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Post by Ascended Mermaid on Nov 26, 2009 3:17:42 GMT -5
People always think that this mantra of mine is a negative thing, but I really see it as a positive. When I say hope for the best, expect the worst, it's because when you do that, then if the best happens, you're overjoyed... but if the worst happens, you're NOT disappointed, because that's exactly what you were expecting! It's a mindset that's served me well in life. -Tom That's EXACTLY right! I wouldn't have called you my like-minded friend if you'd thought any differently.  It's just that my mindset was rather... "Walk on eggshells and don't turn your back for a second." ...I'd ignore the possibilities, good and bad, simply because I'd expect the worst. As such, I've changed from your mantra, to "Expect to be surprised."; you never know, good things CAN happen!  It took me a long time to open my eyes, but it couldn't have happened if I didn't have help getting there. That mental 'jab in the chest' saying "Look, there's something REALLY good in front of you. Are you blind, seriously? Go for it!"; sometimes opening our eyes and freeing our minds is the best thing we can do. Denial in the face of fear is exactly what it wants; progression is your ally, embrace it. |
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Post by HJ on Nov 26, 2009 3:52:12 GMT -5
I really don't see how RPGamer is jumping the gun more than Esterior. They're basically saying the same thing with different words. I mean, making agreements with NA publishers sounds synonymous with "planning to release games in NA" to me. Yeah I get what you're trying to say, it's just that I still don't agree. Look at this from Esterior: "2) It appears that Falcom's made agreements with a North American publisher of some sort. More details as I find them out." Well, looks like the mention of a ?? publisher is also made here. So there's still no reason to accuse RPGamer of anything you're not going to accuse Esterior off. I'm not saying we're guaranteed to get any NA-releases, either, I'm just saying RPGamer isn't jumping the gun more than Esterior, so what's with people acting like it? What I'm arguing has nothing to do with my personal belief about these Falcom games. I'm probably more of a cynic and pessimist than you, even, so be thankful for that.  |
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Post by knightofancient on Nov 27, 2009 12:42:50 GMT -5
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Post by jeffx on Nov 27, 2009 15:00:09 GMT -5
I posted this in the Felghana forums already but there isn't much traffic there anymore so... here I go again.
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Post by cxt217 on Nov 28, 2009 12:20:32 GMT -5
Yeah I get what you're trying to say, it's just that I still don't agree. Look at this from Esterior: "2) It appears that Falcom's made agreements with a North American publisher of some sort. More details as I find them out." Well, looks like the mention of a ?? publisher is also made here. So there's still no reason to accuse RPGamer of anything you're not going to accuse Esterior off. I'm not saying we're guaranteed to get any NA-releases, either, I'm just saying RPGamer isn't jumping the gun more than Esterior, so what's with people acting like it? We have to agree to disagree on this issue, then. I came down harder on RPGamer than Esterior because it was clear Floofy was drawing inferences from what Falcom stated, and careful ones. RPGamer made, as you noted, similar points to what Esterior said, but they were less clear about inferences versus what Falcom stated. It might very well be true that Falcom has chosen a publisher and ironing out the details with them, but nothing definitive has been stated beyond Falcom's IR, and I find it regrettable RPGamer took more out of the statement than was what in it. And other reports taking the ball and running with it also leaves much to be desired. As you said, that has absolutely nothing to do with the hope that Falcom games get released in the US - I am on that bandwagon, too. I would just be happier when reality matches expectation. C.T. |
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Post by Justin on Nov 28, 2009 13:02:44 GMT -5
Falcom games have come to NA before, and on numerous occasions. The floodgates weren't opened then, and I'm willing to bet they won't open now. What these past transgressions mean to me, is that we may see 2 or 3 PSP ports for games we already have.
Ether way, while the prospect of English in my Falcom sounds awesome, I'm still on the PC bandwagon.
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Post by HJ on Nov 28, 2009 13:23:46 GMT -5
Honestly, if it's in English, I'll take it regardless of which platform it's on. And if it's not in English, then I hardly even care. Not being able to understand the game is an unsurmountable detriment when it comes to the enjoyment I get out of games. No matter how good Ys 7 is, if I end up having to play through in Japanese, I can say with 100% certainty I'll never consider it anything special, it'll just be a "good game I played once," whereas if it's in English it might be "AMAZING AND MEMORABLE GAME <333" or something like that, I dunno.
It's a weird personal quirk, and a pretty annoying one too, but I can't seem to shake it. =/
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Post by Justin on Nov 28, 2009 13:41:13 GMT -5
I can understand that big time. I have a huge disconnect with Japanese games that I play, which is why I really appreciate good walkthrough faqs.
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Post by sushi on Nov 28, 2009 14:18:45 GMT -5
Seconded. |
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Post by sushi on Nov 30, 2009 17:27:32 GMT -5
Thread confusion!!! |
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Post by Justin on Nov 30, 2009 18:27:56 GMT -5
lmao, that's awesome. I'll repost somewhere else haha.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 16:19:18 GMT -5
Assuming Falcom is serious about this, they had BETTER advertise. Anyone ever see ads for Ys 6, Gurumin, or any of the three LoH games released here? I sure didn't ><.
That seems to be the ONE failing thing about localizing big Japanese games here. Look at Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G - didn't do all that well when brought here. I saw ONE ad, like, ever. They assume it'll do well here just because it did well in Japan. They seem unwilling to spend the money to advertise (other great games that fell prey to this? Growlanser, Yggdra Union, Rule of Rose, etc).
