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Post by yotaka on Aug 8, 2011 12:58:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah, speaking of classic games, anyone else follow the cellphone title Final Fantasy Legends? The last chapter just got released and it's probably due for a console port in a few months. It's heavily based on FFV's job system and seems to have been well recieved in Japan. Come on Squeenix, port that baby to something I can play it on and do the same for SD1 please. That was an incredible Gameboy title and like I said, I'd kill to play the prettied up cellphone remake on a DS to recreate the feel of the good old days with my gray brick.
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Post by Incog Neato on Aug 12, 2011 13:28:26 GMT -5
Wow. Square hate. D:
I only hate them for their iOS prices since I keep insisting that the average price for an iOS is no where near $10 US. And yet, they keep spewing out ports and new games that are greater than $10.
FFT iOS has some enhancements from the PSP version but given the fact that it's an iOS game, why the fuck are they charging $15.99 US? Cave, Capcom, Bamco, Konami -- EVERYONE ELSE -- doesn't charge premium prices for the games they port.
(Well, except Cave's DEATHSMILES. That thing is $11.99 US.)
I'm thinking it's probably because Squenix have too much staff, way too many gratutious luxuries in their offices, and just a lot of crap they waste money on so they have to make up for it somehow. Or maybe because they release games that last longer than 10 minutes? I dunno.
They should just have an entire price category devoted to them at the App Store.
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Post by Segata on Aug 12, 2011 14:29:16 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about ios or any form of DLC. I hate DLC with a fiery passion. Physical only.
It just bothers the shit out of me that, more than likely, we'll eventually reach a point where most of these games won't exist anymore. How shitty would it be to create great memories playing a game now, only to find that it's nigh-impossible to revisit it 20 years from now? Things like this need to be immortalized on a physical copy.
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Post by Yakra on Aug 14, 2011 13:47:21 GMT -5
FFT iOS has some enhancements from the PSP version but given the fact that it's an iOS game, why the fuck are they charging $15.99 US? Cave, Capcom, Bamco, Konami -- EVERYONE ELSE -- doesn't charge premium prices for the games they port. I'm kind of curious~ (*kicked for actually wondering about this when a nunuu is ranting about the prices~* X'D), what are the enhancements to this iOS version of FFT? :'D Any additions to the story or just random fixings of stuff like the summon spells mini lags and all? That aside though~ :'D I can't really bring myself to hate SE like... most of ye all? Just like any other company, they have good games, AND bad games. And while they may be terribly milky and all (like most companies), some of the nice stuff they have produced (or even published!) in the recent years - FFXII, FFXII: Revenant Wings, the Tactics Ogre remake, and stuffs like Radiata Stories and the Drakengards - have more than made up for it? Maybe they just seem so bad because they had some VERY lovely games before when they were pure Squaresoft and pure Enix, and everyone started putting too many expectations on them (unlike with smaller companies, on whom no one has any grand expectations, so, no one screams much for churning out one rubbish in a while?)? ....Or the fact that they started hyping their own games to the next kingdom, setting up too high a bar for their own self. And so, when they fall, they kind of fall hard. :'D ....But their games are not that bad at all. ^ ^; *kicked for declaring that* ....I rather like them loads. :'D So~ It's kind of sad to read they are going in a loss. Now hopefully that shall make them release FFXIII Versus quicker~!
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Aug 14, 2011 22:06:58 GMT -5
How many of their more recent games have you played? I admit FFXII was a great game (a big step up from X), despite the lack of any shade of character depth/development. . . which I admit is better than XIII's "I just realized my obligatory character flaw. Viola! I'm cured!" See Breuer, the talking cure DOES work! *kicked for nerdy references*
But many of their games (emphasized, highlighted, and punctuated by FFXIII) have been quite lackluster lately. Excepting their great remakes, most of their new titles, like Last Remant, Lord of Arcana, and the newest Star Ocean, have gotten largely mediocre receptions from long-time fans.
Don't get me wrong though, I really want to play Final Fantasy Type 0, Lord of Vermillion, and even Last Remnant. I just can't deny they've fallen quite a bit from producing all gold (FFXIII was copper at best. Probably aluminum. . . and it sets an ugly precedent)
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 15, 2011 0:00:02 GMT -5
The Last Remnant (PC version) is RPG gold, I love it and it's probably the only non-handheld/non-Chinese RPG from this era that I give two stuffs about :/ Good luck playing Lord of Vermillion Raison! Unless you've got the cash for a set of networked specialist arcade machines you're stuck just listening to the (very good) soundtracks like the rest of us
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Post by Rebel40000 on Aug 15, 2011 0:52:09 GMT -5
The only good franchise that SE has left IMO is Dragon Quest. And even then, they are too inept to properly handle it outside of Japan, which is why Nintendo has to pick up their slack and show them how it's done.
