoE is meaningless), I'm pretty sure they'd find something else as reason for exclusion. Can only hire so many people after all.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Nov 10, 2009 20:33:40 GMT -5
It's alright, Wyrd. You tried, and I thank you for that. In the end, I must put in some kind of effort. I wonder what kind of degree I should aim for, what courses I should take... I'm honestly at a loss, haha. Nothing business-y, political, legal (Ugh... I get pissed enough that legal terms aren't outlined in PLAIN English, but some fancy legal moonspeak that I just don't forsee myself comprehending anytime soon.), historical (World history is always depressing, as are the present and future.), geographical (I love Japan, but... everywhere else seems so... plain.), mathematical (Ugh... I only like math that I CAN do, like basic algebra and sometimes decimals.) or otherwise, anything you'd encounter in a typical high school classroom. Strangely enough, I don't have a lot of patience with English classes. Reading several massive books, writing long papers and using my imagination to concoct explanations of my own words is annoying. Wait, that's university work in general, though, isn't it? Amusing! As usual, I'm looking for an "easy" way -- which I'm sure doesn't exist. |
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Post by Ashurei on Nov 10, 2009 20:59:03 GMT -5
Easy translates to something you care about or something you're good at (the former moreso), when it comes to school, I think. Even if it requires output on your part, if it's something that you enjoy, you'll be willing to put in the extra effort and if it's something that comes naturally to you, well, then it won't require much effort! Case in point; I like what I'm studying, despite all the high level math and science tied to it, so I stick with it. I also find English/writing terribly simple; I've got no issues conveying thoughts and ideas eloquently through written word, so I don't really have to try in that class to get the better grades. Find something you have a passion for, dood! Or find something you can do easily. |
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I've been jobless for almost a year and I still don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do. It's a good thing Finland has decent unemployment benefits, because otherwise I'd be really depressed.
