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Post by Raison D'etritus on Mar 31, 2010 17:12:25 GMT -5
I'm curious about this advice now, as the rest of the advice you've been giving seems really sound and well thought-out. Feel free to corrupt me. -Tom [stroking a white cat] So eager to come to the dark side, young one? Much strength I sense in you. Yessss. The power is gooood. The fact that you completely disregarded my previous allusion to Faust makes me wonder just how pure you really are Wyrd! I'm not quite sure if you're being facetious/sarcastic or actually want the seed of corruption planted into your forehead in order to embrace the aura of darkness. (yessss, spread the corruption my child. Mwaahaaha) Read the Nietzschesque quote about becoming a monster to sate a human appetite again. And remember, "he who fights with monsters is sure to become one, when you gaze long into the abyss blah blah blah, do what thou wilt. Crush the weak and take what you want." -That's the Kaufman translation by the way. But in all seriousness, concocting a decent strategy would require more information on the vict---err... subject. I'd need to know if we're dealing with a knight, bishop, pawn, or rook, and even with that knowledge, not everybody can suit their own tactics to a situation like a queen. Hence the 40% margin of error I mentioned earlier. Even with my skills for political intrigue and interpersonal diplomacy, I don't always gauge correctly, and giving people strategies is useless if they lack the natural knack for employing them. You can tell a general to sound a cavalry charge to win success, but if his timing is off he can easily bungle the situation. I've actually watched people mess up perfect advice because of such a lack of finesse. And I can't really give any advice on reading people and developing perspicacity other than simply trying to be observant. I've only just recently learned (from a television show, of all things) that victims of child abuse tend to have a higher propensity for recognizing the vicissitudes of human behavior. For all my supposed cleverness this isn't a connection I'd made (and childhood trauma isn't exactly a route to self improvement I'd highly recommend. Nevermind the Nietzsche jokes).
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 31, 2010 18:56:22 GMT -5
She called back. She said she's not going to say yes or no, just play it by ear... I don't know how to read that.
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Post by Justin on Mar 31, 2010 19:23:13 GMT -5
Nice, she's fucking with your head now.
......dude.... just make sure you maintain respect for yourself. True love doesn't entail mind fucks like this.
Trust me, I've been dumped, and I've dumped many times. I guess you could call me a man whore, or whatever you need to. Stuff like this shouldn't be happening to you. If you think it's worth it, then keep going. Honestly, It ends up screwing your life up more than it should be. I've been there... I know.
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Post by Justin on Mar 31, 2010 19:45:14 GMT -5
Maggot, did you say you were serious about wanting her back?
~Yes~
Ok, then she should have gotten the fucking message.
~Yes~
Ok, then signal sent, package launched, SOS released.
~YES~
Is there anything else you could have said which would deviate her from knowing you're down-like-a-clown-charlie-brown?
~NO~
Roarsome!
Report back with good news.
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Mar 31, 2010 19:48:44 GMT -5
Congratulations! She's reasonably apprehensive right now, so don't push for an answer. Many women don't like to 'put titles' on things even when there isn't history involved. If you just act natural, be friendly, and try to move past it (almost like nothing happened yet not like it's 'no big deal') things'll probably fall back into their natural order. We're all happy for you.
And Wyrd, Faust in a nutshell: Guy sells soul to Mephistopheles (who incidentally looks a lot like me in most performances), gets beautiful woman, womans life turns to crap, dies tragically (it's a classic, what the hell do you expect?). Faust tries to do a bunch of good with help of Mephisto, everything goes wrong (duh, it's the friggin' devil! Seriously Faust!), and in the end his soul is saved by God, who more or less voids the contract through a godly trick. Deus ex Machina in the extreme.
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Post by Justin on Mar 31, 2010 19:57:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but what I'm saying is, if he broke off the engagement, and now suddenly says he wants to rekindle it, don't you think she might be at least a LITTLE suspicious that he's just going to break it off AGAIN? I mean, she needs to know he's not just bending and swaying to his every romantic whim, and seriously WANTS the engagement back on - and will CONTINUE to want the engagement back on. She needs reassurance. So yeah... Unsavory, be sure you give her the reassurance she needs! -Tom Well duh, he could blow up Canada for all she cares. If he told her he was serious, then he's serious. You can't fart your way though this man.
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Post by AllenSmithee on Mar 31, 2010 20:07:05 GMT -5
Woah, Faust sounds cool. A lot like the Kamelot album I've got, Epica.