It's rather pathetic, really.
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Aug 15, 2011 5:35:43 GMT -5
Bad analogy. Gold has commonly accepted value. Last Remnant would be more like a rare artifact; it only has value among a select few! *kicked for analogical pedantry* *and again just for good measure* I do think it looks great though. Most of the reviews I've read said that the battle system is more generalized, non-specific rather than micro-managerial, so I can understand the popular opinion. But focus on large scale battles. . . well, I'm playing Langrisser. 'Nuff said. (although, even the best reviews say the story is flat out generic) Oh, and there are trainers and mods available which evidently make the PC version even better! I'm going to put it right between my Tsurugi and Sangokushi Taisen Ten arcades, and across from my Virtual On. I didn't say I'd be playing it anytime soon.
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Post by Yakra on Aug 15, 2011 8:55:07 GMT -5
How many of their more recent games have you played? I admit FFXII was a great game (a big step up from X), despite the lack of any shade of character depth/development. . . which I admit is better than XIII's "I just realized my obligatory character flaw. Viola! I'm cured!" See Breuer, the talking cure DOES work! *kicked for nerdy references* I... actually have played quite a few of their recent games...? :'D *disowned* ....Though, judging from my playing speeds, that probably doesn't mean much. X'D Because while I have grabbed the newer stuff like their FFIV (hundreth) remake for PSP, Star Ocean for PS3, 3rd Birthday and Dissidia 012, I still haven't found time to even touch them - and so discover just how 'ew' they be, simply because I just can't make myself stop playing Tactics Ogre: LUCT. X'D I'm not expecting something drastically bad though. :'D Perhaps I'm just easily pleased? :'D But, while I'm not saying all seem to be ultimate masterpieces, I have met none so far that I particularly want to chuck out of the window? Not even the much universally hated FFXIII. :'D It certainly is no FFXII - infact, after FFXII and the lovely non-dramatic characters in dramatic settings, I did have a mini-hard time swallowing the Nomura'd reactions of each character in FFXIII - but it's not that bad a game at all. Even though I still haven't found the time to finish it ( still slowly plodding along!) the story is enjoyable enough, and the battles fun. Certainly not the greatest game I've come across (X'D), but as a random game and a random story to read, I found it engaging enough? The same would apply for the earlier Dissidia? I wasn't too pleased with the idea of taking all the characters from the series and dumping them in a cheesy fanboy's (fangirl's?) world, but in the end, I actually found it.... addictingly fun. :'D Um.... basically, yep. I don't find them the complete game-'gold' that I found Squaresoft to be, but I find them to be VERY far from the complete game rubbish that most tend to declare them to be. I just find their worst games to be... medicore, and then some random ones super nice (Tactics Ogre!). Actually, those are the few I really want to play too. Especially Last Remnant! PC english version want~! *___*
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Aug 16, 2011 1:49:10 GMT -5
Tactics Ogre is actually a Quest game. I don't really feel comfortable assigning credit to Squeenix, no matter how jazzed up they made the port. Though I'll admit, if they fixed the leveling issues (as I've heard they did), I'd like to play it. I loved the game as much as I hated the 20 hours of training (and being slaughtered by any opponent 1 level stronger). --it's the most expensive game in my collection, so I'd really like to play more than just the law route and see more than just the *bad* ending. REGICIIIIIDE!! But yeah, I really don't think remakes of games from Square Golden Years should count toward Squeenix. That actually seems to be a distraction from the fact that their new games aren't up to par. honestly, I think it's the relative contrast that upsets so many fans. I admit, I actually finished FFXIII (though I know people who didn't), so it wasn't TERRIBLE. . . it just wasn't great, and it certainly isn't worth the replay I've given to almost every other Final Fantasy. It's that mediocrity tastes like just plain bad when you compare it to something great (take America's economy. Everyone whines about the recession, but we're still better off than EVERY third world nation). I think a large part of the current problem is that their games (stories included) have more of a "manufactured" feel to them these days. Like every aspect was thought up in a board room by marketing execs with no creative input from creative minds. Last Remnant PC english version Get!
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 16, 2011 7:36:56 GMT -5
I think you're right, but I don't think that problem is exclusive to Square-Enix. The industry has created its own issues I feel - games must be AAA Christmas number 1 or nothing, which means that everything has to cost millions of dollars and take years to do, which means that everything must be OK'd by the board before any money is spent.