On a side note, I'm going to be scanning the jobs in the future. I now have a semi-official translating job, so I can put that down as a resume booster. Hopefully I could get in on localizing a Falcom game (all official like). That'd be AWESOME.
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Post by cxt217 on Dec 8, 2009 16:28:24 GMT -5
Assuming Falcom is serious about this, they had BETTER advertise. Anyone ever see ads for Ys 6, Gurumin, or any of the three LoH games released here? I sure didn't ><. That is not exactly Falcom's responsibility - the licensee is the one who determines it. So, if Konami, Mastiff, and Bandai are determining their advertising budgets, there is not a whole lot Falcom can do. And no, licensing contracts generally do not cover that. In fact, having a licensing contract cover advertising is generally a bad sign. Besides, only games that are expected to be big (Or have proven to be big.) in the US get noticeable publicity campaigns. But the Final Fantasy titles of the world are rare indeed - just take a look at the number of games Square-Enix has just dumped into the market without any fanfare at all... C.T. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 16:46:35 GMT -5
Assuming Falcom is serious about this, they had BETTER advertise. Anyone ever see ads for Ys 6, Gurumin, or any of the three LoH games released here? I sure didn't ><. That is not exactly Falcom's responsibility - the licensee is the one who determines it. So, if Konami, Mastiff, and Bandai are determining their advertising budgets, there is not a whole lot Falcom can do. And no, licensing contracts generally do not cover that. In fact, having a licensing contract cover advertising is generally a bad sign. Besides, only games that are expected to be big (Or have proven to be big.) in the US get noticeable publicity campaigns. But the Final Fantasy titles of the world are rare indeed - just take a look at the number of games Square-Enix has just dumped into the market without any fanfare at all... C.T. I thought Falcom was going to start trying to publish themselves over here... That was the big deal with this ><. Am I wrong? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 16:53:56 GMT -5
Oh alright. Thanks for clarifying! I'll read the IR myself later to see what I get from it lol. Either way, I'm definitely going to be looking for those translation jobs =P.
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Post by Varion on Dec 8, 2009 17:09:02 GMT -5
I really think the in-house thing is wishful thinking on your part, wyrdy.
現地パブリッシャーと提携し、更なる販売強化を推し進めます。
"We intend to continue strengthening our sales through a partnership with a local publisher [in the US]"
I mean sure you can argue that the publisher will just do the publishing but... it just doesn't seem so likely to me.
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Post by Varion on Dec 8, 2009 17:14:47 GMT -5
Haha, it's okay, I understand - it would one of the most enjoyable jobs in the world short of obvious answers like 'bed tester' for me too. But getting unnecessarily excited just leads to disappointment later down the line!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 14:31:39 GMT -5
Well, you might have some competition from me. But that's only if I get off my lazy butt and start applying for them! -Tom Well if one of us gets it, we should totally prod management to get the other on board =P. I dunno what your history is. I now (finally) have my first semi-official translation gig payed on a monthly basis (translating lyrics and simple stuff for a website). I'm also going to be completing my Japanese major at University of Maryland College Park soon ><. But it sounds like since you've lived in Japan and taught English there, you have a strong resume too! Hopefully I'll be going there semester after next for a nice 6 months or so abroad <3. I am nearing like... Fluency almost and have read a lot of the Japanese classics, but I've never actually been to the country. It's prolly all a conspiracy I tell you. Have I ever actually BEEN to Japan? No. So how am I SURE it exists? =P. I'll go there and do something crazy and unexpected (go into some random room) and end up in the lot of a TV studio I tell you. I have, however, been to Canada. It's pretty. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 15:02:17 GMT -5
Your Japanese is probably better than mine, if you've been reading Japanese classics. My specialty really lies more in being able to convert Japanese to good, natural-sounding English. I rely heavily on dictionaries and such, but I'd like to think I'm pretty good at what I do, even though I've never done it professionally like you. Either way, I guess we are RAIBARU!! But probably not, really.  -Tom Hehe. Well classics being more the famous short stories rather than like... Genji lol. I tried reading that and I just went "... Yeah I'll come back to this in a couple years ><." That book is so incredibly vague with so many long, complex sentencesssssssss. I've read the translation though, which I can't fathom does it any justice, and it's quite good (yes - I read the whole stupid 2200 page thing ><). edit: Want some REALLY great higher level Japanese practice? If you have an iPod/iPhone download i文庫 - it's AMAZING. Lets you download ALL of these short stories and novels for free! edit 2: In actiooonn www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHNKEz8jfI0&feature=player_embedded |
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Post by syraxis on Dec 16, 2009 23:26:31 GMT -5
Looks like 2010 is going to be an interesting year.
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It's just that my mindset was rather... "Walk on eggshells and don't turn your back for a second." ...I'd ignore the possibilities, good and bad, simply because I'd expect the worst. As such, I've changed from your mantra, to "Expect to be surprised."; you never know, good things CAN happen! 
It took me a long time to open my eyes, but it couldn't have happened if I didn't have help getting there. That mental 'jab in the chest' saying "Look, there's something REALLY good in front of you. Are you blind, seriously? Go for it!"; sometimes opening our eyes and freeing our minds is the best thing we can do. Denial in the face of fear is exactly what it wants; progression is your ally, embrace it.