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Post by Lenalia on Mar 31, 2010 20:36:03 GMT -5
Okay, this is going to sound like bad advice right now, but I'm going to give it anyway: Give her some space. If your first message promised you wouldn't harass her, then any further attempt at contact might be construed as harassment. Keep in mind that the typical female thinks a good deal differently than the typical male. While you expect an immediate, logical reply to your sentiment, she may need a chunk of time to think things over. Especially if her feelings are hurt from previous encounters (which does not seem unlikely in the least). Rather than having an immediate, emotional response to your message, she might have to contact every human being she's ever known to inquire as to what emotional response they advise appropriate to the circumstance. Then she might choose from the selection whatever suits her current mood best. This sounds completely insane, but it seems to be a popular trend in current society. So, I say give her room; let her think about things and don't do anything to give the impression that you're desperate for an answer. I know this sounds completely ludicrous at the moment, as the situation might as well be life or death -- so throw yourself into -ANOTHER- life or death situation! Every two minutes are going to seem an eternity, but she might need an eternity to judge whether or not to give you two minutes. If you hurt her in the past, then you can't be too upset if she isn't completely concerned with your immediate feelings. Occupy yourself with something else. Jump out of an airplane. Go hunting. Play Russian Roulette. Start a revolution. Whatever. Giv'er her some time to consider things. She's had weeks (??! my history is less than perfect on the subject. sorry.) to suffer the blow of losing you, so she might need as much time, or more, to contemplate letting you back in. And, most importantly: I wish you luck Friend. To be honest, I was thinking of advising something similar, but I don't know the other person involved, and I'm probably the last person in the world who should be giving relationship advice. Honestly, I wouldn't even pin this as a "male mind vs. female mind" thing -- just that he's putting himself really far out there, and it's really difficult not to be extremely anxious in that situation... meanwhile, her mind is probably spinning from everything that's gone on, and even if she had a gut reaction one way or another, it's not exactly a good idea to make big decisions on a whim, so it's certainly understandable that she'd want to wait a while for her emotions to get sorted out and to think everything through before deciding one way or another. If I were in a situation like this and a female were in Unsavory's position, I'd probably want to do the same -- and if there's any reason I wouldn't take the time, it'd either be out of guilt for how she's feeling or because I'd been thinking it out the whole time. Even then, I'm sure I'd want some time before I respond. I can hardly speak for half of the human race, though. And I don't exactly consider myself a typical guy. Unsavory: I'm glad that you heard back from her, at the very least. Even if she hasn't made up her mind one way or the other yet, that much is definitely a good sign.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Mar 31, 2010 22:30:15 GMT -5
Exactly; Wyrdwad has the right idea, as does raisondetritus and Bugen. I'm very glad to have such friends here. -- and Justin too, even if I disagree, I'm glad to have him as my friend here as well.
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Post by schlagwerk on Mar 31, 2010 22:34:57 GMT -5
Woah, Faust sounds cool. A lot like the Kamelot album I've got, Epica. Goethe's Faust is considered one of the greatest works of German literature. Admittedly I only learned of it through Herman Hesse's Steppenwolf. While I was traveling during the Christmas season last year, I was re-reading it. Meanwhile the person beside me was reading the whatever 2nd follow up to the Da Vinci Code. Guess whose book got more attention and random conversations with people...
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Post by tancients on Mar 31, 2010 22:53:39 GMT -5
I don't feel like making an april fool's topic, and this is kind of random, so....! Google Japan: Is the standard keyboard too limited for Japanese? buy the new keyboard! Includes special keys for kaomoji(emoticons)!
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Post by Varion on Mar 31, 2010 23:22:10 GMT -5
I want that keyboard. Here are my random contributions to the thread for today. Genuine gifs from Sonic 4, people.
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Post by Ashurei on Apr 1, 2010 1:25:48 GMT -5
...Looks great. ALSO: "Like, that's so funny he was just calling some bitches like, OH MY GOD!" Some trampy looking girl on the phone outside when I picked up Sakura Wars today. I lol'd because my friend just shared this video with me.
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Post by Incog Neato on Apr 1, 2010 4:47:06 GMT -5
I want just the emoticons. TT!
And yup. Action Replay DS doesn't work on the DSi XL. Not surprised at all given the different firmware.
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Post by Disgaeamad on Apr 1, 2010 8:40:57 GMT -5
"S'up Wyrdy, you totally got that job man. Baller!
Nah just kidding bro we're going under, enjoy finding another job."
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Post by Lunar on Apr 1, 2010 8:49:51 GMT -5
...Looks great. ALSO: "Like, that's so funny he was just calling some bitches like, OH MY GOD!" Some trampy looking girl on the phone outside when I picked up Sakura Wars today. I lol'd because my friend just shared this video with me. I believe this calls for Also the Ys CD was so popular that I was asked to do a followup. Which I have.
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Apr 1, 2010 11:57:52 GMT -5
I don't know if this constitutes an April Fools prank, but the timing is impeccable: I logged onto Netflix to move Wagner's Die Walkure to the top of my queue for viewing this weekend, and upon logging in was prompted with "the following films are no longer available and have been removed from your queue because we are fucking douchebags. Considering how often we mess with your anime selection you probably shouldn't be paying us a monthly fee." Okay, I paraphrased that just a tad, but that's what it MEANT to say. Anyway the list of items removed was ALL the Wagner selections in my queue. I found another rendition of Wagner: Die Walkure available, but it's average rating was 3 stars and people complain that the vocals/acting suck. Not to mention it's a "reimagining" (seriously, why the fuck can't anybody do things the way they were initially intended anymore?!) where Norse gods are dressed like 20th century lawyers or 19th century fops and hanging around set designs as silly as hydroelectric dams. ( !!!) I'm tempted to wish Netflix into the cornfield.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Apr 1, 2010 16:50:40 GMT -5
I'm done trying to "do things right" or "make everything better", as far as my family goes. I'm pretty sick of them trying to dictate how to live my life. It's about time I own my life, and sever my ties. I mean, it's only right; it's bad enough having one voice of reason (my own), but having more than that one is just madness.
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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Apr 1, 2010 19:16:42 GMT -5
Oh no, not at all. You guys have been great, thank you so much.
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Post by Lunar on Apr 2, 2010 16:32:22 GMT -5
So apparently the friend who I gave the CDs to co-hosts a game music themed show on our school's radio station and may be using them to do a special Ys themed episode
Very excited. I'll post the link to our stream here if this does happen!
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