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Aug 17, 2011 2:17:42 GMT -5
Precisely. They actually discussed on X-Play the other week that the video game industry was becoming identical to the movie industry. It's not a reassuring trend that games are costing more and more money, and so the people forking out the cash are becoming more and more controlling. . . and less likely to take risks. What we get is the Hollywood formula, with everything dumbed down and catered to the "general" audience, and with cliche happy endings that fit the common mold.
The fortunate duality is that the accessibility of programming software and the ease of downloadable publishing (which admittedly doesn't interest me, but I'm a minority) ensures that indie developers can still make great games with risky creativity outside the billion dollar market. Who knows, maybe someday the uroborous of avarice will choke to death on itself, and consumers will invest entirely in the growing undermarket. The big businesses are certainly walking the traditional path to stagnation, the result of which is always, invariably, either revolution or extinction. (and given gaming's influence on modern culture, I don't consider the latter a probability)
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Post by Segata on Aug 17, 2011 15:19:46 GMT -5
Xplay still exists & G4? Damn I would have hoped that joke of a network died by now. Xplay is an insult to gamers so is G4
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Post by SkyeWelse on Aug 18, 2011 17:20:21 GMT -5
Xplay still exists & G4? Damn I would have hoped that joke of a network died by now. Xplay is an insult to gamers so is G4 G4 has Ninja Warrior, and Attack of the Show, so they can stay around as long as they continue to show episodes of those. : ) But I COMPLETELY agree with your comment about X-Play. I used to watch it only because I wanted to see what sort of ridiculous and biased nonsensical reviews they would spout next. Even more irritating are the host and hostess and how "elite" they act as thought their opinions were the very voice of the entire gaming universe. Redonkeyoulous... -Thomas
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Post by Mutagene on Aug 18, 2011 23:17:40 GMT -5
Actually... Adam Sessler does know his stuff, and he's a pretty good person. He's just stuck doing the bidding of corporate executives.
Still, I remember when X-Play was still on TechTV--and was actually not only a reliable source, but an entertaining one, as well. But it's only gone downhill since G4 absorbed their "partner" and started replacing all the good shows and dumbing down the ones that survived the switch.
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Post by Segata on Aug 19, 2011 2:02:45 GMT -5
For gaming I only watch Happy Console Gamer & Classic Game Room. I loved Tech Tv back in the day but now Leo has his own network which has replaced tech tv for me live.twit.tv/
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Post by Raison D'etritus on Aug 19, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
You are aware that applies to just about every reviewer across any medium, right? Even the geeks that do Youtube reviews are harshly biased in an attempt at coming across as comical, and the sad majority of people in general think that their opinion is or should be the universal standard. Subjectivity=solipsism
In candid discussion, it really comes out that Morgan and Adam often don't even agree with their scripted reviews, and in truth, both are a fair degree more intelligent and educated than most game reviewers (which obviously can't come across from what's typed on a teleprompter)--they've actually dropped references on the show I expect maybe two or three people in the audience even got.
And while I agree that X-Play's reviews are as reliable as any magazine's (I recently used their review of Resonance of Fate as an example of biased western reviews in the Reviews thread) they do tend to have funnier (and more mature) writing than what magazines like GameInformer can conjure up *insert stupid meme into screenshot caption*, and truth be told. . . they still cover games. I wouldn't even KNOW about Skyrim, Deus Ex, Dragon's Dogma, Neverdead, or Kingdoms of Amalur if not for the show, so, far as I'm concerned, it serves its purpose.
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Post by Incog Neato on Aug 19, 2011 23:31:17 GMT -5
Who knows, maybe someday the uroborous of avarice will choke to death on itself, and consumers will invest entirely in the growing undermarket. With everyone become more and more tech savvy and more and more ignorant to copyrights and stuff like that, I can only imagine the sheer amount of people downloading and paying for piracy will only increase as the years go by. I mean, look at China! They don't care! They even bootleg Apple stores!! ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN CHINA. And if your city has a fairly large Chinese population or Chinatown, you can be sure you'll find some pirated things on sale at some stores there. :P yakra: I have no idea what the improvements are for FFT since I never bothered to read up on it. I'm so horrible at that game that I won't buy it again. :P Also, I have an unopened copy of The Last Remnant PC lying around ... (It's unopened since I pirated the game first and then liked it enough to actually buy it. :P Probably won't play it again though.) Oh hey, I also have the Ultimania for it too.
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Post by Kimimi on Aug 19, 2011 23:36:56 GMT -5
There was a proper Last Remnant Ultimania? Is it for the PC version or the 360 one? I've only seen the regular guide that covers the 360 version. :/
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Post by Incog Neato on Aug 19, 2011 23:39:07 GMT -5
There was a proper Last Remnant Ultimania? Is it for the PC version or the 360 one? I've only seen the regular guide that covers the 360 version. :/ 360. :|
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